Totally...and also have to remember that the Selke is a bit of a popularity contest...

I like Plekanec as much as the next guy, but you have to admit that the players named ahead of him are also much better players...at least his equal defensively and far better offensively.
- TouenneTiiTree

No, I don't.

No, I don't.
- hscesq

You are right...you don't have to...you can be a wiener and continue to argue Plekanec is better...

Totally...and also have to remember that the Selke is a bit of a popularity contest...

I like Plekanec as much as the next guy, but you have to admit that the players named ahead of him are also much better players...at least his equal defensively and far better offensively.
- TouenneTiiTree

...and much better surrounded.

You are right...you don't have to...you can be a wiener and continue to argue Plekanec is better...
- TouenneTiiTree

He is pretty damn good.

Gretzky, Messier, Stevie Y and Mario top 4 shorthanded goals leaders of all time.

http://www.hockey-referen...ders/goals_sh_career.html
- BingoLady

Good.

So you're saying that shift in player use happened in the 90's?


Glad we agree!

You are right...you don't have to...you can be a wiener and continue to argue Plekanec is better...
- TouenneTiiTree

I didn't argue that he is better.

Good.

So you're saying that shift in player use happened in the 90's?


Glad we agree!
- Pecafan Fan

Think it was earlier than that.

Good.

So you're saying that shift in player use happened in the 90's?


Glad we agree!
- Pecafan Fan

early 80's

Think it was earlier than that.
- hscesq

1983-84 Edmonton Oilers, 36 Shorthanded Goals
No team in NHL history did more damage with a man in the box than the 1983-84 Oilers. Gretzky led the shorthanded assault, setting a then NHL record with 12 shorthanded goals. Mario Lemieux would break the record five years later, scoring 13 shorthanded goals for the Pittsburgh Penguins in 1988-89 to establish the current mark.

Jari Kurri, Gretzky’s favorite triggerman, finished second on the club with five shorties, while Mark Messier and Glenn Anderson recorded four each. All told, 12 different Oilers notched a shorthanded tally.

...and much better surrounded.
- stinger67

True.

But come on...they are still better than Plek...who had been my favorite hab for a few years (before Gallagher came into my life )...

1983-84 Edmonton Oilers, 36 Shorthanded Goals
No team in NHL history did more damage with a man in the box than the 1983-84 Oilers. Gretzky led the shorthanded assault, setting a then NHL record with 12 shorthanded goals. Mario Lemieux would break the record five years later, scoring 13 shorthanded goals for the Pittsburgh Penguins in 1988-89 to establish the current mark.

Jari Kurri, Gretzky’s favorite triggerman, finished second on the club with five shorties, while Mark Messier and Glenn Anderson recorded four each. All told, 12 different Oilers notched a shorthanded tally.
- BingoLady

Voila.

Man did goalies suck back then. Ridiculous.

True.

But come on...they are still better than Plek...who had been my favorite hab for a few years (before Gallagher came into my life )...
- TouenneTiiTree

I'm surprised the voters didn't take this into account.

I'm surprised the voters didn't take this into account.
- hscesq

I'm surprised the voters didn't take this into account.
- hscesq

I know... they are super mean.

- BingoLady

laugh it up fuzz ball.

Man did goalies suck back then. Ridiculous.
- Pecafan Fan

Fire the coaches, too.

I'm surprised the voters didn't take this into account.
- hscesq

It's always about money with you...

It's terrible.

Absolutely terrible.

Also, THIS:


- Pecafan Fan

so hot

- Aetherial

Oh please.

It was done and over with.

Aetherial - we've moved on from that. You can PM him or go to Paul Stewart's thread.

laugh it up fuzz ball.
- TouenneTiiTree

hey Dumber_23 - app called Shnarped for smartphones. Gallagher sends u a message on it and pounds u. He pounded me.

PK and Price yet to respond.

Aetherial - we've moved on from that. You can PM him or go to Paul Stewart's thread.
- hscesq

He can go (frank)himself as far as I'm concerned.

Aetherial - we've moved on from that. You can PM him or go to Paul Stewart's thread.
- hscesq

Dude, I'm a Leafs fan. I got nothin, and now you take this fun away from me too. That's just all ugly inside and stuff.

He can go (frank)himself as far as I'm concerned.
- WaterBoy

If I could, I would never leave home.