Sharks are blowing all their chances

Pietrangelo is 24, OEL is 22. It's just potentially another half decade of having a #1 dman. I just think if we're trading Giroux, we need to maximize return, because we can.
- JAKEw1234

Dude we are not trading Giroux....

And #1 center > #1 Dman

How were the blues, yotes, and preds years?

WHo cares guys really. Team has fight, team has heart. We all knew they werent cup contenders. they are in better draft position. Now enjoy the rest of the playoffs. Go Bruins and lets root for Meszaros!!
- Just5

......and Lucic. Both former Vancouver Giants. My junior team.

Sharks are blowing all their chances
- eayost

Yup. That stuff usually comes back to haunt you.

Dude we are not trading Giroux....

And #1 center > #1 Dman

How were the blues, yotes, and preds years?
- Just5

I know we're not, just discussing the possibility. The Blues had an awesome year but got an unlucky first round matchup. And David Backes is a #1 center. The Yotes and Preds still couldn't match our center depth even if we traded Giroux.

oh i totally understand why. it was borderline fiscal lunacy. but good for them as a franchise for standing up to the big guy and keeping the only franchise player theyve ever had.

i totally understand being bummed as a flyers fan. but bummed and arrogantly expectant are different to me.

knowing what you know now. going into next season. would you offer coots, schenn, a first, and another asset for him?
- stayinthefnnet

I would.

Giroux-VL-Laughton would be fine down the middle for the time being.

I know we're not, just discussing the possibility. The Blues had an awesome year but got an unlucky first round matchup. And David Backes is a #1 center. The Yotes and Preds still couldn't match our center depth even if we traded Giroux.
- JAKEw1234

Backes is a #1 center like Coburns a #1 dman.

Blues cant pony up when the chips are on the table.

This series has done nothing to think Giroux cant be a leader of men.

(frank)ing guy is a stud

Avs are gonna be a fun team to watch for a while. They got the goalie, a coach and a few young studs. Everything the Oilers were supposed to be by now.

Backes is a #1 center like Coburns a #1 dman.

Blues cant pony up when the chips are on the table.

This series has done nothing to think Giroux cant be a leader of men.

(frank)ing guy is a stud
- Just5

Thank you for this.

Backes is a #1 center like Coburns a #1 dman.

Blues cant pony up when the chips are on the table.

This series has done nothing to think Giroux cant be a leader of men.

(frank)ing guy is a stud
- Just5

We all know he's a stud. We all love him. We all (should by now) know he can lead the team. We're just discussing the possibility.

I don't think Akeson figured into most people's plans, but now you have to figure he is now a strong shot to stick with the team.

I'm pissed they lost and that they really didn't pal a great series, but after the start things could have been worse.

Have to feel good about Mason. Still think G needs to be a better leader.
- LJF

I know there's a lot of disappointment here, and believe me, it hurts me too, but despite the ups and downs, I'm proud of the Flyers. They pushed the Rangers to the brink at MSG and very well could have taken this series. I mean, losing 2-1 in game 7, it's such a fine line...if one more of those many chances they generated in the of the 3rd goes past Lundqvist to tie it, they could have taken them down. I wonder, if they had, would these people still be talking about ripping up the team and firing Holmgren etc.? It doesn't make sense to me.

I've said this before, the Flyers window to Stanley Cup contention is set to open wider as things progress over the next several years. They just aren't ready yet...there are a number of promising players that have played 200 games or less and are not yet fully developed...B Schenn, Read, Couturier, Raffl, Akeson...these guys should continue to blossom over this period and be able to contribute more and be more consistent, adding to what we get from guys just
entering their prime years like Simmer, G and Voracek. That's eight solid young players, each with varying degrees of room left to improve their games as they get more experience (like the one they just went through). And don't forget about forward prospects like Laughton, Leier, McGinn, Cousins...one or two of them are probably going to make an impact in the next couple of years.

You have a goaltender in Mason who is proving to be the #1 we've needed for a long time and a prospect in Stolarz who is regarded as one of the best goalies in Jr hockey. This is huge and Homer deserves credit.

The D has been a challenge but it's not the complete crapshow that some would have you think. When the forwards play good team D and the guys skate, the D is capable of playing well against most opponents...having said that, with Timonen continuing to decline with age, and no clear #1 to take the reins, it's still a potential area of need. The good news is that Homer and Co. have focused a bit more on D prospects in recent drafts and picked up a guy who looks like a real gem and potential offensive catalyst in Ghost and a formidable presence who is a bit of wildcard in Morin. One or both of these guys could quite possibly be joning the big club in the next 6 to 18 months, not to mention guys like Hagg and Alt or maybe Lauridsen can break through. Gusty might still be in the mix after a decent showing in the playoffs. . A trade for or signing of a top tier two-way D man would be nice, if the price isn't too crazy but even if that deal cannot be found, the Flyers seem to have the makings of a pretty good defensive corps going forward.

