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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 29 @ 8:20 PM ET
Neither team played really well.
Flyers have some good bursts, Rangers have good chances.
Couturier played a really bad period with two horrible turnovers.
Macdonald and Coburn with some bad plays.

Happy they are up 1-0 but not happy with how they played.
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 29 @ 8:21 PM ET
How have they been taking more chances? And they spent a lot of time, far too much time hemmed into their own zone. The breakout execution is again poor, and it doesn't have anything to do with Holmgren.
- MJL


they miss passes to wide open guys more than I have ever seen a team do this. all turn into turnovers or icings when it would otherwise be a routine break out and the puck in the rags end
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 29 @ 8:21 PM ET
That's great. Good for bears/wildlife.
- Pixote Andolini

now if the republicans can just get the bears to pay for it
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:21 PM ET
Remember last game when the linemen were counting the inches to the red line on the dump ins? This game every potential icing is waved off it seems.
Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Upstate, NY
Joined: 05.28.2013

Apr 29 @ 8:21 PM ET
I'm pretty sure you're high as poop.
- Flyersgod

If he was high as poop he wouldn't have an opinion, dumbass.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:22 PM ET
Far too reactionary, conservative and defense minded.

On the plus, I thought Giroux and Raffl had a hell of a period. Much better for Hartnell and Simmonds as well.

- flyer_nutter


Well when you turn the puck over as much as they did that period, you have to be defense minded. The game play is not defense minded or conservative. Berube is not a coach that wants to sit back in a conservative defensive posture. I have no idea where that belief comes from.
EducatedOpinion
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.11.2013

Apr 29 @ 8:22 PM ET
now if the republicans can just get the bears to pay for it
- hogweed


Those lazy, shifty bears better pay for it.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:23 PM ET
Neither team played really well.
Flyers have some good bursts, Rangers have good chances.
Couturier played a really bad period with two horrible turnovers.
Macdonald and Coburn with some bad plays.

Happy they are up 1-0 but not happy with how they played.

- opeth_pa

TSN panel just made fun of the Flyers 1st period turnovers. Aaron Ward: "You might as well play these clips to circus music."
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:23 PM ET
Far too reactionary, conservative and defense minded.

On the plus, I thought Giroux and Raffl had a hell of a period. Much better for Hartnell and Simmonds as well.

- flyer_nutter


the energy is there from much of the team, a lot better than what we've seen in much of the rest of the series, but it's misdirected. they create most of their own problems.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:23 PM ET
Far too reactionary, conservative and defense minded.

On the plus, I thought Giroux and Raffl had a hell of a period. Much better for Hartnell and Simmonds as well.

- flyer_nutter



As most have pointed out....our best players have to be our best players......Giroux was the bast player on the ice in the first period....did he lose a face off? But man that 4th line is really atrocious.........c'mon boys it's right there....take it!!!!!!
EducatedOpinion
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.11.2013

Apr 29 @ 8:24 PM ET
Well when you turn the puck over as much as they did that period, you have to be defense minded. The game play is not defense minded or conservative. Berube is not a coach that wants to sit back in a conservative defensive posture. I have no idea where that belief comes from.
- MJL

I would say the belief comes from the way they played the first five games. I'm not saying they were ultra conservative in the first 5, but definitely more so than the last 20 games of the regular season.
JonnyHammerstix
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.12.2013

Apr 29 @ 8:24 PM ET
Really good last shift there by Giroux. Hopefully that continues for the rest of the game. I refuse to be negative.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:24 PM ET
TSN panel just made fun of the Flyers 1st period turnovers. Aaron Ward: "You might as well play these clips to circus music."
- Pixote Andolini


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:24 PM ET
they miss passes to wide open guys more than I have ever seen a team do this. all turn into turnovers or icings when it would otherwise be a routine break out and the puck in the rags end
- dillpx183


Look at the Rangers breakouts. First of all they are under far less pressure then the Flyers are. But they use the whole ice. Flyers don't use the middle of the ice. Every breakout is along the wall, and the Rangers simply jump on it, with the 3rd forward or a pinching defenseman. Need a forward to come back deep and give a center option to the defenseman. If they take the wall away, use the center of the ice.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:24 PM ET
I would say the belief comes from the way they played the first five games. I'm not saying they were ultra conservative in the first 5, but definitely more so than the last 20 games of the regular season.
- EducatedOpinion


It's not by design from the Coach.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 29 @ 8:25 PM ET
TSN panel just made fun of the Flyers 1st period turnovers. Aaron Ward: "You might as well play these clips to circus music."
- Pixote Andolini



It was really bad that period.
Even with that they survived so hopefully time to get better.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:25 PM ET
Well when you turn the puck over as much as they did that period, you have to be defense minded. The game play is not defense minded or conservative. Berube is not a coach that wants to sit back in a conservative defensive posture. I have no idea where that belief comes from.
- MJL


Reminds me of a period against the Pens from a couple of playoffs ago.....and they won that series....open her up......
EducatedOpinion
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.11.2013

Apr 29 @ 8:25 PM ET
It may just be me, but I'd say the most atrocious part of the series has been Comcast's music selection to start each period.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 29 @ 8:25 PM ET
i refuse to be negative.
- JonnyHammerstix


I'm sorry, you will not be liked by the majority of this forum then.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:25 PM ET
Not getting into, but you see exactly the faults of Holmgren that period.

The team trying to set the pace and move the puck quickly starting from the back end. Unable to do so.

I don't see how a team assembled by a GM has nothing to do with him.

- flyer_nutter


When players don't play well, or have a bad game, it's not the fault of the GM. This has nothing to do with Holmgren. Players have to play.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 29 @ 8:26 PM ET
the energy is there from much of the team, a lot better than what we've seen in much of the rest of the series, but it's misdirected. they create most of their own problems.
- hammarby31


Its ugly for sure.

They are trying to push the pace, and being exposed in the process. At least though, they are trying to win. First time all series I have seen them really try to take the game by the horns.

If that's what they are, so limited, then so be it. At least try though, and I will give them credit for that.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 29 @ 8:26 PM ET
It was really bad that period.
Even with that they survived so hopefully time to get better.

- opeth_pa


Actually I thought the Rangers played loose as well...
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 29 @ 8:27 PM ET
When players don't play well, or have a bad game, it's not the fault of the GM. This has nothing to do with Holmgren. Players have to play.
- MJL


I am of the frame of mind that when a GM assembles a team, he is essentially responsible for it.

hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 29 @ 8:27 PM ET
9 giveaways so far by the Flyers.
1 by the Rangers

- Flyersgod

worst first-touch team i've ever seen
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 29 @ 8:27 PM ET
they miss passes to wide open guys more than I have ever seen a team do this. all turn into turnovers or icings when it would otherwise be a routine break out and the puck in the rags end
- dillpx183



They are somewhat rattled, and feeling the Rangers speed even when it is not right there. Hence the hurried passes etc. The over-exuberant celebration after goal 1 is revealing. Reminds me of Richard's (I think) first goal against the Pens in 2008 ECF. I don't really remember the actual goal - I remember him 'over-celebrating' though.
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