Joshrey Leipul fills that spot
- TheThrill

No that's Jeffrey Lopol spot..

thats unfair.. gunnar is by far the most reliable d-man when it comes to playing actual defense lol

leafs need more of that, not less.
- Dozzer

He's a dime a dozen Dozzer... yeah he's slightly more reliable than a 19 year old and a couple other poop bags but that's not aiming very high.

Corsi can read minds?
- senstroll

why would i pretend to know who is and isnt available

someone like gio out of calgary.. along those lines

Any team trading for Gardiner is doing so on potential and there is lots still left..... a smart GM moves Gardiner this summer if his value is high, I tend to agree with you and believe it is.

Gardiner, Franson, Reimer, Lupul, Gunnarson and the #8 - Used to bring in a D to play with Phaneuf and some secondary scoring.

Van, Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton are all in positions to make big trades and need to do so to improve.

If Orpik hits FA give em a big fat contract.
- Mr_Smokey

more overpaying

i get that. but franson will simply cost too much to be a bottom pairing guy who has a nice shot and thats it.

these are the guys other teams cut loose and replace with younger and cheaper prospects with the same skill set.. the leafs need to learn how to do this
- Dozzer

Franson had a bad year. He is capable of top 4 minutes with a solid D partner. Guy has size and hits he just needs to stop running around. EVeryone is so quick to love/hate players around here but the guy was top 5 in NHL hits, 30-40 pts and is a big right shooting D man. Don't grow on trees even though it's cool to hate on franson these days. Terrible defensively this year i agree but i think he has some tools.

He's a dime a dozen Dozzer... yeah he's slightly more reliable than a 19 year old and a couple other poop bags but that's not aiming very high.
- Mr_Smokey

and you replace him with?

i'm not attached to him by any means.. but we cant just keep putting offense only guys in the lineup.. the defense is weak as it is

more overpaying
- senstroll

A - That's free agency

B - have you seen what other options the Leafs have? It don't look so good....

why would i pretend to know who is and isnt available

someone like gio out of calgary.. along those lines
- Dozzer

cuz we all pretend to know poop we have no clue about
its hockeybuzz

and you replace him with?

i'm not attached to him by any means.. but we cant just keep putting offense only guys in the lineup.. the defense is weak as it is
- Dozzer

ppl only care about offense on here..so gunner sucks i guess

who is better defensively.. on the leafs?
- Dozzer

Paul Ranger

I honestly think Rielly makes better defensive plays and far better offensive plays leading to less turnovers. Praising Gunnar's D is so 2011. He's pretty bad now

ok, which one of you guys is that loser?
http://capgeek.com/armchair-gm/roster/7606

cuz we all pretend to know poop we have no clue about
its hockeybuzz
- senstroll

preach it brother

A - That's free agency

B - have you seen what other options the Leafs have? It don't look so good....
- Mr_Smokey

A - when will we learn our lesson
lets compile the leafs FA signing list over the past 4 or 5 years

B - there are better options that orpik

Franson had a bad year. He is capable of top 4 minutes with a solid D partner. Guy has size and hits he just needs to stop running around. EVeryone is so quick to love/hate players around here but the guy was top 5 in NHL hits, 30-40 pts and is a big right shooting D man. Don't grow on trees even though it's cool to hate on franson these days. Terrible defensively this year i agree but i think he has some tools.
- clark_griswold

oh i completely disagree

he skates like a hippo.. is horrid in his own end and is generally way over rated because he can put up some points.. he will likely cost 3.5-4 million as well.\

cut him loose.

cuz we all pretend to know poop we have no clue about
its hockeybuzz
- senstroll

ok, which one of you guys is that loser?
http://capgeek.com/armchair-gm/roster/7606
- Pecafan Fan

I think its Dave Nonis..the Team name is - Nonis' Dream Team

and you replace him with?

i'm not attached to him by any means.. but we cant just keep putting offense only guys in the lineup.. the defense is weak as it is
- Dozzer

Andrew MacWilliam

Moulson is a big scorer when playing with Tavares. Not so much any where else and his cap hit will be similar to Lupul's . No thanks.
- clark_griswold

He had 29 pts in 44 games with Buffalo. The top point getter on that team was Hodgson with 44 pts in 72 games. That's .66 PPG playing with nobody at all.

If I had to pick between him and Lupul, I pick Lupul. If I have to pick between Lupul+Gardiner or Gio+Moulson, I go with the latter. You don't?

oh i completely disagree

he skates like a hippo.. is horrid in his own end and is generally way over rated because he can put up some points.. he will likely cost 3.5-4 million as well.\

cut him loose.
- Dozzer

agree to disagree but i hope you weren't one of the 'franson can replace dion' before the year to which i laughed at...again, he has tools but im not going to change your mind. 30-40 pts, top 5 hits, 6'5 and right shot but i digress.....point is on a good D (minus i guess gardiner for a more reliable Defensive guy) franson looks pretty damn good. He looked great in the playoffs didn't he

He had 29 pts in 44 games with Buffalo. The top point getter on that team was Hodgson with 44 pts in 72 games. That's .66 PPG playing with nobody at all.

If I had to pick between him and Lupul, I pick Lupul. If I have to pick between Lupul+Gardiner or Gio+Moulson, I go with the latter. You don't?
- 1979AD

Every time

He had 29 pts in 44 games with Buffalo. The top point getter on that team was Hodgson with 44 pts in 72 games. That's .66 PPG playing with nobody at all.

If I had to pick between him and Lupul, I pick Lupul. If I have to pick between Lupul+Gardiner or Gio+Moulson, I go with the latter. You don't?
- 1979AD

Gio is awesome.. I just think RC finds a way to drive him into the ground.

He had 29 pts in 44 games with Buffalo. The top point getter on that team was Hodgson with 44 pts in 72 games. That's .66 PPG playing with nobody at all.

If I had to pick between him and Lupul, I pick Lupul. If I have to pick between Lupul+Gardiner or Gio+Moulson, I go with the latter. You don't?
- 1979AD

i do but you are making a big assumption that Cgy wants to trade gio, which they don't.

Franson had a bad year. He is capable of top 4 minutes with a solid D partner. Guy has size and hits he just needs to stop running around. EVeryone is so quick to love/hate players around here but the guy was top 5 in NHL hits, 30-40 pts and is a big right shooting D man. Don't grow on trees even though it's cool to hate on franson these days. Terrible defensively this year i agree but i think he has some tools.
- clark_griswold

The points you make are exactly why they might be able to trade him for a useful player who's sound defensively and works hard.

ok, which one of you guys is that loser?
http://capgeek.com/armchair-gm/roster/7606
- Pecafan Fan

WTF

Andrew MacWilliam
- PinkSock

There's so many Dmen in the west that we rarely hear about that are very solid. MacWilliam? Meh... We did the kostka/holzer thing and that was a huge waste of time.