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Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 23 @ 12:24 PM ET
Dude, seriously, after what Read did?? Your usually a smarter poster than this.
- mdw7413

It's true though? It's a rule in the book and Hagelin clearly didn't have it tied down. That's all...
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:26 PM ET
It's true though? It's a rule in the book and Hagelin clearly didn't have it tied down. That's all...
- Flyers_V88

Its also a rule that intentional shots to the head are illegal as well.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:27 PM ET
It's true though? It's a rule in the book and Hagelin clearly didn't have it tied down. That's all...
- Flyers_V88


I betcha you could jump 75% of the finesse players in the NHL just start beating the hell out of them and you'll find that they don't have their jerseys tied down too.

If the league was so absolutely 100% literal in following that rule seems like a good way to get a good hockey player thrown out anytime you want
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 23 @ 12:28 PM ET
Its also a rule that intentional shots to the head are illegal as well.
- Blueshirts4ever

And...? Was there anything even REMOTELY mentioning that play or the players involved? No, there wasn't. I'm talking about the jersey not being tied down, that's it...
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
So far in the playoffs, Lundqvist has a .930 save percentage and a 1.68 GAA

Ya, he is a crappy playoff performer
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 23 @ 12:29 PM ET
It's true though? It's a rule in the book and Hagelin clearly didn't have it tied down. That's all...
- Flyers_V88


I'm not disagreeing, but to pick that out, and say we are fortunate, come on. Voracek started the whole thing by jumping Hagelin, and Read got away with a deliberate head shot. You guys got the breaks in reffing last night, like we did in game 2.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
And...? Was there anything even REMOTELY mentioning that play or the players involved? No, there wasn't. I'm talking about the jersey not being tied down, that's it...
- Flyers_V88

And...I'm talking about the non-call on Read, the point being neither was enforced
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Apr 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
If there was ever a time when the hockey gods decided to intervene, it was last night after Carcillo got mugged and then given a bullpoop call for one of the best defensive plays I've seen in recent memory.

Now crush the flyers, then the Pens, then the Bruins on your way to the finals.

this team is way better than it has been in recent years, with Nash/Stepan and the Richards/St Louis combos clicking.
DONMURDOCH14
New York Rangers
Joined: 04.21.2009

Apr 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
Not to start a war in here, but you guys were fortunate that it wasnt a fight that was called between Voracek and Hagelin... Hagelin dropped the gloves and started to go with Voracek after the flurry or whatever it was Voracek was doing.

The fight, albeit a lopsided one, ended when Hagelins jersey was pulled up over his head. By rule, if a player does not have his jersey tied down during a fight, he is to be ejected from the game.

- jak521



Vorachek instigated that whole thing He also threw a vicious crosscheck at hagelins head that luckily missed. He was such a wussy for going after Hagelin anyway.
beuka23
New York Rangers
Location: long island, NY
Joined: 04.28.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
And...? Was there anything even REMOTELY mentioning that play or the players involved? No, there wasn't. I'm talking about the jersey not being tied down, that's it...
- Flyers_V88



is it absolute that it didn't snap??
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
If there was ever a time when the hockey gods decided to intervene, it was last night after Carcillo got mugged and then given a bullpoop call for one of the best defensive plays I've seen in recent memory.

Now crush the flyers, then the Pens, then the Bruins on your way to the finals.

this team is way better than it has been in recent years, with Nash/Stepan and the Richards/St Louis combos clicking.

- TommyDeVito


we got Martin St. Louis
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
I'm not disagreeing, but to pick that out, and say we are fortunate, come on. Voracek started the whole thing by jumping Hagelin, and Read got away with a deliberate head shot. You guys got the breaks in reffing last night, like we did in game 2.
- mdw7413

Carcillo is not going to get you ANY calls from the refs, that's a guarantee. So that head-shot will go unpunished, guaranteed. I'm merely saying Hagelin should have been ejected... I didn't say we'd win as a result, or the game would have been profoundly different, just that he got lucky there.
Blueshirts4ever
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.13.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
If there was ever a time when the hockey gods decided to intervene, it was last night after Carcillo got mugged and then given a bullpoop call for one of the best defensive plays I've seen in recent memory.

Now crush the flyers, then the Pens, then the Bruins on your way to the finals.

this team is way better than it has been in recent years, with Nash/Stepan and the Richards/St Louis combos clicking.

- TommyDeVito

I agree the Rangers have been better but these two aren't a combo as of right now. Maybe the coach re-unites them especially now that MSL is going!
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
If there was ever a time when the hockey gods decided to intervene, it was last night after Carcillo got mugged and then given a bullpoop call for one of the best defensive plays I've seen in recent memory.