I think, for all the heat he takes, Homer has done a pretty good job of assembling talent from a variety of sources..the draft (Couturier, G, Morin, Ghost, Stolarz, Laughton,), trades (Couturier, Schenns, Simmer, Voracek, Grossmann, Mason, Coburn, MacDonald) signings (Read, Raffl, Akeson, Streit, and hey how bout that VLC? --jury is still out on him imo). Homer hasn't been perfect, but he's been aggressive and opportunistic at times, like taking a chance on the Pronger deal that got us to game 6 of the SCF's, and then, shifting gears and re-infusing the team young talent with the Carter aand Richards deals...he's owned up to mistakes (thank you buyouts!) and in the past couple of seasons, has managed to build a good team with a pretty promising future while exercising patience and prudence in terms of not dealing away much in terms of young talent and picks. I see what he's been doing, and I'm on board with it.

I'm proud of the way the Flyers showed resilience and fortitude in coming out of an early hole to make the playoffs this season and then giving their nemesis the Rangers all they could handle in the series..

I'm pretty optimistic about the team's chances to go on a deep run or two over the next 5 years or so. Lots of the younger players took significant steps in their development this season and many learned lessons that should pay dividends going forward, including G learning what it takes to lead as captain. I don't want major changes. I want to see the team stay the course, develop their young players and prospects...draft well and only look to make a deal if one can put them over the top or truly complement what they have put together.

Backes is a #1 center like Coburns a #1 dman.

Blues cant pony up when the chips are on the table.

This series has done nothing to think Giroux cant be a leader of men.

(frank)ing guy is a stud
- Just5

agree on all counts. crosby and giroux are going to be going at it for the next 8 years. hes earned it as his team. im just glad you guys finally have to start paying him at a superstar rate.


and god. i say it enough. but its just getting more and more true. anze. (frank)ing. kopitar.

After 4 PPs of not scoring, I wouldn't be wild about this game as a Sharks fan. Not to mention the goal Kopitar just scored. If they don't get one before the 3rd, a lot of doubt to creep in during the intermission

After 4 PPs of not scoring, I wouldn't be wild about this game as a Sharks fan. Not to mention the goal Kopitar just scored. If they don't get one before the 3rd, a lot of doubt to creep in during the intermission
- eayost

Kopitar just gave Niemi a groin pull.

I would.

Giroux-VL-Laughton would be fine down the middle for the time being.
- moylander

VL

What are we going to do with Prima Donna?

Why Holmgren? Why?

Sharks might actually blow this... rough night for 2real

Exlund I think that is a very solid post.

Outlines a lot of the good, and "optimistic good" Holmgren has done.

However, there is a lot of negative to counter that as well. Its not so intensely one sided.

Toward my view as well, and I can admit that.

Exlund I think that is a very solid post.

Outlines a lot of the good, and "optimistic good" Holmgren has done.

However, there is a lot of negative to counter that as well. Its not so intensely one sided.

Toward my view as well, and I can admit that.
- flyer_nutter

Was too long for me to read at this hour. I'll trust your judgement Nutbar.

VL

What are we going to do with Prima Donna?

Why Holmgren? Why?
- Just5

I'm going to try and be optimistic about VL40 and assume he never fully recovered from the injury, and will have a good 2nd season here. There is a lot of precedence over the years of free agent acquisitions not having good first years with new teams, but turning it around later.

Because if that doesn't happen, I don't know what to think.

Was too long for me to read at this hour. I'll trust your judgement Nutbar.
- rockychocbill

Not sure you should.

The last few headless chicken years have moved me away from that energetic, generally optimistic view of them.

I will admit that all day long.

"@FarhanLaljiTSN: BREAKING - John Tortorella will be fired by #canucks tomorrow"

"@FarhanLaljiTSN: BREAKING - John Tortorella will be fired by #canucks tomorrow"
- eayost

I will laugh if they bring in Trotz.

Completely wrong coach for the talent they have on hand.

I'm going to try and be optimistic about VL40 and assume he never fully recovered from the injury, and will have a good 2nd season here. There is a lot of precedence over the years of free agent acquisitions not having good first years with new teams, but turning it around later.

Because if that doesn't happen, I don't know what to think.
- eayost

Dudes gotta be injured right...back surgery?? He was brutal.

Cant wait for Ghost. Hes a flyer.

I will laugh if they bring in Trotz.

Completely wrong coach for the talent they have on hand.
- flyer_nutter

Berube isn't going anywhere this summer.

Wonder if Tortorella has finally worn our his welcome around the league. I'm curious to see if anyone hires him or he ends up in the KHL

"@FarhanLaljiTSN: BREAKING - John Tortorella will be fired by #canucks tomorrow"
- eayost

5 year 10 million dollar contract, well spent