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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 26 @ 9:35 AM ET
Flyers P/60 this series:

Jake: 2.82
Art Ross: 2.63
Baby Schenn 2.14
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G: 1.61



- Tomahawk


Giroux has basically been a non-factor the entire series. The two games the Flyers won their goaltenders have been # 1 star. Not sure they can continue to rely on that. I'm confident in Mason, but the team play around him has to improve exponentially.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 9:35 AM ET
No such luck. Sorry you ended up sitting there alone, but you apparently managed to muddle through.
- tangent_man


It's all good! There were other Flyers fans there to hang with!

Plus beer, food and playoff hockey is always a winning combo!
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:36 AM ET
i wore my orange danny markov jersey tonight. i can't let go.
- hammarby31

i was right behind you in line at the concession stand....behind section 107-108
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 9:36 AM ET
It's ok. Last I heard E was sharing a drink they call Loneliness, so at the very least- his night was better than drinking alone.
- Giroux_Is_God


Hmm, I think was drinking Yuengling
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:37 AM ET
Which was more amusing this past week... #PutOurBallsOnTheTable or #NightFishing?
- Tomahawk


Night fishing -- that was/is awesome; Phil Kessel must be like "Oh, my gosh, I extended for eight years for this poop"
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 26 @ 9:38 AM ET
Any update on grossmann? I expect that if he can play he will try but I worry that he's limited in mobility as it is. May be best to go to gill regardless as scary as that sounds.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Apr 26 @ 9:39 AM ET


We got a series!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:40 AM ET
Giroux has basically been a non-factor the entire series. The two games the Flyers won their goaltenders have been # 1 star. Not sure they can continue to rely on that. I'm confident in Mason, but the team play around him has to improve exponentially.
- PLindbergh31


I'm just going to defend Giroux again -- not the production, or lack thereof. This is just a tricky series for him, because again, the Rags don't have to respect Hartnell's speed, and a right-handed center kinda needs a LW to be a threat for the game to become a little more manageable when you're being watched like a hawk
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 26 @ 9:41 AM ET
Great work by Mason last night. He was outstanding and his puck handling was huge for the team.

Matt Read had a great game. He was all over the place last night and the Couturier line, as a whole, was our best line.

Flyers need to limit their turnovers. They should only attempt to skate the puck in when they have numbers. Force the Rangers to go behind their own net and get the puck. Pound McDonagh.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 9:43 AM ET
Great work by Mason last night. He was outstanding and his puck handling was huge for the team.

Matt Read had a great game. He was all over the place last night and the Couturier line, as a whole, was our best line.

Flyers need to limit their turnovers. They should only attempt to skate the puck in when they have numbers. Force the Rangers to go behind their own net and get the puck. Pound McDonagh.

- PhillySportsGuy


I agree with all of that, especially the last part. McDonagh really looked like he was laboring in the 3rd.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 26 @ 9:44 AM ET
I'm just going to defend Giroux again -- not the production, or lack thereof. This is just a tricky series for him, because again, the Rags don't have to respect Hartnell's speed, and a right-handed center kinda needs a LW to be a threat for the game to become a little more manageable when you're being watched like a hawk
- AllInForFlyers


I hear you, but he's going to have to produce something in these last 3 games for the Flyers to win imo. It's hard to imagine them being able to win this series without at least one dominant performance from Giroux.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 26 @ 9:47 AM ET
I hear you, but he's going to have to produce something in these last 3 games for the Flyers to win imo. It's hard to imagine them being able to win this series without at least one dominant performance from Giroux.
- PLindbergh31


You're right -- absolutely right. I don't know exactly how he does it, but you're right: I don't see how you win two games without him having a multipoint night in at least one of them
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 26 @ 9:50 AM ET
I agree with all of that, especially the last part. McDonagh really looked like he was laboring in the 3rd.
- BiggE


I know. They have the luxury of knowing where he's injured too. Take shots at that shoulder whenever you can.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 26 @ 9:51 AM ET
With a practice scheduled for this morning, I'm hoping this is the first step in getting Laughton in there for Rinaldo. I just don't trust Zac to toe the line and it is now a best of three series, a moment of stupidity will cost them the series.

I think there more inclined to let Laughton just skate with the Black Aces, but I hope I'm wrong.

