my bad, I think the issue now revolves around who ek thinks is a top dman
- Flyfreaky

it's all essentially moot.

we're spending our time guessing who he's referring to in his made up rumour.

alot

murray isn't a top 2 bonafide stud yet. and may never be. and before he ever played a game in the show, it was even more of a question.
at that point (as well as now) they needed immediate help for this core who needs wins and confidence.
defence was already the strength of edms prospect group (even before nurse), while they have almost no bonafide forwards in the system

blah blah blah, i could go on and on, but its always the same with the conventional wisdom. it really doesn't require alot of knowledge. there are many reasons why they didn't take murray, and theres also no guarantee they've chosen wrong.
- hugefemale dog77

Oilers would still suck. Murray would be labeled as an injury prone bust and folks would crap on the Oilers for passing up a player with elite skill like Yak.

Where the (frank) is Monahan?
- TandA4Flames

He could be anywhere right now, lol Great season but not in the top three unless you are a homer with no clue about the nhl.

it's all essentially moot.

we're spending our time guessing who he's referring to in his made up rumour.
- hugefemale dog77

don't we ever learn

How about Coburn, Vinny, Laughton, and our 1st for Hall and your 1st, it would totally work in NHL 14, therefore it would work in real life, right?
- Girouxsalem90

exactly!

Oilers would still suck. Murray would be labeled as an injury prone bust and folks would crap on the Oilers for passing up a player with elite skill like Yak.
- robin_steele264

this.


after yaks led rooks in goals and points while murray missed the whole season, it would read something like this;

"you guys are idiots. who passes up on a guy with that much talent for a complete bandaid?? "

He could be anywhere right now, lol Great season but not in the top three unless you are a homer with no clue about the nhl.
- flyerdude17

Jacob Trouba could be there as well

don't we ever learn
- Flyfreaky

we don't

i know it's complete bs. i even posted the possible scenarios hes trying to pawn off on us to make the rumour seem plausible.

but yet im still posting...

well if they're looking to trade for a top-2 dmen, what's so stupid about asking why they didn't draft one when they had the chance?
- DoubleDown

What makes Ryan Murray that much better than the log jam of solid defensive prospects that we already have? Nurse, Klefbom, Marnicin......

Please explain to me how much more useful an injured Ryan Murray would have been better for our club. Did you happen to see how well Marincin played during the season after he was called up?

Also, please explain how a rookie dman is now already a top-2 dman.

(frank) no...
- saskoil21

Coburn might be the best the oilers can get. The teams in the playoffs are contending teams. No contending team is giving away a top 2 blue liner because they won't be contending any longer. Teams not in the playoffs are not their because of their blueline, except for Nashville. Only Holmgren is dumb enough to do that deal as MacDonald Streit would be the flyers top pairing. So the flyers would be trading away a playoff appearance next year for Eberle and to move up in a weak draft. Sounds like a Holmgren trade to me.

Coburn might be the best the oilers can get. The teams in the playoffs are contending teams. No contending team is giving away a top 2 blue liner because they won't be contending any longer. Teams not in the playoffs are not their because of their blueline, except for Nashville. Only Holmgren is dumb enough to do that deal as MacDonald Streit would be the flyers top pairing. So the flyers would be trading away a playoff appearance next year for Eberle and to move up in a weak draft. Sounds like a Holmgren trade to me.
- psuhockey

the flyers are the team that needs to be in the hunt for a 1-2 dman

Coburn might be the best the oilers can get. The teams in the playoffs are contending teams. No contending team is giving away a top 2 blue liner because they won't be contending any longer. Teams not in the playoffs are not their because of their blueline, except for Nashville. Only Holmgren is dumb enough to do that deal as MacDonald Streit would be the flyers top pairing. So the flyers would be trading away a playoff appearance next year for Eberle and to move up in a weak draft. Sounds like a Holmgren trade to me.
- psuhockey

and on the flip side, even if Coburn was the best the oilers could get;
they wouldn't give the 3rd overall AND eberle for Coburn and a significant move down.

im not even sure they do eberle straight up. let alone add a lottery pick to the deal!

the 3rd alone straight up maybe

Yep. If it's a Penguins defender, it's Letang. Dump his salary, sign Niskanen, bring up the youth.

