Someone there is getting moved...regardless of what Avs fans think. They aren't a Cap team, and they need to address their defense this summer. Looking at opportunities on other teams isn't grasping...it's prudent. You don't think other teams aren't looking at our roster and wondering who they can pick off cheaply?
- djamon

He's not coming to Toronto then.

i mean which guy did holland get signed on the cheap?
- Dozzer

Holland signed a few great deals under the premise that "nobody makes more than Lidstrom" and how could players are against that? Holland set his table with Lidstrom's deal. Lidstrom wasn't a greedy player and probably also recognized that it would be a part of his legacy (who knows, it may have been sold to him that way as well?). It was only after NL retired that "big money" was handed out to Datsyuk at $7.5M until 2016 and I don't think there are many who would say that Pavel isn't worth that.

Cheaps deals:
- Datysuk: Mentioned above
- Zetterberg: Cap of ~$6M until 2021... That deal is only going to get better
- Krowall: Cap of ONLY $4.75M until 2018!
- Franzen: Cap of $3.95M until 2020
- Howard: Cap of $5.2M until 2018

All of those are cap friendly deals and excellent value for the players in question.

Someone there is getting moved...regardless of what Avs fans think. They aren't a Cap team, and they need to address their defense this summer. Looking at opportunities on other teams isn't grasping...it's prudent. You don't think other teams aren't looking at our roster and wondering who they can pick off cheaply?
- djamon

They can have them.

Someone there is getting moved...regardless of what Avs fans think. They aren't a Cap team, and they need to address their defense this summer. Looking at opportunities on other teams isn't grasping...it's prudent. You don't think other teams aren't looking at our roster and wondering who they can pick off cheaply?
- djamon

Avs can be a cap team if they want to and all signs are pointing towarsd that, they have the resources to be with Kroenke (Owns Avs, Nuggets, St Louis Rams, Arsenal FC and married to one of the Walmart heiress). Now that one of the sons have invested interest in the team since he has joined as Team President, they long term big money extentions started.

We wont be near the bottom towards the cap floor anymore.

We have cap space, we can pay their worth, we have Duchene, Landy, Varly, Johnson already signed to reasonable deails, we can qualifty ROR since we still own his rights, question mark is Stastny, he has been open about wanting to resign for a discount, Avs said they made an offer and are planning to talk more once the season is done.

We can resign both its not out of the question.
- DDM-Coga

i never once said you couldnt

i just pointed out that ROR's qualifying offer is 6.5 million

some of your av fan brethren cant seem to accept it.

Avs can be a cap team if they want to and all signs are pointing towarsd that, they have the resources to be with Kroenke (Owns Avs, Nuggets, St Louis Rams, Arsenal FC and married to one of the Walmart heiress). Now that one of the sons have invested interest in the team since he has joined as Team President, they long term big money extentions started.

We wont be near the bottom towards the cap floor anymore.
- DDM-Coga

We are talkin Billions.. Avs will be a dynasty.

uhh Colin, they they trade pieces for O Reily how the fuk are they going to get Malkin?

i never once said you couldnt

i just pointed out that ROR's qualifying offer is 6.5 million

some of your av fan brethren cant seem to accept it.
- Dozzer

He will get paid 6.5m next season salary wise, but I think an average cap hit of 6m over a long term deal is fair, he will be getting paid comfortably.

i never once said you couldnt

i just pointed out that ROR's qualifying offer is 6.5 million

some of your av fan brethren cant seem to accept it.
- Dozzer

No, he was the one, your talking to the right guy. He just knows the situation better than you do Doz.

Holland signed a few great deals under the premise that "nobody makes more than Lidstrom" and how could players are against that? Holland set his table with Lidstrom's deal. Lidstrom wasn't a greedy player and probably also recognized that it would be a part of his legacy (who knows, it may have been sold to him that way as well?). It was only after NL retired that "big money" was handed out to Datsyuk at $7.5M until 2016 and I don't think there are many who would say that Pavel isn't worth that.

Cheaps deals:
- Datysuk: Mentioned above
- Zetterberg: Cap of ~$6M until 2021... That deal is only going to get better
- Krowall: Cap of ONLY $4.75M until 2018!
- Franzen: Cap of $3.95M until 2020
- Howard: Cap of $5.2M until 2018

All of those are cap friendly deals and excellent value for the players in question.
- As_I_See_It

zetterberg is at 6 million.. that puts him in the ballpark i am talking about
datsyuk's cap hit goes up to 7.5 next year as you mentioned.

my point is... ROR is already making 5.. its going to take more than half a mill to get him to walk from what is guaranteed to him.

my guess is you sign him for 5 years for 32.5million

its doable.. never once said it wasnt.

Avs can be a cap team if they want to and all signs are pointing towarsd that, they have the resources to be with Kroenke (Owns Avs, Nuggets, St Louis Rams, Arsenal FC and married to one of the Walmart heiress). Now that one of the sons have invested interest in the team since he has joined as Team President, they long term big money extentions started.

