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Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON Joined: 08.02.2006
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Kadri is unwanted by most of the NHL. Leafs are definitely going to trade him if they ever get a good offer. But Kadri's act, bad energy, and lousy genetics(he is one of those bloated/fat/skinny guys, make him pretty untradeable for anything large. - organicsteroid
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Dozzer
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Paul Ranger
I honestly think Rielly makes better defensive plays and far better offensive plays leading to less turnovers. Praising Gunnar's D is so 2011. He's pretty bad now - Arctic_AARDVARK
hey, i like ranger.. but he doesnt face the same competition as gunnar
put gunnar where he belongs in the lineup and he would look far better...
right now RC matches him up against the crosby's and ovie's of the league.. i mean come on. |
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clark_griswold
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The points you make are exactly why they might be able to trade him for a useful player who's sound defensively and works hard. - 1979AD
i said trade either him or gardiner, but i would move gardiner first and i like jake. |
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Dozzer
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agree to disagree but i hope you weren't one of the 'franson can replace dion' before the year to which i laughed at...again, he has tools but im not going to change your mind. 30-40 pts, top 5 hits, 6'5 and right shot but i digress.....point is on a good D (minus i guess gardiner for a more reliable Defensive guy) franson looks pretty damn good. He looked great in the playoffs didn't he - clark_griswold
i dislike the DP extension so much i would happily put franson there
whats going to happen? the leafs miss the playoffs? |
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Mr_Smokey
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.02.2008
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and you replace him with?
i'm not attached to him by any means.. but we cant just keep putting offense only guys in the lineup.. the defense is weak as it is - Dozzer
I replace him through trade. |
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TheThrill
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Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON Joined: 12.10.2013
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hey, i like ranger.. but he doesnt face the same competition as gunnar
put gunnar where he belongs in the lineup and he would look far better...
right now RC matches him up against the crosby's and ovie's of the league.. i mean come on. - Dozzer
And as long as he is on the team, Randy will continue to do this. The guy is insane |
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Mr_Smokey
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.02.2008
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A - when will we learn our lesson
lets compile the leafs FA signing list over the past 4 or 5 years
B - there are better options that orpik - senstroll
There's definitely better options but not in FA... It's a lot more like to sign a FA than to make a trade happen. |
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clark_griswold
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i dislike the DP extension so much i would happily put franson there
whats going to happen? the leafs miss the playoffs? - Dozzer
i guess. The leafs are neither bottom feeders nor contenders but i get the feeling of hopelessness. Point is if you think a full rebuild is necessary than we're on different pages so no point on going further |
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Dozzer
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And as long as he is on the team, Randy will continue to do this. The guy is insane - TheThrill
i wanna start the "FFS CARLYLE!" club
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1979AD
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i do but you are making a big assumption that Cgy wants to trade gio, which they don't. - clark_griswold
The whole talk about replacing Lupul with Moulson was predicated on a Lupul+Gardz for Gio scenario. ![:mad:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/angry.gif) Of course it's a big hypothetical assumption. Is this your first day here? |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
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Location: Cause y’know we’ll all be found | when I come around, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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hey, i like ranger.. but he doesnt face the same competition as gunnar
put gunnar where he belongs in the lineup and he would look far better...
right now RC matches him up against the crosby's and ovie's of the league.. i mean come on. - Dozzer
It's not an easy take for sure. Gunnar doesn't take as many penalties so I guess it's good that he plays against top competition sometimes. Our whole defense needs to reconfigured. As easy as it is to female dog about franson, Gunnar, ranger, and Gards, the real problem is Phaneuf and his terrible contract. |
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Garnie
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Andrew MacWilliam ![:thumbsdown:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/thumbsdown.gif) - PinkSock
Do you know who Shawn Brant is? |
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Dozzer
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i guess. The leafs are neither bottom feeders nor contenders but i get the feeling of hopelessness. Point is if you think a full rebuild is necessary than we're on different pages so no point on going further - clark_griswold
this team is going off track in a big hurry
this is not the foundation of a cup contender... plain and simple |
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1979AD
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hey, i like ranger.. but he doesnt face the same competition as gunnar
put gunnar where he belongs in the lineup and he would look far better...
right now RC matches him up against the crosby's and ovie's of the league.. i mean come on. - Dozzer
You just said he was their best defensive D. Who else should be playing vs top lines? |
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Tumbleweed
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i do but you are making a big assumption that Cgy wants to trade gio, which they don't. - clark_griswold
Just an example of what can be done.
I think you have to play the cards you have been dealt.
Lupul seems replaceable through the ufa market.
I think a top d-man will have to be acquired through trade. |
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Garnie
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You just said he was their best defensive D. Who else should be playing vs top lines? - 1979AD
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1979AD
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i said trade either him or gardiner, but i would move gardiner first and i like jake. - clark_griswold
At this point, I would explore trading the whole team except for Kessel/JVR/Bernier/Rielly. That and a new coach with a modern system/approach and you have the "culture change" Shanny was talking about. |
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Dozzer
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It's not an easy take for sure. Gunnar doesn't take as many penalties so I guess it's good that he plays against top competition sometimes. Our whole defense needs to reconfigured. As easy as it is to female dog about franson, Gunnar, ranger, and Gards, the real problem is Phaneuf and his terrible contract. - Arctic_AARDVARK
building the D around phaneuf is a horrible idea.
but in typical leafs fashion.. he's the best we got so we'll try to force it |
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1979AD
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Weber ![;)](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif) - Garnie
Yannick might be available. |
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PinkSock
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Do you know who Shawn Brant is? ![;)](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif) - Garnie
Ya, local "native" who cause a lot of poop, and sells cheap smokes and Walleye out on the reserve |
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PinkSock
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If you want a top pairing Dman...gonna have to trade JVR |
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Garnie
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Ya, local "native" who cause a lot of poop, and sells cheap smokes out on the reserve ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - PinkSock
clown...I heard he might not even be native and he was adopted...but he looks native...I lived in Bellvegas at 1 time...I had to deal with that clown at work.
His mom and daddy were constantly bailing him out of trouble |
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Garnie
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If you want a top pairing Dman...gonna have to trade JVR - PinkSock
no..JVR/Kessel should be left alone |
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PinkSock
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clown...I heard he might not even be native and he was adopted...but he looks native...I lived in Bellvegas at 1 time...I had to deal with that clown at work.
His mom and daddy were constantly bailing him out of trouble ![:lol:](https://hbcf.s3.amazonaws.com/images/emoticons/lol.gif) - Garnie
Ya he is adpoted, he basically gets slaps on the wrist..I cant stand the idiot, him and his crew are just a bunch of drunks |
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SolidGoldBricks
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Location: Robidas Island, MI Joined: 10.30.2013
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i wanna start the "FFS CARLYLE!" club - Dozzer
In. |
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