Scuds. What's up there? An early exit from the playoffs for the Kings and maybe we can send him back? Or maybe to the Islanders who are moving to Brooklyn (he's from Long Island).

And Trotz will replace Bylsma.

I think at least one of those is going to happen.
- coohill

I would LOVE to see Letang dealt...

I would LOVE to see Letang dealt...
- mventres

No one wants his contract and medical bills...

No one wants his contract and medical bills...
- elcabong

That and you can't really use Letang to sell tickets if you're in a market starving for star power.

Maybe Letang will end up playing for the Panthers or Islanders so that they can make the cap floor.

Leafs lunch likes the Jackets. Jackpot.

From a source..." the Edmonton Oilers are putting together a major package for a big time top two defenseman on a team that is still playing in the NHL playoffs... This trade would include their first round selection, plus a major player and would return the defender and a first and second round pick."

Given their oft-rumored interest last year:

Philly receives:
#3
Jordan Eberle


Edmonton receives:
Braydon Coburn
PHI #1
PHI #2

?
- dilbert719

Done deal

No one wants his contract and medical bills...
- elcabong

Semi-agree. A desperate team like an EDM may take a risk...it's more of something I'd like to see vs something I think I will see though...

It's possible, Amac is playing very solid D and could step into coburns role relatively seamlessly, and it would open up a slot for Gus to get some consistent playing time, we also have a few guys that are probably ready to make the jump up from the minors (mainly Alt, Ghost and Morin are possible too but I would rather us take a slow approach to their development.)
- Girouxsalem90

It is crazy that you think Amac is playing well. He is directly responsible for at least two goals against in the NYR series. Did you see him get burned by Carcillo? I know you are going to say Carcillo had a step on him, but he didn't. Watch it again. They start at the same point. Amac is just way out of position.

why didn't they just draft Ryan Murray?
- DoubleDown

Because Ryan Murray has proven jack to this point... Yakupov even with his slump this year >Murray

MacKinnon
Hertl
Johnson

HM: Palat, Murray, Barkov, Maatta, Monahan

Even in a bad draft year, third overall is a substantial offer. The Dman coming back would have to near elite. Can't be Subban as Montreal fans would not allow it. Top 2, suggests there is another DMan on the team who has a higher profile.

and on the flip side, even if Coburn was the best the oilers could get;
they wouldn't give the 3rd overall AND eberle for Coburn and a significant move down.

im not even sure they do eberle straight up. let alone add a lottery pick to the deal!

the 3rd alone straight up maybe
- hugefemale dog77

Sadly Edmonton is in a tough spot. Free agents generally don't want to go there, not that there are any good ones this offseason anyway. The fans are practically in revolt. Another year at the bottom would be a tough sell for management, which is ironic with how stacked the 2015 draft is. They will have to do something and NHL teams don't give away good defensemen.

I agree that 3rd overall pick is fair value but the flyers, or any team for that matter have no reason to do it because it makes them worst next year. Eberle, or someone else who can significantly contribute next season, would have to be added to any deal. The Sabres are the only team willing to tank next season before it even starts.

Coburn might be the best the oilers can get. The teams in the playoffs are contending teams. No contending team is giving away a top 2 blue liner because they won't be contending any longer. Teams not in the playoffs are not their because of their blueline, except for Nashville. Only Holmgren is dumb enough to do that deal as MacDonald Streit would be the flyers top pairing. So the flyers would be trading away a playoff appearance next year for Eberle and to move up in a weak draft. Sounds like a Holmgren trade to me.
- psuhockey

This is an Eklund rumor- you know that right?

Semi-agree. A desperate team like an EDM may take a risk...it's more of something I'd like to see vs something I think I will see though...
- mventres

If the Pens want to trade him away, they'll have plenty of takers, no problem. His medical condition wasn't career threatening and he's still considered top 10, IMO.

and on the flip side, even if Coburn was the best the oilers could get;
they wouldn't give the 3rd overall AND eberle for Coburn and a significant move down.

im not even sure they do eberle straight up. let alone add a lottery pick to the deal!

the 3rd alone straight up maybe
- hugefemale dog77

This... and thats a maybe...