Yeah, I don't think it did work...

More stats:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/st...?season=20132014&type=LEA
- Pecafan Fan

Now Bozak has to play nets too?

Head Coach: Randy Carlyle
Assistant Coach: Chris Dennis
Assistant Coach: Greg Cronin
Assistant Coach: Scott Gordon
Assistant Coach: Dave Farrish
Goalie Coach: Rick St. Croix

These guys still around? I need a couple people for the warehouse to cover for staff going on vacations this summer.

if bozak is so good put him on a different line to carry it.

exactly, he cant, cause he chips in his minor bit of offense and ok 2 way play and thats it. riding the coat tails of phil and jvr.

leafs will never, ever win a cup with bozak as the #1c.

end of story

kessel moved... you crazy man!


- robin_steele264

I wouldnt mind if we got seguin and hamilton back

offense from the back end doesnt impress me all that much truthfully.

if a guy can play D, and pitch in on offense then I'm all for it.

but if a guy is weak in his own end his point production doesnt impress me at all.
- Dozzer

well i think that's a bit shortsighted, especially in this day and age where players' possession metrics are tracked so closely. there are guys who are weak in their own end. but if they're able to drive possession and your team generally outplays and outchances the opposition when he's on the ice, there's still value there. whereas it can be the opposite with a stay at home guy. maybe he's more adept defensively, but if you're constantly getting outshot and outplayed with him on the ice (hello, Doug Murray), then that's not good.

i know the crowd in here abhors any kind of advanced stat and i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, i just don't think it's as black and whit as that. please don't ban me.

if bozak is so good put him on a different line to carry it.

exactly, he cant, cause he chips in his minor bit of offense and ok 2 way play and thats it. riding the coat tails of phil and jvr.

leafs will never, ever win a cup with bozak as the #1c.

end of story
- big_dion

He can't? How do you know this?

Without him there the line dies been proven over and over again.

if bozak is so good put him on a different line to carry it.

exactly, he cant, cause he chips in his minor bit of offense and ok 2 way play and thats it. riding the coat tails of phil and jvr.

leafs will never, ever win a cup with bozak as the #1c.

end of story
- big_dion

Good morning

He's the best we have.

49 points in 58 games not too shabby



Be nice if we could upgrade - line 1 is not our biggest problem.

well i think that's a bit shortsighted, especially in this day and age where players' possession metrics are tracked so closely. there are guys who are weak in their own end. but if they're able to drive possession and your team generally outplays and outchances the opposition when he's on the ice, there's still value there. whereas it can be the opposite with a stay at home guy. maybe he's more adept defensively, but if you're constantly getting outshot and outplayed with him on the ice (hello, Doug Murray), then that's not good.

i know the crowd in here abhors any kind of advanced stat and i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, i just don't think it's as black and whit as that. please don't ban me.
- DoubleDown

I'm all for driving possession if it's the right players driving it. Possession turning into goals turning into wins is of value.

He can't? How do you know this?

Without him there the line dies been proven over and over again.
- honesthockey

He's an insider

I'm all for driving possession if it's the right players driving it. Possession turning into goals turning into wins is of value.
- honesthockey

yes and this is where context comes into play and individual stats can be flawed. is it that player driving the play? or is he just playing with players who do? anyway like i said, i'm just pointing out that it's not black and white.

yes and this is where context comes into play and individual stats can be flawed. is it that player driving the play? or is he just playing with players who do? anyway like i said, i'm just pointing out that it's not black and white.
- DoubleDown

Still a few guys in the hab thread calling for Ron Macleans 's head?