We wont be near the bottom towards the cap floor anymore.
- DDM-Coga

Maybe not...a long playoff run would certainly help I guess. I can only go by your recent history.

He will get paid 6.5m next season salary wise, but I think an average cap hit of 6m over a long term deal is fair, he will be getting paid comfortably.
- DDM-Coga

trust me.. his agent isnt interested in fair.. nor is the union members

if these guys start giving out discounts it undermines the rest of their union members

like i said.. 5 for 6.5 per. thats my guess

zetterberg is at 6 million.. that puts him in the ballpark i am talking about
datsyuk's cap hit goes up to 7.5 next year as you mentioned.

my point is... ROR is already making 5.. its going to take more than half a mill to get him to walk from what is guaranteed to him.

my guess is you sign him for 5 years for 32.5million

its doable.. never once said it wasnt.
- Dozzer

what he doesnt know is that Howard sucks and is overpaid at that price
Franzen is a fuking Clarkson-like ghost
but yes, the others are good

No, he was the one, your talking to the right guy. He just knows the situation better than you do Doz.
- bixll

ok now i'm lost lol

Maybe not...a long playoff run would certainly help I guess. I can only go by your recent history.
- djamon

Holy FRANK, I hope nobody goes by our recent history...

trust me.. his agent isnt interested in fair.. nor is the union members

if these guys start giving out discounts it undermines the rest of their union members

like i said.. 5 for 6.5 per. thats my guess
- Dozzer

He doesnt make more than Duchene or 1m more than Landy. He will get the same contract as Duchene. But if we have to keep him for that, 500k more a season, eff it you do it. The guy is too skilled not to, close to 30g/60pts, lead the league again in take aways, those guys dont grow on trees

ok now i'm lost lol
- Dozzer

Here is the reply from him. to you.

We have cap space, we can pay their worth, we have Duchene, Landy, Varly, Johnson already signed to reasonable deails, we can qualifty ROR since we still own his rights, question mark is Stastny, he has been open about wanting to resign for a discount, Avs said they made an offer and are planning to talk more once the season is done.

We can resign both its not out of the question.

what he doesnt know is that Howard sucks and is overpaid at that price
Franzen is a fuking Clarkson-like ghost
but yes, the others are good
- Jurco_28

the other thing to consider is when they signed their deals

if they were to sign this summer.. they would be earning one hell of a lot more.

Here is the reply from him. to you.

We have cap space, we can pay their worth, we have Duchene, Landy, Varly, Johnson already signed to reasonable deails, we can qualifty ROR since we still own his rights, question mark is Stastny, he has been open about wanting to resign for a discount, Avs said they made an offer and are planning to talk more once the season is done.

We can resign both its not out of the question.
- bixll

didnt i agree to that? thought i did.

He doesnt make more than Duchene or 1m more than Landy. He will get the same contract as Duchene. But if we have to keep him for that, 500k more a season, eff it you do it. The guy is too skilled not to, close to 30g/60pts, lead the league again in take aways, those guys dont grow on trees
- DDM-Coga

I agree totally. And, after the year they have had, Paul Stastny wants to stay and win.

Maybe not...a long playoff run would certainly help I guess. I can only go by your recent history.
- djamon

Kroenke was cheap for awhile since he was busy with obtaining the majority shares in Arsenal and buying the Rams. WHen the Nuggets were doing so well, we were the 4th on hsi depth chart. But now with the Nuggets being crappy again, and his deals down with Rams and Arsenal he has an invested interest again in the Avs

He doesnt make more than Duchene or 1m more than Landy. He will get the same contract as Duchene. But if we have to keep him for that, 500k more a season, eff it you do it. The guy is too skilled not to, close to 30g/60pts, lead the league again in take aways, those guys dont grow on trees
- DDM-Coga

all he has to do is wait til July 1 and he gets 6.5

the avs would be foolish not to pay it too. go long terms at that.. the kid will get better and by the end of the deal he'd be a huge bargain

i wouldnt be shocked if the avs offered him 6.5 per over 8 years.. not one bit

the other thing to consider is when they signed their deals

if they were to sign this summer.. they would be earning one hell of a lot more.
- Dozzer

uhh howard would get basically wht he got then.
franzen would get more on the cap hit cuz he wouldnt be able to sign the same type of cap circumventing deal like he did then

didnt i agree to that? thought i did.
- Dozzer

At the end of the day, everyone wanted out of Colorado last year. They were like the Leafs, losing year after year.

Now after the draft of MacKinnon, and the year that has followed, they all want to stay.

So, they will all sign, all make big money and win together. MY opinion only.

UFA Good Possibilities:

Orpik
Stastny
Willie Mitchell

RFA Swaps:

Gudbranson

Trade Possibilities:

Spezza
Mike Richards (rumors), possibly duo trade with Carter
Giordano
Bieksa
Weber??? (rumors)
Ovie??? (rumors)
E.Kane
Ladd
Bogosian