I wouldnt even undess her...just pull her panties to the side a bit.
- Jeropotato

I like your style!

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I like your style!

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- XxNYIxX

Lol...go to the Oilers thread...I'm not even considered one of the dirty ones on there.

Lol...go to the Oilers thread...I'm not even considered one of the dirty ones on there.
- Jeropotato

Sounds like my kind of town!!

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There is as much a chance Oilers offer Hall for Subban as the Islanders offering up Tavares. The mere suggestion of this shows your finger is clearly not on the pulse of the Edmonton Oilers, but more or less up your ass.
- Jeropotato

I was not suggesting it would take hall to land subban. God no. Not even close. I was simply trying to state that if 2 or 3 other teams jumped into the mix of trading for subban the asking price could skyrocket quite quickly.

I was not suggesting it would take hall to land subban. God no. Not even close. I was simply trying to state that if 2 or 3 other teams jumped into the mix of trading for subban the asking price could skyrocket quite quickly.
- bast_003

You'll get a decent return, but I think I'd rather see him go somewhere else. I'm not a big fan.

Asking price is said to be top prospect blue chip prospect and a pick. How about this offer. NYI: STROME, PULOCK, COLLBERG/SUNDSTROM and 1st for SUBBAN and 1st. If new york wants to keep 1st cuz they will lose next years. Then how about STROME ,REINHART, COLLBERG/SUNDSTROM/LEE for SUBBAN. reinhart replaces 1st. Still meets the asking price of top prospect. Blue chip dman and a lesser prospect. Many might say thats crazy and it probly is but keep in mind if subban hits the market i guarrantee you 30gms willl enter the mix. And if oilers of hall+ or philly with couturier and schenn you can bet thoses are what it will take from islanders
- bast_003

How about if we through in JT and KO

I agree Dan a player like Subban could have been the difference of another 5 to 10 wins alone
- kasperrko

so could have a legit nhl coach

If you want a top four legit dman you are gonna have to part with someone.. If not you then have to sign some of the guys I mentioned and hope they can fill that roll
- Dan Petriw

Maybe if Garth didn't piss away a 1st pick(Nino) and another one for a UFA(Vanek) it would be easier to pry away the Top dman and or goalie this team desperately needs.
Remember also, there's a black cloud over this team until Wang sells, so there's a risk with any player traded for that isn't locked up at least 3-4 years minimum.

I would love subban, but I didn't wait 8 years of a rebuild, to toss all our home grown talent on an offensive dman. I'd rather have defensive based players. Griffin is a keeper to me.

Grab pk if the price is reasonable. I'd be very hesitant letting strome go also. If pulock, nielsen, and either a pick/prospect gets him, go for it. That's probably no where close enough tho. I understand eventually we will have to let some of our talented kIds go to acquire talent, but I'm not sold on subban like everyone else.

I dunno how you guys feel about it, but after thinking about it for a while I really hate the MacDonald move. Why the frank didnt Snow just pay him. Even if it was an overpayment, he fits the age group of the core and there is no one to fill his shoes on the blue line. And you also have $30 mil in cap to spend next season.

Trading a guy in his prime for draft picks just sets the team back more years. Each pick usually takes about three or four years to develop.

Oates now gone, McAfee too...yet Islanders circus manager Wang keeps GM who has totally failed this team, and Jack once again gets a thumbs up. This entire organization from Wang on down is a farce and is nothing more than a 3 ring circus. Not once in the past 10 years has Wang put an NHL caliber team on the ice...the circus must end, a sale must happen. Wang should be run off the Island.

No question that Kate Murray was the driving force behind the team's move, but then it's obvious that Wang teed off Murray and her mentor D'Amato and both force Wang's hand...but then he owns the team, and has totally failed the organization and it's fans. Sell the freakin' team Charles.

I dunno how you guys feel about it, but after thinking about it for a while I really hate the MacDonald move. Why the frank didnt Snow just pay him. Even if it was an overpayment, he fits the age group of the core and there is no one to fill his shoes on the blue line. And you also have $30 mil in cap to spend next season.

