Have there been any rumblings of the Islanders wanting to move Bailey? I mean both the Oil and Islanders need that top pair Dman, but what about swapping forwards that need a desperate change of scenery?

Would a Gagner for Bailey swap make sense? Gagner can play RW as well as centre and considering you guys have a bit different of a dynamic in your top 6, do you think it could work? I think Gagner playing with bigger players like Lee or Nelson will help.
- ystoil

Interesting

Have there been any rumblings of the Islanders wanting to move Bailey? I mean both the Oil and Islanders need that top pair Dman, but what about swapping forwards that need a desperate change of scenery?

Would a Gagner for Bailey swap make sense? Gagner can play RW as well as centre and considering you guys have a bit different of a dynamic in your top 6, do you think it could work? I think Gagner playing with bigger players like Lee or Nelson will help.
- ystoil

Done...will you be calling Gary to announce this or I?

Done...will you be calling Gary to announce this or I?
- keaner17

If we call same time, maybe they will like our urgency?

I do think both players need a fresh start and perhaps value is close enough that this trade is viable.

If we call same time, maybe they will like our urgency?

I do think both players need a fresh start and perhaps value is close enough that this trade is viable.
- ystoil

Gagner happens to be good friends with JT too

Have there been any rumblings of the Islanders wanting to move Bailey? I mean both the Oil and Islanders need that top pair Dman, but what about swapping forwards that need a desperate change of scenery?

Would a Gagner for Bailey swap make sense? Gagner can play RW as well as centre and considering you guys have a bit different of a dynamic in your top 6, do you think it could work? I think Gagner playing with bigger players like Lee or Nelson will help.
- ystoil

*Blows Loudest,longest, Wettest fart

The cost would probably be Strome, one of the blue chip defensive prospects, and either a draft pick or another roster player

Pass. I'd rather we add a #3 or #4 than deal away Strome AND Reinhart or Pulock let alone including an additional player or pick.
- keaner17

I'll pass as well. Rather hold on to guys like Strome, Reinhart, and Pulock along with Lee and Nelson.

The cost would probably be Strome, one of the blue chip defensive prospects, and either a draft pick or another roster player

Pass. I'd rather we add a #3 or #4 than deal away Strome AND Reinhart or Pulock let alone including an additional player or pick.
- keaner17

you have to give up something to get something. This has been the problem with the Islanders lately they are afraid to trade any of their prospects. Unfortunately some times you have to take that chance to improve your club, and straight from Snows mouth is that we now have the prospects to trade if we need to

Gagner happens to be good friends with JT too
- keaner17

I was going to mention having Gagner on JT's line on the RW but can't see him usurping the spot from Okposo.

you have to give up something to get something. This has been the problem with the Islanders lately they are afraid to trade any of their prospects. Unfortunately some times you have to take that chance to improve your club, and straight from Snows mouth is that we now have the prospects to trade if we need to
- kasperrko

With many of our top tier defensive prospects nearing NHL readiness, we don't HAVE to give up anything via trade.
The addage of HAVING to give something up was just as much a credo of the Milbury days as anything.

While I think Subban is a damn good player, I don't think he's worth dealing 2 of the teams top 3 or 4 prospects for. In the case of Strome, this kid will easily be the teams second best player in anothe 2-3 years. Reinhart and Pulock both will likely be important fixtures on this team for a long long time to come. Sorry but Subban isn't complete enough IMO to warrant making a deal like that.

He will be good, no doubt, but I think RNH is and will always be a somewhat superior player.
- Jeropotato

Not that I'm debating this but what are you basing this on?

The cost would probably be Strome, one of the blue chip defensive prospects, and either a draft pick or another roster player

Pass. I'd rather we add a #3 or #4 than deal away Strome AND Reinhart or Pulock let alone including an additional player or pick.
- keaner17

25 year old franchise dmen don't grow on trees. Especially ones that can solve the power play and put up 50 points

With many of our top tier defensive prospects nearing NHL readiness, we don't HAVE to give up anything via trade.
The addage of HAVING to give something up was just as much a credo of the Milbury days as anything.