Now crush the flyers, then the Pens, then the Bruins on your way to the finals.

this team is way better than it has been in recent years, with Nash/Stepan and the Richards/St Louis combos clicking.

- TommyDeVito


St Louis has been playing with Step & Nash. I hope it goes the way you are saying though.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:33 PM ET
Carcillo is not going to get you ANY calls from the refs, that's a guarantee. So that head-shot will go unpunished, guaranteed. I'm merely saying Hagelin should have been ejected... I didn't say we'd win as a result, or the game would have been profoundly different, just that he got lucky there.
- Flyers_V88


if the play was called as it "should have been called"

Voracek gets a major for fighting

Carcillo gets no penalty, Hagelin gets no penalty, just a game misconduct

we have a 5 minute powerplay
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Apr 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
we got Martin St. Louis
- jimbo83


That you did, and he will be worth every bit of that package.
DONMURDOCH14
New York Rangers
Joined: 04.21.2009

Apr 23 @ 12:34 PM ET
if the play was called as it "should have been called"

Voracek gets a major for fighting

Carcillo gets no penalty, Hagelin gets no penalty, just a game misconduct

we have a 5 minute powerplay

- jimbo83




yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
cranford93
New York Rangers
Location: "For Whatever Reason"
Joined: 04.30.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:35 PM ET
So far in the playoffs, Lundqvist has a .930 save percentage and a 1.68 GAA

Ya, he is a crappy playoff performer

- Blueshirts4ever

He'll get no credit for last night though, the morons from both our fan base and other will point to blocked shots and they didn't need him anyway, it's a joke
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 23 @ 12:35 PM ET
if the play was called as it "should have been called"

Voracek gets a major for fighting

Carcillo gets no penalty, Hagelin gets no penalty, just a game misconduct

we have a 5 minute powerplay

- jimbo83

No... Watch the video again, Hagelin drops his gloves and engages in the scrum and fight. This talk of Voracek jumping him or coming out of nowhere to fight him is ridiculous lol, what game were you guys watching? They BOTH should have been given fighting majors and Hagelin should have been kicked out.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 23 @ 12:35 PM ET
Carcillo is not going to get you ANY calls from the refs, that's a guarantee. So that head-shot will go unpunished, guaranteed. I'm merely saying Hagelin should have been ejected... I didn't say we'd win as a result, or the game would have been profoundly different, just that he got lucky there.
- Flyers_V88


Ok, fair enough, but i was responding to jak, when he put the word fortunate in there, like it would have made a difference in the outcome. Like I said, I thought you guys got at least 3 big breaks last night with the reffing, and we got a couple in game 2. Just odd that its whats being talked about, when you guys got more fortunate calls last night. Also I don't think Hags had a point , so it probably wouldn't have changed anything.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Apr 23 @ 12:35 PM ET
if the play was called as it "should have been called"

Voracek gets a major for fighting

Carcillo gets no penalty, Hagelin gets no penalty, just a game misconduct

we have a 5 minute powerplay

- jimbo83

Well said.
vipeviper
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lafayette, IN
Joined: 04.02.2012

Apr 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
if the play was called as it "should have been called"

Voracek gets a major for fighting

Carcillo gets no penalty, Hagelin gets no penalty, just a game misconduct

we have a 5 minute powerplay

- jimbo83


Haglin dropped his gloves first. Regardless of the fact that Voracek was mugging him already there is never going to be a case where the player who drops his gloves first doesn't go to the box. An extra 2 on Jake with matching 5 min for fighting would have been the correct call.

Not 100% sure of the jersey rule. It carries a game misconduct without any penalty? Got sauce on the rule?
TommyDeVito
Ottawa Senators
Location: We're gonna skate to one song, and one song only.
Joined: 12.15.2010

Apr 23 @ 12:36 PM ET
Carcillo is not going to get you ANY calls from the refs, that's a guarantee. So that head-shot will go unpunished, guaranteed. I'm merely saying Hagelin should have been ejected... I didn't say we'd win as a result, or the game would have been profoundly different, just that he got lucky there.
- Flyers_V88


It's sort of an uninteresting point, though, isn't it?

Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 23 @ 12:37 PM ET
He'll get no credit for last night though, the morons from both our fan base and other will point to blocked shots and they didn't need him anyway, it's a joke
- cranford93

He played well, no doubt, but the D blocking the shots gets more credit. Last night was (frank)ing ridiculous... Basically 5 guys out there trying to play goalie.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:39 PM ET
we got Martin St. Louis
- jimbo83



I am proud of how my affinity for the St Louis trade never lessened, despite it all.

He was brought in here for the playoffs; this season, next season and likely beyond.
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