I'm confused ...aren't they both selected?

http://www.tsn.ca/canadia..._hockey/feature/?id=63060

Not that I really give a poop either way.
- The Law

Scrivens Riemer goalie tandem

Couldnt make the leafs. Plays team canada

well i think that's a bit shortsighted, especially in this day and age where players' possession metrics are tracked so closely. there are guys who are weak in their own end. but if they're able to drive possession and your team generally outplays and outchances the opposition when he's on the ice, there's still value there. whereas it can be the opposite with a stay at home guy. maybe he's more adept defensively, but if you're constantly getting outshot and outplayed with him on the ice (hello, Doug Murray), then that's not good.

i know the crowd in here abhors any kind of advanced stat and i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, i just don't think it's as black and whit as that. please don't ban me.
- DoubleDown

agree
I think every leaf fans views of the D is a little skewed after this past season. Everyone looked bad. i put most of it on the coach myself.. other blame all the D as just sucking

prolly wouldnt do all that well on the big ice tho

doesnt have the wheels.. its all he can do to keep up on NHL ice
- Dozzer

It's tricking us. Just likes to keep 1 stride ahead. I call it being efficient

- Dozzer

Saw him at Massey Hall a few weeks ago and he was AMAZING! Buddy Guy is a living legend.

Head Coach: Randy Carlyle
Assistant Coach: Chris Dennis
Assistant Coach: Greg Cronin
Assistant Coach: Scott Gordon
Assistant Coach: Dave Farrish
Goalie Coach: Rick St. Croix

These guys still around? I need a couple people for the warehouse to cover for staff going on vacations this summer.
- Woderwick

thanks for the rick st. croix sighting

if bozak is so good put him on a different line to carry it.

exactly, he cant, cause he chips in his minor bit of offense and ok 2 way play and thats it. riding the coat tails of phil and jvr.

leafs will never, ever win a cup with bozak as the #1c.

end of story
- big_dion

I think you underestimate him. He basically is a super defender. He's gotta make up for Kessels Ovechkin like defense. Guy doesn't do poop unless he (frank)ed up of realizes hes got to because no1 else is there.

agree
I think every leaf fans views of the D is a little skewed after this past season. Everyone looked bad. i put most of it on the coach myself.. other blame all the D as just sucking
- senstroll

i think defensive corps are like goalies. they get too much credit and too much blame, because in reality, like everything in hockey these days, it's all about the 5-man unit. the good defensive teams in the league are good not just because they have 3 good pairings, but because their forwards are committed to the cause.

Saw him at Massey Hall a few weeks ago and he was AMAZING! Buddy Guy is a living legend.
- As_I_See_It

NICE!!

i think defensive corps are like goalies. they get too much credit and too much blame, because in reality, like everything in hockey these days, it's all about the 5-man unit. the good defensive teams in the league are good not just because they have 3 good pairings, but because their forwards are committed to the cause.
- DoubleDown

(frank) that.. its all on harold schneps

every single problem in hockey can be traced to him

i mean look at this bumhole

(frank) that.. its all on harold schneps

every single problem in hockey can be traced to him

i mean look at this bumhole




- Dozzer

love the sweet Cooper gauntlets

love the sweet Cooper gauntlets
- DoubleDown

i think defensive corps are like goalies. they get too much credit and too much blame, because in reality, like everything in hockey these days, it's all about the 5-man unit. the good defensive teams in the league are good not just because they have 3 good pairings, but because their forwards are committed to the cause.
- DoubleDown

the players are committed to what RC tells them.. you can see they all do it.. it just doesnt work well. the solution is to tell the players to do it harder.

I read a great breakdown last week on it... I cant post it here
if the leafs could just get back to being a 48% possession team instead of 41 that would make a big difference

the players are committed to what RC tells them.. you can see they all do it.. it just doesnt work well. the solution is to tell the players to do it harder.

I read a great breakdown last week on it... I cant post it here
if the leafs could just get back to being a 48% possession team instead of 41 that would make a big difference
- senstroll

That's crap! The players can't do what is requested.

The only way you get to a better possession team is to win puck battles. The players in this lineup can't do that. Coach can only give you the ideas. You have to be able to perform them.

the players are committed to what RC tells them.. you can see they all do it.. it just doesnt work well. the solution is to tell the players to do it harder.

I read a great breakdown last week on it... I cant post it here
if the leafs could just get back to being a 48% possession team instead of 41 that would make a big difference
- senstroll

well... no kidding.