not enough team scoring

bad d men in st louis
- homiedclown

Has a goaltender ever been traded (mid-season) and won the Vezina in the same season?

I'm gonna guess

Rask
Bishop
Varlamov


- sbroads24

i see nothing wrong with those nominations over miller.

working.. we gots crazy busy the last few weeks..
- IndianaSabresFan

Same

I'm gonna guess

Rask
Price
Varlamov

Edit: Bishop was nominated instead of Price
- sbroads24

I think they got it right

Rask will probably win it though

Has a goaltender ever been traded (mid-season) and won the Vezina in the same season?
- buffalofan19

no

this is Murray's signature move so far as a sabres GM

kid better be a top 6 player

http://www.hockeysfuture....rospects/hudson-fasching/
- homiedclown

His development in his first year at Minnesota was amazing. Now looks like he was a steal in the draft in the 4th round . As a freshman he was a key member of Big 10 Championship team and National runners up.

His development in his first year at Minnesota was amazing. Now looks like he was a steal in the draft in the 4th round . As a freshman he was a key member of Big 10 Championship team and National runners up.
- Maximum Signal

it was really 2 seconds for him, on a team that was last in the nhl

a top 6 player is needed for his outcome

Same
- nfph

X2

it was really 2 seconds for him, on a team that was last in the nhl

a top 6 player is needed for his outcome
- homiedclown

I am talking about Fasching . He has not been in the NHL , Who are you referring to , he just finished his first year at University of Minnesota.

And a first and a prospect.

Duchesne has all the makings of a top-5 center in the league, which is one of the few assets more rare than a top defenseman.
- nfph

I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this.

Colorado is not moving Duchene


Better chance going after Eberle
- homiedclown

I know I'm late to my own party, but this isn't speculation, rumors or reality. We're talking value here. That's it.

I am talking about Fasching . He has not been in the NHL , Who are you referring to , he just finished his first year at University of Minnesota.
- Maximum Signal

Delauriers for McNabb
2 2nds for Fasching is what I think he means

Aaron Ekblad has a status, and that status is exceptonal!
- ImThatGuy

blehhhhh verbal diarrhea I have no idea what joke to make today!

Delauriers for McNabb
2 2nds for Fasching is what I think he means
- sbroads24

Funny how LA turned a fourth into 2 2nds.

call me biased, but i think varly has put up a better season than rask.

IMO its no surprise that boston has had a goalie with fantastic numbers since chara has been on the back end. Even their back ups have had consistently good numbers, and while chad johnson is good, he's certainly nothing to write home about.

colorado doesnt have nearly the names on the blue line boston does, and varly has absolutely stood on his head for a young(ish) team that finished second to last in the previous season.

rask might be the better tender, but i think varly had the better season. more wins, only a marginal difference in save %, but a MASSIVE MASSIVE difference in shots faced.

varly faced 400 more shots than tuuka in just 5 more games played. he faced almost 150 more than the next closest tender.

crazy.

Also, just some fun buffalo goaltender facts to get us ready for next year

in the 40 games miller played for buffalo he was 15-22-3. not exactly terrible considering how bad we were.

The rest of our goalies combined for 47 games played (42 games started) with a record of 6-29-7.

obviously theres a little bit of overlap as there aren't 87 games in a season, but /shrug. still pretty hilarious.

call me biased, but i think varly has put up a better season than rask.

IMO its no surprise that boston has had a goalie with fantastic numbers since chara has been on the back end. Even their back ups have had consistently good numbers, and while chad johnson is good, he's certainly nothing to write home about.

colorado doesnt have nearly the names on the blue line boston does, and varly has absolutely stood on his head for a young(ish) team that finished second to last in the previous season.

rask might be the better tender, but i think varly had the better season. more wins, only a marginal difference in save %, but a MASSIVE MASSIVE difference in shots faced.

varly faced 400 more shots than tuuka in just 5 more games played. he faced almost 150 more than the next closest tender.

crazy.

Also, just some fun buffalo goaltender facts to get us ready for next year

in the 40 games miller played for buffalo he was 15-22-3. not exactly terrible considering how bad we were.

The rest of our goalies combined for 47 games played with a record of 6-29-7.

