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keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:12 PM ET
I won't enjoy Gilbert because they passed on him when he was on waivers and I will enjoy Strome, Pulock, Reinhart and possibly Del Colle
- Vukota

And while I expect Garth to be more aggressive this offseason in terms of getting help, I certainly don't believe he'd become so overly aggressive as to trade two of his most prized assets for a commodity he's about to become extremely rich in. Not when he can hire a second pairing guy and keep his gems.

kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:13 PM ET
I'm thinking Montreal would love them some Josh Bailey!
- keaner17


Now that I would do
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:14 PM ET
Now that I would do
- kasperrko

We could throw in Carkner!

and Kencan!
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:15 PM ET
We could throw in Carkner!

and Kencan!

- keaner17


Forget Montreal would turn that down in a heart beat. KenCan ruins the trade
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM ET
And while I expect Garth to be more aggressive this offseason in terms of getting help, I certainly don't believe he'd become so overly aggressive as to trade two of his most prized assets for a commodity he's about to become extremely rich in. Not when he can hire a second pairing guy and keep his gems.
- keaner17


Exactly. I would love Subban but I wouldn't give up two of our top prospects and a top 5 pick for him. You then have nothing left to trade for a goalie
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:18 PM ET
Forget Montreal would turn that down in a heart beat. KenCan ruins the trade
- kasperrko

Not if he shows up with his Instructional Videos!!!
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
Exactly. I would love Subban but I wouldn't give up two of our top prospects and a top 5 pick for him. You then have nothing left to trade for a goalie
- Vukota

In a perfect world, they overpay for both and come away with a decent top four dman and Halak via UFA.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
Dan Seriously what and who do you think it would take to get Subban??
- kasperrko



depends how much Subban forces their hand.... I'd say Nelson or Strome one of the d prospects... And either a first rounder or maybe a guy like grabner.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 24 @ 4:57 PM ET
So you would trade Strome, Reinhart and a 1st for subban?
- Vukota



If wouldn't start with that deal but if push came to shove... Yes I would.. While I feel that Reinhart had elite d zone awareness I don't expect much from him offensively. I think you could move one of the d prospects and be in good shape
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 24 @ 5:00 PM ET
I'm gonna say something I might get blasted for in here but I'm not as high on Reinhart as others are.. I see someone capable of being a really good stay at home defenseman but I see limited offensive ability and not enough of a mean streak for someone of that size. Once again this is just my opinion and I can clearly be wrong
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Apr 24 @ 5:28 PM ET
I'm gonna say something I might get blasted for in here but I'm not as high on Reinhart as others are.. I see someone capable of being a really good stay at home defenseman but I see limited offensive ability and not enough of a mean streak for someone of that size. Once again this is just my opinion and I can clearly be wrong
- Dan Petriw


Well, you won't get blasted as much as I probably will for saying I actually agree with the Rangers fan who said how much we overrate our prospects. There are rookies who stepped in this year and really turned some heads around the league. None of them played for the New York Islanders. I'm not saying ours are crap. Not at all. But it seems like everyone who looked like they could become competent NHLers are elevated to elite status around here. Let's give it time before we start saying they're better than players already putting up points, or counting on a rookie who scored a whopping 17 points to run the power play.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 24 @ 5:48 PM ET
Well, you won't get blasted as much as I probably will for saying I actually agree with the Rangers fan who said how much we overrate our prospects. There are rookies who stepped in this year and really turned some heads around the league. None of them played for the New York Islanders. I'm not saying ours are crap. Not at all. But it seems like everyone who looked like they could become competent NHLers are elevated to elite status around here. Let's give it time before we start saying they're better than players already putting up points, or counting on a rookie who scored a whopping 17 points to run the power play.
- UIF



you have to pleased at what Strome, Nelson, CDH and to an extent Lee showed this season but honestly outside of Mackinnon who looked like an all star already this season.. takes time...
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 6:39 PM ET
If wouldn't start with that deal but if push came to shove... Yes I would.. While I feel that Reinhart had elite d zone awareness I don't expect much from him offensively. I think you could move one of the d prospects and be in good shape
- Dan Petriw

