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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 30 @ 10:32 PM ET
Hartnell 3 points +/- 0
Schenn 3 points +/- -2

Coburn had a TERRIBLE series. So bad that i really would trade him. If a team can't complete a pass, is that on the coach or the players alone?

- Flyersgod


Coburn was fine. He was getting tasked with too much down the stretch, mainly because Timonen wasnt Timonen anymore.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 30 @ 10:32 PM ET
When I was watching Dallas this playoffs I wondered what Giroux would be able to do with Jamie Benn...
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Apr 30 @ 10:32 PM ET
Coots line was pretty useless.
- Flyersgod

That's why the only goal tonight was scored by them
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 30 @ 10:33 PM ET
he looked pretty bad on the phantoms 2 games and a -2
- watsonnostaw


you watched?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 30 @ 10:33 PM ET
I thought Streit was the best dman in this series, and really the best dman all year long. Its going to be an interesting summer
- Just5


Yeah he may have been.

Coburn was terrible this series. And honestly, who pays their top pairing dman 4.5mil a year to not put up points? Or play powerplay?

Coburn had such a rocket of a shot when he first got here. Then he was turned into Derian Hatcher.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:33 PM ET
That's why the only goal tonight was scored by them
- fecondo

And Read and Cooter on the PK were dominant. 21 straight kills or whatever.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 30 @ 10:33 PM ET
More than Crosby.
- fecondo


Curse you and your facts
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 30 @ 10:34 PM ET
That's why the only goal tonight was scored by them
- fecondo


We lost tonight though.... so.....
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Apr 30 @ 10:34 PM ET
Meh, Richards and St.Louis each had 2G 4A same as Giroux. Nash less than that.

If you don't want Giroux, who do you want? Thornton? Marleau? can't have a Toews on every team. Giroux is closer to Toews than he is to 3/4 of the other captains in the league.

- rockychocbill

+1
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Apr 30 @ 10:34 PM ET
most of the time he and coburn were being pinned down in their zone.
- the deaninator


Yeah, maybe not the best pairing anymore. Although have had their fair share of good moments in the past. I'm not gonna rag on either of them.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 30 @ 10:34 PM ET
Meh, Richards and St.Louis each had 2G 4A same as Giroux. Nash less than that.

If you don't want Giroux, who do you want? Thornton? Marleau? can't have a Toews on every team. Giroux is closer to Toews than he is to 3/4 of the other captains in the league.

- rockychocbill


All those guys have another top player on their team that takes pressure off the other. Voracek is nice, but you're talking about Thornton/Marleau, Crosby/Malkin, Toews/Kane, Benn/Seguin, etc... Jake would be the weakest link there.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 30 @ 10:34 PM ET
Does Brayden get a pass on this series? 0G, 3A. That's not good enough from your 2nd line center is it?
- rockychocbill


not at all. he should have been better.

i liked this series bc the rangers really uncovered the stink on this team.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
Well I will be rooting for the rags over the pens. Just can't get past Crysby, Malikin, Neal, and bat face, oh and flower. Man I hate that team.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
All those guys have another top player on their team that takes pressure off the other. Voracek is nice, but you're talking about Thornton/Marleau, Crosby/Malkin, Toews/Kane, Benn/Seguin, etc... Jake would be the weakest link there.
- eayost


Uh dude... B. Schenn
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
When I was watching Dallas this playoffs I wondered what Giroux would be able to do with Jamie Benn...
- eayost



Giroux for trevor daley, valeri nichushkin and 2 firsts
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
All those guys have another top player on their team that takes pressure off the other. Voracek is nice, but you're talking about Thornton/Marleau, Crosby/Malkin, Toews/Kane, Benn/Seguin, etc... Jake would be the weakest link there.
- eayost


Funny he outplayed Giroux.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 30 @ 10:35 PM ET
Ghost is gonna bring it. I'm very excited about him
- eayost


ghost is a flyer next year on merit book it
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
Uh dude... B. Schenn
- Flyersgod


Is B Schenn the 2nd best forward not he team?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 30 @ 10:36 PM ET
not at all. he should have been better.

i liked this series bc the rangers really uncovered the stink on this team.

- Just5


I wanted them to win, but i really feared if they won they'd think they deserved it and not change anything. Winning this series would have set us back.

Turns out losing this series exposed way too many flaws then i was ready to deal with.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
ghost is a flyer next year on merit book it
- Just5

nope, handful games but mainly a phantom
Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
not at all. he should have been better.

i liked this series bc the rangers really uncovered the stink on this team.

- Just5

Very we'll put. And very true
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 30 @ 10:37 PM ET
Is B Schenn the 2nd best forward not he team?
- eayost


Won't matter. Unless he signs for cheap i think he's as good as gone.

This series couldn't have helped him at all in negotiations.
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Apr 30 @ 10:38 PM ET
We lost tonight though.... so.....
- Flyersgod

Did Crosby step up in the last penguins game? No. Malkin did, in fact he scored a hatty, and they still almost blew that game.

Giroux created 3 awesome chances out of nothing, in the third period alone. Sometimes you need secondary scoring to show up. They didn't do a good enough job of getting 2nd chance opportunities, there were rebounds galore all series long.

But you're right, they lost and he's useless and logic and observations are (frank)ing pointless.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 30 @ 10:38 PM ET
I'm starting to worry that because Couturier is constantly matched up against other teams top lines, and the fact he's asked to be the teams top PK forward it's going to stunt his offense.

He had zero points in the series.

- PLindbergh31

He's a 21 year old 40 point scorer who's doing nothing but growing. I wouldn't worry about it.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Apr 30 @ 10:39 PM ET
I wanted them to win, but i really feared if they won they'd think they deserved it and not change anything. Winning this series would have set us back.

Turns out losing this series exposed way too many flaws then i was ready to deal with.

- Flyersgod


They went 7 games against the best goalie in the league, with the offense sputtering. There was no "exposing". If they took this series in 7, they would've moved on to their favorable matchup, the Pens.

The only thing an early exit does is inspires Snider to force Homer's hand in FA. Look for the Flyers to target a power forward and overpay. Winning wouldn't have stunted anything with this org...
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