Why doesn't winning matter?

kessel working out?

It is, but sustainability is huge.


Clearly, our method was not sustainable.
- lumlums

It was until a change in philosophy. You know short leashes long leashes?

I believe in the value of advanced stats when it comes to team performance. How's that. Individuals? I can't accept it at this point. Way to many variables when 11 other individuals affect a single individuals numerical performance.

Btw the media were getting their asses handed to them. They now use numbers to try to show their knowledge of the game.

I think it became so apparent during the Olympics how they still can be embarrassed by an overall lack of understanding hockey. Babcock easily won any hockey discussion.
- honesthockey

Hmmmm when 11 other individuals affect a single individuals metric, you can dismiss or at least challenge it EXCEPT for your pet stat about wins vs. losses when Gardiner gets a certain amount of ice time. Contradict yourself much?

kessel working out?
- Dozzer

kessel working out?
- Dozzer

Pumpin them legs

direct insults will be met with bans

that goes for everyone

Hmmmm when 11 other individuals affect a single individuals metric, you can dismiss or at least challenge it EXCEPT for your pet stat about wins vs. losses when Gardiner gets a certain amount of ice time. Contradict yourself much?
- 1979AD

Like I said wins and loses the only thing that matters.

So break it down. Wins and loses when each player plays the MOST on the TEAM. takes everyone into account.

direct insults will be met with bans

that goes for everyone
- Dozzer

its not an insult bruce

i was speaking the truth.

hes 60 in his moms basement, like Chaz from wedding crashers.

i kind of liked the belarusian wine and obama gig too

Why doesn't winning matter?
- honesthockey

Because we're talking about the Leafs.

ZING!

So break it down. Wins and loses when each player plays the MOST on the TEAM. That takes everyone into account.
- honesthockey

The MOST on the TEAM might be 22 out of 60 minutes. I think there might be some things that happen in the remaining 66% of the game that may affect the outcome.

Because we're talking about the Leafs.

ZING!
- Scabeh

Because we're talking about the Leafs.

ZING!
- Scabeh

I guess we gotta try to find positives in individual play.

hit the ! button
- big_dion

- Dozzer

And now I leave forever.

And now I leave forever.
- Scabeh

See ya after lunch.

The MOST on the TEAM might be 22 out of 60 minutes. I think there might be some things that happen in the remaining 66% of the game that may affect the outcome.
- 1979AD

Ah ok so it's ok to use probability for one thing but not the other. And I'm the one contradicting myself?

Corsi is wrong Carlyle is right





- senstroll

Those teams Mac & Grabo went to just rocked this year

I would have like to see Grabo for another year ( playing 2nd line )

But MacArthur sucks

And now I leave forever.
- Scabeh

Ah ok so it's ok to use probability for one thing but not the other. And I'm the one contradicting myself?
- honesthockey

Yes, you are.

Like I said wins and loses the only thing that matters.

So break it down. Wins and loses when each player plays the MOST on the TEAM. takes everyone into account.
- honesthockey

loses

Mike Augello: Leafs Report Card – Defense Part II
- mikeinbuffalo

Just like most teachers... you must have graded these guys on a different day cause your assessments are too far the other direction this time.

It was until a change in philosophy. You know short leashes long leashes?
- honesthockey

Sustainability implies over years, not a couple of dozen games....

Yes, you are.
- 1979AD

But you aren't?

The MOST on the TEAM might be 22 out of 60 minutes. I think there might be some things that happen in the remaining 66% of the game that may affect the outcome.
- 1979AD

C'mon dude ....the stats (traditional or advanced) might show that the Leafs are a better team with Gardiner on the ice (relative to the rest of the D) but you need to factor in that they're extra-bad when he's on the bench. Clearly he's (frank)ing poop up from the bench and causing the Leafs to lose.