While I think Subban is a damn good player, I don't think he's worth dealing 2 of the teams top 3 or 4 prospects for. In the case of Strome, this kid will easily be the teams second best player in anothe 2-3 years. Reinhart and Pulock both will likely be important fixtures on this team for a long long time to come. Sorry but Subban isn't complete enough IMO to warrant making a deal like that.
- keaner17

PRoblem with prospects is that you really don't know what they will do at the NHL level. There have been plenty of times guys will look amazing in the AHL just to be nothing in the NHL. Subban I believe has the experience and is a notch above all those guys. Since we have no success in free agency Garth is going to have no choice but to trade for a goalie or a depth forward and or defenseman

25 year old franchise dmen don't grow on trees. Especially ones that can solve the power play and put up 50 points
- Dan Petriw

I agree Dan a player like Subban could have been the difference of another 5 to 10 wins alone

25 year old franchise dmen don't grow on trees. Especially ones that can solve the power play and put up 50 points
- Dan Petriw

I don't consider him a franchise dman. I consider him a very good offensive dman whose defensive zone play is questionable.

25 year old franchise dmen don't grow on trees. Especially ones that can solve the power play and put up 50 points
- Dan Petriw

Agreed but I wouldn't trade 2 or 3 of our best prospects for him.

Interesting
- Vukota

you realize this was rumored about 20 days ago right?

I don't consider him a franchise dman. I consider him a very good offensive dman whose defensive zone play is questionable.
- keaner17

His dzone is fine, he just gets picked about by the media because French Canadians are racist

http://blogs.edmontonjour...ers-for-griffin-reinhart/

Interesting read.

PRoblem with prospects is that you really don't know what they will do at the NHL level. There have been plenty of times guys will look amazing in the AHL just to be nothing in the NHL. Subban I believe has the experience and is a notch above all those guys. Since we have no success in free agency Garth is going to have no choice but to trade for a goalie or a depth forward and or defenseman
- kasperrko

You can say that for late first rounders and beyond, but top five picks, if brought up right, are normal high impact players. Strome is going to be a damn good player. You can see that already. Reinhart, who I was championing long before we drafted him, has the goods and pedigree to be a top pairing dman.

Subban is overrated IMO. He won a Norris which is more of "Best Offensive Dman" but is a bit of a loose canon and his dzone play leaves a bit to be desired.

When articles are done on the NHL's most overrated playes, Subban consistently ends up in them.

you realize this was rumored about 20 days ago right?
- Danformo

No I don't remember seeing anything about that

His dzone is fine, he just gets picked about by the media because French Canadians are racist
- Danformo

No..he gets picked on because he's a bit flamboyant for a typically conservative hockey area. In addition, he has plenty of dzone lapses. Were it not for his offensive production, he would have never sniffed at the Norris. The guy is not a defensive dman.

You can say that for late first rounders and beyond, but top five picks, if brought up right, are normal high impact players. Strome is going to be a damn good player. You can see that already. Reinhart, who I was championing long before we drafted him, has the goods and pedigree to be a top pairing dman.

Subban is overrated IMO. He won a Norris which is more of "Best Offensive Dman" but is a bit of a loose canon and his dzone play leaves a bit to be desired.

When articles are done on the NHL's most overrated playes, Subban consistently ends up in them.
- keaner17

There have been plenty who ended up being busts. It really is all a crap shoot. Subban I still feel can help this team out tremendously on the power play. We need a guy like him. He knows how to win. I understand what you are saying but again you can take the Islander approach and pray that the prospects play amazingly at the NHL level or you can make a trade that will impact the team and maybe just maybe get us over the hump

http://blogs.edmontonjour...ers-for-griffin-reinhart/

Interesting read.
- ystoil

I wouldn't do it if I was the Isles. Reinhart had a very solid camp and there was talk about the Isles keeping him up but decided to send him back at the end of camp. Regardless of what that writer said he is gonna be a good one

There have been plenty who ended up being busts. It really is all a crap shoot. Subban I still feel can help this team out tremendously on the power play. We need a guy like him. He knows how to win. I understand what you are saying but again you can take the Islander approach and pray that the prospects play amazingly at the NHL level or you can make a trade that will impact the team and maybe just maybe get us over the hump
- kasperrko

So you would trade Strome, Reinhart or Pulock plus probably a 1st and something else for Subban?

So you would trade Strome, Reinhart or Pulock plus probably a 1st and something else for Subban?
- Vukota

I think a top prospect maybe amid level prospect and a first gets it done. I would not trade two of those guys but one yeah

We all know how I feel about Snow but remember when he traded for Ryan Smyth? He traded away a couple of prospects at the time and they ended up being busts. Nillson who was in the trade was a top pick and I believe Ryan O'marra was as well. So you never know