Trading a guy in his prime for draft picks just sets the team back more years. Each pick usually takes about three or four years to develop.
- TheJerseyDevil1

Our team went 11-5-3 after we traded him, because he is crap. If he was being paid $2M a year to be a stay at home defenseman, playing 12 minutes a game, I'd live with him being somewhere between a 5 and a 7, until something better came along, but for $5M a year? I wouldn't pay him $5M a year of Monopoly money, for any reason in the world.

You'll get a decent return, but I think I'd rather see him go somewhere else. I'm not a big fan.
- Isles_since_6

Yeah, I wouldn't mind Subban in exchange for a large check, but once you're talking about players and prospects.....we need to spend our assets on other things WAY before spending them on that type of defensemen.

I dunno how you guys feel about it, but after thinking about it for a while I really hate the MacDonald move. Why the frank didnt Snow just pay him. Even if it was an overpayment, he fits the age group of the core and there is no one to fill his shoes on the blue line. And you also have $30 mil in cap to spend next season.

Trading a guy in his prime for draft picks just sets the team back more years. Each pick usually takes about three or four years to develop.
- TheJerseyDevil1

Amac is a 5/6 defenseman who makes mental mistakes constantly. Very few here wanted him back at half what the Flyers gave him.

How about if we through in JT and KO
- NYI_since_72

I don't think it's an outrageous asking price. Whether I'd pay it is another story, but the value seems about right. It's a risk for Montreal, too. Subban is a high-quality NHL defenseman...not an easy player to come by. Strome and Pulock haven't proven anything yet, and one of Sundstrom or Collberg amounts to a throw-in, really...a future fourth-line center in Sundstrom (who would have to accomplish the unlikely in taking that job from Cizikas) or a longer-shot prospect in Collberg. I'd probably try to either negotiate out swapping the first rounders or at least try to change the structure of that part of the deal.

Put it this way, would you trade Okposo for Strome and Pulock? That's the risk Montreal would be taking trading Subban for them.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind Subban in exchange for a large check, but once you're talking about players and prospects.....we need to spend our assets on other things WAY before spending them on that type of defensemen.
- dcb1

Isn't a top-pair d-man the exact type of thing we should be spending assets on? The problem is we have fewer assets to spend because we blew some on basically what amounts to Collberg.

Isn't a top-pair d-man the exact type of thing we should be spending assets on? The problem is we have fewer assets to spend because we blew some on basically what amounts to Collberg.
- UIF

No suprise but isles will keep this years pick

I don't think it's an outrageous asking price. Whether I'd pay it is another story, but the value seems about right. It's a risk for Montreal, too. Subban is a high-quality NHL defenseman...not an easy player to come by. Strome and Pulock haven't proven anything yet, and one of Sundstrom or Collberg amounts to a throw-in, really...a future fourth-line center in Sundstrom (who would have to accomplish the unlikely in taking that job from Cizikas) or a longer-shot prospect in Collberg. I'd probably try to either negotiate out swapping the first rounders or at least try to change the structure of that part of the deal.

Put it this way, would you trade Okposo for Strome and Pulock? That's the risk Montreal would be taking trading Subban for them.
- UIF

The difference is that okposo is under contract and isn't looking for a massive payday while arguing with his coaching staff

Isn't a top-pair d-man the exact type of thing we should be spending assets on? The problem is we have fewer assets to spend because we blew some on basically what amounts to Collberg.
- UIF

I don't disagree with you in theory but I'm not a fan of subban and have no interest in trading assets for him while he's unsigned.

No suprise but isles will keep this years pick
- Dan Petriw

That would be the biggest mistake they will make. But they've been making those mistakes now for years....


Next year we will suck, and suck some more unless Wang sells and Snow is gone.

That would be the biggest mistake they will make. But they've been making those mistakes now for years....


Next year we will suck, and suck some more unless Wang sells and Snow is gone.
- Ur Not Me

Giving a top 5 pick up is admitting defeat for next season.. Still think they could trade this puck too

Haven't been here in awhile and I'm not reading through all the comments, but I'd take a shot at Nikitin also. Outside of Niskanen there isn't much hope in this year's UFA class.

Giving a top 5 pick up is admitting defeat for next season.. Still think they could trade this puck too
- Dan Petriw

I don't understand how it's admitting defeat at all. The player picked will not have an effect on the roster what so ever. I have absolutely come to loathe snow for putting himself in this position. They need to acquire a first rounder next year. Absolutely stupid move keeping it.