That's a big time over payment for a guy who has had one year with more then 40 points and isn't exactly know for his D. I undertstand he is only 24 but to give up 3 top 5 picks for him would be insane IMO
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 24 @ 6:42 PM ET
Well that's the thing, you're not getting Subban for that. Not unless Snow is the GM of the Habs
- Vukota

Isn't he going to be a rfa?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 6:49 PM ET
Isn't he going to be a rfa?
- Cptmjl

they don't even like to sign their own guys they are going to sign somebody else's??
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 24 @ 6:49 PM ET
Well , I guess point totals say a lot. I dont believe they say everything, but in 37 games, it looks like Strome couldn't produce consistantly. Nuge had basically the same numbers a year ago in the AHL as Strome has now. I'm not knocking Strome, I just think there is a reason he wasn't picked ahead of Nuge at their draft. I predict RNH will finish next season somewhere between 10th and 15th among Centers. This past year he finished 27th.
- Jeropotato

I'm pretty high on Strome. He was playing on the fourth line for the most part when he was up. He has a much wider spectrum to his game then I thought he would and has some pretty good hands and nasty shot. I think he's going to surprise a lot of people next season. He's still a prospect and it was a small sample size but from what I've seen I'm pretty certain he's going to be quite good. Not saying he's going to be better than anyone but I'm pretty excited to see him next season.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 24 @ 6:51 PM ET
I'm pretty high on Strome. He was playing on the fourth line for the most part when he was up. He has a much wider spectrum to his game then I thought he would and has some pretty good hands and nasty shot. I think he's going to surprise a lot of people next season. He's still a prospect and it was a small sample size but from what I've seen I'm pretty certain he's going to be quite good. Not saying he's going to be better than anyone but I'm pretty excited to see him next season.
- Cptmjl



He only played a handful of shifts on the fourth line.. Majority was the third line until all the injuries... I don't think he is going to surprise any off us. He has all world talent and I think 40-50 points is feasable.. Yes I'm high on Strome as well
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 24 @ 6:53 PM ET
they don't even like to sign their own guys they are going to sign somebody else's??
- Vukota



The reason Subban is likely available is because the Habs are skeptical paying him
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 6:55 PM ET
The reason Subban is likely available is because the Habs are skeptical paying him
- Dan Petriw

Why are they skeptical if he is such a stud?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 24 @ 6:56 PM ET
they don't even like to sign their own guys they are going to sign somebody else's??
- Vukota




Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 24 @ 6:59 PM ET
He only played a handful of shifts on the fourth line.. Majority was the third line until all the injuries... I don't think he is going to surprise any off us. He has all world talent and I think 40-50 points is feasable.. Yes I'm high on Strome as well
- Dan Petriw

I remember him playing quite a bit on the fourth line maybe I'm wrong? I'd be happy with that production. I still think he has potential to be a 60-70 pt player but I'd be happy with that and what looks like a half way decent defensive game.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 24 @ 7:00 PM ET
Why are they skeptical if he is such a stud?
- Vukota



They don't want to commit to him for 8 years at 8 or 9 per... Their are other factors playing into it as well..
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Apr 24 @ 7:01 PM ET
I remember him playing quite a bit on the fourth line maybe I'm wrong? I'd be happy with that production. I still think he has potential to be a 60-70 pt player but I'd be happy with that and what looks like a half way decent defensive game.
- Cptmjl



Yes I think he can be a 60-70 point guy.. But that is unrealistic for next season
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:05 PM ET
Get Franson from the Maple Leafs...at the end of the season, when the Islaes defense got bigger (Mayfield and Czuzcman) the goals against went down...
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:07 PM ET
I'll pass as well. Rather hold on to guys like Strome, Reinhart, and Pulock along with Lee and Nelson.
- ses111



I agree. Unless the return is a Chara LIKE "D" man who can dominate games for the next 10 yrs. Then no way do I trade Strome. Not even for PK Subban. Especially if he's in a package with our top "D" prospects.

I've been watching hockey since the late 1960's. The last rookie Islander who impressed me like Strome impresses me was Ziggy Palfy. 1st time I saw Ziggy play I knew he was special. I feel the same way about Strome. He'll be special. Soon rather then later.
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