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honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 09.23.2008

Apr 24 @ 1:01 AM ET
Because I meant to use the


- As_I_See_It


Ah hit the post.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:01 AM ET
Besides Phaneuf Gunnarsson the most partnered pairing? There's Franson's problem.
- honesthockey

what?
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Apr 24 @ 1:02 AM ET
what?
- derm10


Who was Fransoons partner mostly? There's the problem. Franson proved he can play sheltered minutes with the right partner. Get him a good one and he will be ok.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:03 AM ET
Besides Phaneuf Gunnarsson the most partnered pairing? There's Franson's problem.
- honesthockey

franson was -20 rielly -13 gardiner -3 dion +2 gunner +12
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Apr 24 @ 1:03 AM ET
franson was -20 rielly -13 gardiner -3 dion +2 gunner +12
- derm10


And?
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:04 AM ET
Who was Fransoons partner mostly? There's the problem. Franson proved he can play sheltered minutes with the right partner. Get him a good one and he will be ok.
- honesthockey

he was the worst partner to have...
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Apr 24 @ 1:04 AM ET
he was the worst partner to have...
- derm10


Proven he can play with a good partner.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:04 AM ET
And?
- honesthockey

everyone did better when they didn't play with him
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:04 AM ET
Proven he can play with a good partner.
- honesthockey

?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 24 @ 1:04 AM ET
cheers ladies and gents
Viktory
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.12.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:05 AM ET
Who was Fransoons partner mostly? There's the problem. Franson proved he can play sheltered minutes with the right partner. Get him a good one and he will be ok.
- honesthockey


Or, instead of making a below average defenseman average by rotating numerous others, just replace him.
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Apr 24 @ 1:05 AM ET
everyone did better when they didn't play with him
- derm10


Like?
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:05 AM ET
Or, instead of making a below average defenseman average by rotating numerous others, just replace him.
- Viktory

exactly
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:05 AM ET
Like?
- honesthockey

franson should be captain
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:06 AM ET
franson should be captain
- derm10

should play franson with fraser
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Apr 24 @ 1:06 AM ET
Or, instead of making a below average defenseman average by rotating numerous others, just replace him.
- Viktory


Agreed now let's talk about the ones That no matter who they partner with they make worse.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:06 AM ET
should play franson with fraser
- derm10

in the ahl
honesthockey
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Apr 24 @ 1:07 AM ET
franson should be captain
- derm10


There we go the answer when you don't have one.
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Apr 24 @ 1:07 AM ET
should play franson with fraser
- derm10


Worked
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:09 AM ET
Who was Fransoons partner mostly? There's the problem. Franson proved he can play sheltered minutes with the right partner. Get him a good one and he will be ok.
- honesthockey


39.99% EV - 51 GARDINER,JAKE
15.19% EV - 44 RIELLY,MORGAN
9.64% PP - 3 PHANEUF,DION
9.5% EV - 8 GLEASON,TIM
5.26% EV - 3 PHANEUF,DION
4.42% EV - 36 GUNNARSSON,CARL
3.92% EV - 15 RANGER,PAUL
2.16% SH - 3 PHANEUF,DION
2.1% EV - 2 FRASER,MARK
1.65% SH - 15 RANGER,PAUL
1.18% SH - 8 GLEASON,TIM

*Pulls pin. Drops grenade. Runs.*
Viktory
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.12.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:10 AM ET
Agreed now let's talk about the ones That no matter who they partner with they make worse.
- honesthockey


Gunnerson. Gardiner to an extent. Ranger, except all his partners except Gleason made him look worse.

Granberg > Gunnerson by the time Granberg gets his feet wet. I think Gunner will be gone.

Let's go out and replace Franson, but who replaces Franson?
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:11 AM ET
Gunnerson. Gardiner to an extent. Ranger, except all his partners except Gleason made him look worse.

Granberg > Gunnerson by the time Granberg gets his feet wet. I think Gunner will be gone.

Let's go out and replace Franson, but who replaces Franson?

- Viktory

the guy u go out and get? or are u lookin for examples?
sloppyseconds2
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.02.2012

Apr 24 @ 1:14 AM ET
39.99% EV - 51 GARDINER,JAKE
15.19% EV - 44 RIELLY,MORGAN
9.64% PP - 3 PHANEUF,DION
9.5% EV - 8 GLEASON,TIM
5.26% EV - 3 PHANEUF,DION
4.42% EV - 36 GUNNARSSON,CARL
3.92% EV - 15 RANGER,PAUL
2.16% SH - 3 PHANEUF,DION
2.1% EV - 2 FRASER,MARK
1.65% SH - 15 RANGER,PAUL
1.18% SH - 8 GLEASON,TIM

*Pulls pin. Drops grenade. Runs.*

- As_I_See_It


Don't even respond to that idiot, waste of time.
Viktory
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.12.2011

Apr 24 @ 1:16 AM ET
the guy u go out and get? or are u lookin for examples?
- derm10


Examples. Next year, if what I believe to be correct, you'll have 4 D in Phaneuf, Rielly, Gardiner, Ranger, Gleason. Then Granberg makes the jump, but I feel we'll see 7 D again this year for the long haul. So, whose number 4-7?
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Apr 24 @ 1:19 AM ET
Examples. Next year, if what I believe to be correct, you'll have 4 D in Phaneuf, Rielly, Gardiner, Ranger, Gleason. Then Granberg makes the jump, but I feel we'll see 7 D again this year for the long haul. So, whose number 4-7?
- Viktory

depends what u trade franson for... if it's a forward or a dman.... i would like i see a vet with a game similar to gleason... would be nice to have a bit more footspeed.. but always it... can't be as bad as franson..... an example .. maybe a bieksa
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