SO pumped for next year.
- Putzfrau

To be fair, those goalies also had to play on a team with no Steve Ott or Matt Moulson and Tyler Myers missed significant time. Also Many of them were making their NHL debut, some of which jumped from the ECHL to the AHL then NHL in 2 weeks. We technically started our 10th string goalie to end the season. Not exactly a recipe for success.

To be fair, those goalies also had to play on a team with no Steve Ott or Matt Moulson and Tyler Myers missed significant time. Also Many of them were making their NHL debut, some of which jumped from the ECHL to the AHL then NHL in 2 weeks. We technically started our 10th string goalie to end the season. Not exactly a recipe for success.
- Buffalo-Sabres

i'm well aware, and it does play into that.

however, we wont be a team with steve ott or matt moulson next year either.

and it's not as if a season of enroth and neuvirth is that much different.

leiuwan, hackett and knapp started 14 games and had 2 wins.

enroth started 26 and had 4.

i'm well aware, and it does play into that.

however, we wont be a team with steve ott or matt moulson next year either.

and it's not as if a season of enroth and neuvirth is that much different.
- Putzfrau

So you're saying we suck?

Murray said he expect a lot of roster turnover. Im thinking No Leino, No John Scott and probably many others. The defense should be better too. Should be interesting.

So you're saying we suck?

Murray said he expect a lot of roster turnover. Im thinking No Leino, No John Scott and probably many others. The defense should be better too. Should be interesting.
- Buffalo-Sabres

i'm saying we could be worse next year

hopefully the defense is better. a whole year of myers would be nice, he looked like he was starting to turn around.

a lot of these hypothetical trade proposals suggest shipping off erhoff. even if risto and mccabe make big strides next year thats still a net loss in talent for that season IMO.

i'm saying we could be worse next year

hopefully the defense is better. a whole year of myers would be nice, he looked like he was starting to turn around.

a lot of these hypothetical trade proposals suggest shipping off erhoff. even if risto and mccabe make big strides next year thats still a net loss in talent for that season IMO.
- Putzfrau

We won't be worse next year. We almost can't be. If I survived that season I can survive anything as a fan.

I could see moving Erhoff at next years deadline. You could tell he wasn't into it after this years came and went. We fielded a weak defense last year because it wasn't the right time to commit to better players. I'm all for letting the young guys like Risto, Zadorov and McCabe take their time getting ready. Maybe one decent off season acquisition to help stabilize things and this team wont be so bad.

We won't be worse next year. We almost can't be. If I survived that season I can survive anything as a fan.

I could see moving Erhoff at next years deadline. You could tell he wasn't into it after this years came and went. We fielded a weak defense last year because it wasn't the right time to commit to better players. I'm all for letting the young guys like Risto, Zadorov and McCabe take their time getting ready. Maybe one decent off season acquisition to help stabilize things and this team wont be so bad.
- Buffalo-Sabres

could you perhaps elaborate on why you think so?

full season without a vanek/ott/moulson. full season without miller. hypothetically without erhoff.

lets say we even make a big splash. lets say we sign callahan. i still think, on paper at least, we are a worse team next year then this year.

i'd love someone to show me why i might be wrong.

Edit: realize that came off a little poopty, but i was trying to be genuine.

could you perhaps elaborate on why you think so?

full season without a vanek/ott/moulson. full season without miller. hypothetically without erhoff.

lets say we even make a big splash. lets say we sign callahan. i still think, on paper at least, we are a worse team next year then this year.

i'd love someone to show me why i might be wrong.
- Putzfrau

game set match.

Will this team score 100 goals with the current roster. Will there be a 20 goal scorer?

game set match.

Will this team score 100 goals with the current roster. Will there be a 20 goal scorer?
- hubie

It's impossible to ice this roster next season as it will be below the cap floor, and yes, Hodgson and Ennis

It's impossible to ice this roster next season as it will be below the cap floor, and yes, Hodgson and Ennis
- sbroads24

There's several players on the roster that will get small pay bumps.

Adding one or two big FA contracts won't make next year's team substantially better than the current team

There's several players on the roster that will get small pay bumps.

Adding one or two big FA contracts won't make next year's team substantially better than the current team
- Putzfrau

I don't want any significant changes but IMO whether we finish dead last or not the team will be better

We have more players progressing than we have regressing