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- eayost

Giroux for weber
- JoeRussomanno

Makes sense.

When the Flyers lose next year in the playoffs, Shea Weber is a larger man and presents a larger target for our desires to pin failure on one player. After all, Giroux is just a little guy.

/eye roll

jesus they figured out how to create a family friendly environment
- 2Real

I'm a bit negative tonight. It happens

Giroux for Weber

- watsonnostaw

As bat poop insane as that sounds on the surface, it makes some sense when you think about it. We've got young centers coming in that are gonna need minutes. Coots can take 19-20 mins a night as it is. BSchenn can eat 15-16. Laughton is gonna end up taking around that, and Vinny would still take that extra 10 minutes easily and would probably need more. It would leave an offensive gap that might invite some young players to step up like Giroux did originally when Richie and Carter were traded. If I'm not mistaken G's NMC hasn't gone into effect yet. Maybe it's an option that should be explored.

Allright going to bed... God Bless america, and giroux for weber!
- JoeRussomanno

Sweet dreams Joe.

Honestly - I would hate to pull the trigger on that but in the end I would. weber is less of a cap hit and fills a much more difficult role to fill imo. both are studs.
- moylander

You do have to look at it, but in the end, I would pass...reluctantly. Painfully. Agonizingly.

Because Giroux is younger, and you just have to believe that what you have drafted gets you where you need to go

I wonder if Homer lies awake in bed staring at the ceiling with the thought "how the hell did they match the 27 million? I should have made it X."
- the deaninator

i wonder if parting with either one of coots or schenn wouldve done it in the package.

As bat poop insane as that sounds on the surface, it makes some sense when you think about it. We've got young centers coming in that are gonna need minutes. Coots can take 19-20 mins a night as it is. BSchenn can eat 15-16. Laughton is gonna end up taking around that, and Vinny would still take that extra 10 minutes easily and would probably need more. It would leave an offensive gap that might invite some young players to step up like Giroux did originally when Richie and Carter were traded. If I'm not mistaken G's NMC hasn't gone into effect yet. Maybe it's an option that should be explored.
- JAKEw1234

None of them are #1 centers though. I don't think other teams would have to respect the Flyers down the middle at that point. They need to get the #1 Dman while keeping the #1 center IMO.

Makes sense.

When the Flyers lose next year in the playoffs, Shea Weber is a larger man and presents a larger target for our desires to pin failure on one player. After all, Giroux is just a little guy.

/eye roll
- johndewar

the last home grown defenseman to play significant years for the flyers was Chris Therien, the Flyers have to trade for such players on defense (and goal)

cost good players or assets to get defensemen of that caliber

i wonder if parting with either one of coots or schenn wouldve done it in the package.
- stayinthefnnet

everything reported was nashville wanted one/both of them in a deal.

Homer (supposedly) had the upper hand in that he didn't have to deal with them, and the contract was supposed to be a poison pill nashville could never afford.

well taleast now the philly media can concentrate on the eagles draft in a week....zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I wonder if Homer lies awake in bed staring at the ceiling with the thought "how the hell did they match the 68 million? I should have made it X."
- the deaninator

If he's lucky he'll have his Ray Bourque moment in about 10 years or so.

everything reported was nashville wanted one/both of them in a deal.

Homer (supposedly) had the upper hand in that he didn't have to deal with them, and the contract was supposed to be a poison pill nashville could never afford.
- the deaninator

if it was both i could see, but if it was just one, hes foolish for thinking he was just gonna strongarm his way into it.

not to ruffle feathers, but seeing everyones WE GOT HIM WE GOT HIM, become HOW DARE THEY MATCH was hilarious.

as much as i dont like attempting to poach another teams player, those are the rules and homer was acting within the rules to do the best for his team. cant fault him at all for that. but the whole how dare nashville match who do they think they are attitude really stunk.

None of them are #1 centers though. I don't think other teams would have to respect the Flyers down the middle at that point. They need to get the #1 Dman while keeping the #1 center IMO.
- eayost

That's reasonable. I think we'd still be really deep down the middle, depending on BSchenn and Coot's growth. If Coots got an expanded offensive role because of the loss of Giroux he could definitely be a 20 goal scorer or more. My concern is trading Giroux for a player older than Giroux. Weber will be effective into his late 30s, but if we're trading the life and heart of our team, we shouldnt have to compromise. We should take someone more around the age of Coots and BSchenn, so our core can match itself age wise. Someone more like OEL or Pietrangelo, who are both like younger Webers if only slightly less.

if it was both i could see, but if it was just one, hes foolish for thinking he was just gonna strongarm his way into it.

not to ruffle feathers, but seeing everyones WE GOT HIM WE GOT HIM, become HOW DARE THEY MATCH was hilarious.

as much as i dont like attempting to poach another teams player, those are the rules and homer was acting within the rules to do the best for his team. cant fault him at all for that. but the whole how dare nashville match who do they think they are attitude really stunk.
- stayinthefnnet

I think it was more because his contract's first year value alone equaled nashville's entire year's worth of ticket sales, it was crazy that nashville would risk working farther in the red than they already were/are

That's reasonable. I think we'd still be really deep down the middle, depending on BSchenn and Coot's growth. If Coots got an expanded offensive role because of the loss of Giroux he could definitely be a 20 goal scorer or more. My concern is trading Giroux for a player older than Giroux. Weber will be effective into his late 30s, but if we're trading the life and heart of our team, we shouldnt have to compromise. We should take someone more around the age of Coots and BSchenn, so our core can match itself age wise. Someone more like OEL or Pietrangelo, who are both like younger Webers if only slightly less.
- JAKEw1234

giroux is 27 next season. weber 29. as far as Dmen go weber is still quite young.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Can coburn,b. schenn, and their no. 1 get them into the top 10?

WHo cares guys really. Team has fight, team has heart. We all knew they werent cup contenders. they are in better draft position. Now enjoy the rest of the playoffs. Go Bruins and lets root for Meszaros!!

I think it was more because his contract's first year value alone equaled nashville's entire year's worth of ticket sales, it was crazy that nashville would risk working farther in the red than they already were/are
- the deaninator

oh i totally understand why. it was borderline fiscal lunacy. but good for them as a franchise for standing up to the big guy and keeping the only franchise player theyve ever had.

i totally understand being bummed as a flyers fan. but bummed and arrogantly expectant are different to me.

knowing what you know now. going into next season. would you offer coots, schenn, a first, and another asset for him?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
- watsonnostaw

Thought the Lecavalier signing was new beginnings

giroux is 27 next season. weber 29. as far as Dmen go weber is still quite young.
- moylander

Pietrangelo is 24, OEL is 22. It's just potentially another half decade of having a #1 dman. I just think if we're trading Giroux, we need to maximize return, because we can.

giroux is 27 next season. weber 29. as far as Dmen go weber is still quite young.
- moylander

giroux is still right in the groove of his prime. but yeah. i expect weber to be that chara type. still kicking ass at 34, 35.

when is Paul Holmgrens contract up?

Can coburn,b. schenn, and their no. 1 get them into the top 10?
- the deaninator

Yes easily, but why would you?