i rarely throw out deals, but would leafs fans do:

kadri and franson for b schenn and l schenn. I would. Never happen, just conversation / stirring the pot
- clark_griswold

Hell no!
Luke Schenn is barely an NHL dman, an absolute horrible first round draft pick.

that was a joke?

thought it was just a slight at HH


- Dozzer

Yeah eh. A Colin head scratcher.

vanek on the 2nd line with Kadri and Lupul would have helped a little.. since clarkson wouldnt be there

I am glad no moves were made thought.. nothing would have helped much at all
- senstroll

he would have done nothing to help defensively.

facebook suggested i read curious george yesterday.. so yeah.. i guess so
- Dozzer

You are the man in the yellow hat.

personally i do not like Nonis as a GM. i see absolutely no rhyme or reason to what he does, almost like he makes it up as he goes. that said, i think right now, he's GM the way Sherman is GM in Colorado. i don't think he can take a piss without Shanahan's approval right now.
- DoubleDown

We'll see soon how that goes; I just hope that its not a case of "too many cooks"...

You are the man in the yellow hat.
- honesthockey

and i thought i was the monkey

Hell no!
Luke Schenn is barely an NHL dman, an absolute horrible first round draft pick.
- Fakepartofme

... But he was a wonderful bargaining chip

1m for a healthy guy who potted 45 points? You take that any day of the week!
- lumlums

Exactly.
Good signing.
Nonis errors were signing Clarkson, extending Pa-neuf and including a 2nd for Holland.

Hell no!
Luke Schenn is barely an NHL dman, an absolute horrible first round draft pick.
- Fakepartofme

he's a brutal #5 overall true, but he's an NHL dman for sure. and Brayden isn't the offensive player Kadri is but he's far more rounded and tough. i agree with griswold. that's a solid deal for TO.

... But he was a wonderful bargaining chip
- lumlums

I agree, he somehow got us JVR (haha philly), but fack what a pylon he is.

You had said the deadline inaction, so I was going off that
- lumlums

Right so why does the player have to be available? Or at least to the public available. Make a hockey trade. It's your last chance. Just bc TSN doesn't have the player on their radar doesn't mean he's not available for the right price.

Hell no!
Luke Schenn is barely an NHL dman, an absolute horrible first round draft pick.
- Fakepartofme

which got us JVR

so he was a good pick actually

and i thought i was the monkey
- Dozzer

Hell no he was the smart one

Exactly.
Good signing.
Nonis errors were signing Clarkson, extending Pa-neuf and including a 2nd for Holland.
- Fakepartofme

Yeah, that Clarkson deal has really been the cause of most of the issues. The rest I can accept (not like!), but that Clarkson deal looks to be a stinker right now...

I think Luke would have done well with Carlyle I think that is one guy who could have learned from Randy as he is a protypical defensive first guy. Having said that I take JVR over Luke ten out of ten. JVR has improved greatly here since his Philly days and no reason he wont continue to get better.
- Yeti1181

agreed. was looking forward to see Schenn playing under Carlyle.

But I take JVR any day.

Right so why does the player have to be available? Or at least to the public available. Make a hockey trade. It's your last chance. Just bc TSN doesn't have the player on their radar doesn't mean he's not available for the right price.
- honesthockey

Of course; you are still dodging the question of who you would have targeted

Hell no he was the smart one
- honesthockey

touche

Yeah, that Clarkson deal has really been the cause of most of the issues. The rest I can accept (not like!), but that Clarkson deal looks to be a stinker right now...
- lumlums

Give it one more year. If he's this bad again then I'll start the get him outta here fan club

he's a brutal #5 overall true, but he's an NHL dman for sure. and Brayden isn't the offensive player Kadri is but he's far more rounded and tough. i agree with griswold. that's a solid deal for TO.
- DoubleDown

Ya I exaggerated a bit. He's a 6th maybe 5th dman. Either way, he makes our D worse. But I agree Brayden doesnt have the hands that Kadri has, but he is a much more rounded player as of now.
I still wouldnt do the trade.

Of course; you are still dodging the question of who you would have targeted
- lumlums

Where did you ask me that? Throw me out who you think are the top 5 defensive defensemen and I'll tell you what I'd have done.

agreed. was looking forward to see Schenn playing under Carlyle.

But I take JVR any day.
- Feeling Glucky?

Luke Schenn did play under Carlyle.. the year Wilson was fired.. Schenn was traded the following summer

agreed. was looking forward to see Schenn playing under Carlyle.

But I take JVR any day.
- Feeling Glucky?

Our defense was bad enough this year....didnt need to make it worse by having Schenn in the line up.

which got us JVR

so he was a good pick actually
- Dozzer

that was ridiculous. i see why Philly traded JVR. he doesn't seem to fit the mold of their top 6 guys. but they should have been able to get way more than Schenn.

Where did you ask me that?
- honesthockey

About an hour/hour and a half ago.


Okay, clean slate; who would you have targeted?

I don't think it woulda. All three players going to the same spot on the ice with no one getting dirty. Woulda been a complete failure like Kadri with Kessel and JVR. All playing the same game.
- honesthockey

no way to know.. but i think its safe to say a Vanek-Kadri-Lupul line would score more than one with clarkson.

RC leaned far too much on Kessel ... having a second dangerous line would have helped. Clarkson just killed any offense.