- ravishingone


Laughton in for vinny in my opinion

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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 26 @ 9:54 AM ET
Giroux has basically been a non-factor the entire series. The two games the Flyers won their goaltenders have been # 1 star. Not sure they can continue to rely on that. I'm confident in Mason, but the team play around him has to improve exponentially.
- PLindbergh31


Giroux has not been a non factor. He's been a plus player while Playing tenacious in his own end. Has had some nice setups and of course face off wins
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 26 @ 9:57 AM ET
Giroux has basically been a non-factor the entire series. The two games the Flyers won their goaltenders have been # 1 star. Not sure they can continue to rely on that. I'm confident in Mason, but the team play around him has to improve exponentially.
- PLindbergh31


I gave the flyers a 30% shot at winning this series. I don't see any reason to deviate from that. Who would have thought that a noon start would benefit the flyers? Apparently the king needs a full day of primping to be most effective. He is not good in early starts
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Apr 26 @ 10:00 AM ET
He looks completely shot.
- PLindbergh31


He has not looked good and as soon as the puck leaves the Rangers zone I start to worry about Vinny coming back. I still think he is going to get a big goal for us in this series.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:01 AM ET
The following is the Pens projected forward lineup for today's game.

Chris Kunitz - Sidney Crosby - Lee Stempniak
Jussi Jokinen - Evgeni Malkin - James Neal
Beau Bennett - Brandon Sutter - Jayson Megna
Tanner Glass - Joe Vitale - Craig Adams

Bad enough to have a mentally fragile sieve like MAF in the net, but you simply cannot win a Cup with Lee Stempniak playing on your 1st line and that bottom six.

For all the bad rap Hartnell sometimes gets around here, I'm pretty sure the Pens would rather have him than Stempniak on their top line.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Apr 26 @ 10:04 AM ET
Any update on grossmann? I expect that if he can play he will try but I worry that he's limited in mobility as it is. May be best to go to gill regardless as scary as that sounds.
- Hextall271


I would go with Gus just simply for his mobility. If he can't do the job than I would use the steady veteran Gil in game 6
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:04 AM ET
I gave the flyers a 30% shot at winning this series. I don't see any reason to deviate from that. Who would have thought that a noon start would benefit the flyers? Apparently the king needs a full day of primping to be most effective. He is not good in early starts
- Just5


I picked the Flyers in 6 and I'm staying with it.

I think Giroux finally has a breakout game Sunday as the shorter turnaround time really has an effect on McDonagh and I think Mason has another huge game at home in game 6 and the Flyers are off to meet the BlueJackets (hopefully, not because we can't beat the Pens, but because I don't want to see them win anything ever!!)

GO FLYERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RANGERS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:06 AM ET
The following is the Pens projected forward lineup for today's game.

Chris Kunitz - Sidney Crosby - Lee Stempniak
Jussi Jokinen - Evgeni Malkin - James Neal
Beau Bennett - Brandon Sutter - Jayson Megna
Tanner Glass - Joe Vitale - Craig Adams

Bad enough to have a mentally fragile sieve like MAF in the net, but you simply cannot win a Cup with Lee Stempniak playing on your 1st line and that bottom six.

For all the bad rap Hartnell sometimes gets around here, I'm pretty sure the Pens would rather have him than Stempniak on their top line.

- BiggE


The All-dissappointment line
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:07 AM ET
[quote=3flyerkids]

I disagree

The biggest hole created by the loss of Grossmann is on the PK and that is exactly where Gill will help the most. If you put Gus in the lineup for him and either Schenn, AMac, Timonen or Coburn take a penalty, you may be forced to use Streit or Gus on the PK and that is not a real good idea.

Heck, it's not like the loss of Grossmann is taking any mobility away from the D in the first place. Honestly, if it was anyone else that got hurt, I'd say go to Gus, but IMO Gill's job on this roster is basically that of Grossmann injury insurance.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:08 AM ET
The All-dissappointment line
- PhillySportsGuy



Their lack of depth of front is just ugly.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:09 AM ET


Their lack of depth of front is just ugly.

- BiggE


The Sutter line is a killer. Bennett was highly touted and Sutter was supposed to be a very good third liner.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:10 AM ET
The Sutter line is a killer. Bennett was highly touted and Sutter was supposed to be a very good third liner.
- PhillySportsGuy


Yup, it's basically a 4th line masquerading as a 3rd

LOL, their 4th line should have never left the AHL!
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