why didn't they just draft Ryan Murray?

I knew I was forgetting someone. Of course, add him in.
- elcabong

not that he will be moved but he has to be on that list.

Figured it was an oversight

I knew I was forgetting someone. Of course, add him in.
- elcabong

No Pietrangelo? Really?
- sycsam

And Vlasic. Among others.

why didn't they just draft Ryan Murray?
- DoubleDown

stupid post.

Prior experience and age should have no bearing on determining who had the best season as a first-year NHL player. But it is a bit more impressive.
- jmatchett383

It for sure comes into the equation, the 23 year old vs 18 year old conversation comes into ever Calder race,

not a chance

maybe the 3rd alone. or eberle alone (not even sure about that)
for
Coburn alone

but i don't see how we benefit from adding the other major piece to move significantly lower in the first and add a second. and all in a supposedly fairly weak draft

change eberle to gagner and take out your second rounder
- hugefemale dog77

I would do either of those deals in a heartbeat. Maybe not Gagner and your first for Coby and our first, but thats only because we have quite the log jam at center, and laughton is most likely going to complicate that even further next year.

I would do either of those deals in a heartbeat. Maybe not Gagner and your first for Coby and our first, but thats only because we have quite the log jam at center, and laughton is most likely going to complicate that even further next year.
- Girouxsalem90

Well, if it makes it easier, then you could just give him to us

stupid post.
- ChetManly

well if they're looking to trade for a top-2 dmen, what's so stupid about asking why they didn't draft one when they had the chance?

I saw a video of L.A's mascot tackling San Jose mascot last night on CBC i can't find it anywhere. Can anyone help me out? It was hilarious

I would do either of those deals in a heartbeat. Maybe not Gagner and your first for Coby and our first, but thats only because we have quite the log jam at center, and laughton is most likely going to complicate that even further next year.
- Girouxsalem90

as i said, really not sure if id do the ebs straight up, but id really consider the 3rd.

do u think holmer does though? he'd be weakening one of your weaker positions further. and theres a good chance ekblad is gone by 3 too

Well, if it makes it easier, then you could just give him to us
- ChetManly

How about Coburn, Vinny, Laughton, and our 1st for Hall and your 1st, it would totally work in NHL 14, therefore it would work in real life, right?

I could see s.weber getting moved and d.doughty as well if the kings tank

I could see s.weber getting moved and d.doughty as well if the kings tank
- Flyfreaky

Doughty??? not a chance. Weber? maybe, but unlikely.

I could see s.weber getting moved and d.doughty as well if the kings tank
- Flyfreaky

IF

as i said, really not sure if id do the ebs straight up, but id really consider the 3rd.

do u think holmer does though? he'd be weakening one of your weaker positions further. and theres a good chance ekblad is gone by 3 too
- hugefemale dog77

It's possible, Amac is playing very solid D and could step into coburns role relatively seamlessly, and it would open up a slot for Gus to get some consistent playing time, we also have a few guys that are probably ready to make the jump up from the minors (mainly Alt, Ghost and Morin are possible too but I would rather us take a slow approach to their development.)

well if they're looking to trade for a top-2 dmen, what's so stupid about asking why they didn't draft one when they had the chance?
- DoubleDown

alot

murray isn't a top 2 bonafide stud yet. and may never be. and before he ever played a game in the show, it was even more of a question.
at that point (as well as now) they needed immediate help for this core who needs wins and confidence.
defence was already the strength of edms prospect group (even before nurse), while they have almost no bonafide forwards in the system

blah blah blah, i could go on and on, but its always the same with the conventional wisdom. it really doesn't require alot of knowledge. there are many reasons why they didn't take murray, and theres also no guarantee they've chosen wrong.

I could see s.weber getting moved and d.doughty as well if the kings tank
- Flyfreaky

Weber not allowed....playoff teams.

Doughty??? not a chance. Weber? maybe, but unlikely.
- DoubleDown

yeah I'm with you, can't see any team trading a top dman

letang will be traded but I'm not putting him in that category due to his health issues

How about Coburn, Vinny, Laughton, and our 1st for Hall and your 1st, it would totally work in NHL 14, therefore it would work in real life, right?
- Girouxsalem90

thank u for adding that nhl 14 part.

neither hall nor the nuge will be moved for any realistic package.

From a source..." the Edmonton Oilers are putting together a major package for a big time top two defenseman on a team that is still playing in the NHL playoffs... This trade would include their first round selection, plus a major player and would return the defender and a first and second round pick."

Given their oft-rumored interest last year:

Philly receives:
#3
Jordan Eberle

Edmonton receives:
Braydon Coburn
PHI #1
PHI #2

?
- dilbert719

(frank) no...

Weber not allowed....playoff teams.
- elcabong

my bad, I think the issue now revolves around who ek thinks is a top dman

(frank) no...
- saskoil21

you can have Downie and h.gill as well

a) Pens have to trade Letang. Can't have 1/3 of the cap tied up in three players these days. His return will be much lower than it would have been last summer since his medical/injury history is shocking and he's continually doing silly things on the ice, but it's got to be done. I don't think they can get a high first plus a former first overall for Letang but considering that Letang was a third-rounder, his return will still be handsome.

Side bar: Niskanen is simply more effective than Letang. Letang doesn't play PK, doesn't play match-up or number-one minutes, and suffers diminishing returns in the playoffs on the PP. The Pens with Letang have potential for otherworldly offense on the ice at one time; without him, it's still stellar.

b) Pittsburgh doesn't need any more skill. If they play Jokinen as 3rd line C, they have scoring on three lines. The Penguins need to be far more balanced and simply meaner to the opposition. The Penguins need players who play like Kirk Muller or Adam Deadmarsh.

c) The coaching staff, on top of the on-ice stagnation in team development, has allowed a culture of becoming unhinged with no consequences to poison the team. Letang, Malkin, and Neal are the main culprits. James Neal needs to be reigned in in a big way: Less Dale Hunter, More Patrick Sharp. The odds of that happening when his centre becomes unglued if the first half of the game goes awry are slim.

Side bar: Anyone who thinks that Pittsburgh needs Yakupov to help Malkin feel better about things will cause me to question man's status as nature's final word. Malkin's future with the team interests me less and less as time goes by.

stupid post.
- ChetManly

par for the course with him