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-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Apr 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
I would love to see this.
Jake has been their best skater and has the speed to turn the rangers defenseman around.

- Marc D



yes please
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
You can see Read bending his knees and lowering his shoulder right before contact... maybe that was to protect himself, or it could have been a bit of a cheap shot. It could go either way.
- Tomahawk


I think Read knew exactly what he was doing.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
The Flyers spent the most time shorthanded this year. The Sharks the least. The Flyers were playing shorthanded for 180 minutes more than the Sharks. What a waste of time
- eayost


Flyers get so many restraining penalties
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 23 @ 10:46 AM ET
That's all?
- Just5


Sharks PK time 362 minutes
Flyers PK time 542 minutes

That's a huge percent difference. They're just so dumb sometimes
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 23 @ 10:48 AM ET
I think Read knew exactly what he was doing.
- MBFlyerfan



Probably.

I think Carbomb knew what he was doing, too.

It was like a convergence of nefariousness.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 23 @ 10:48 AM ET
On the other hand, they spent the 3rd most time on the PP.

I thought the Refs are always against the Flyers? Anyways, maybe they could try next year to continue earning PP time via hard work and cut down on penalties yea? Simple right?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
Probably.

I think Carbomb knew what he was doing, too.

It was like a convergence of nefariousness.

- Tomahawk




FloHaake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Tucson, AZ
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
The part i really don't like is how he feels the need to go to the press and call out the fans in a city where he played nor how he threw Leighton under the bus. He's a fringe player and needs to keep his mouth shut.
- Hextall271


Yea well, is anyone surprised? Once a clown, always a clown. Somehow he always comes out clean on the other side. It's frustrating but that's how it goes for weasels like him.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
The same type of effort as last night, but with Mason in goal and a few more shots getting through on Lunkqvist, will result in this series being tied after 4 games.

I still believe in this team.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
Probably.

I think Carbomb knew what he was doing, too.

It was like a convergence of nefariousness.

- Tomahawk


Im just so glad we don't have Carcillo on our team. The Flyers really need to purge themselves of these types of players. You can see they never get any benefit of the doubt.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Apr 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
I agree. Mo idea how that clown didnt get a 10.He went right after the ref and I think bumped into him slightly. Still the rangers are getting the benefit of most of the calls and non calls. The part i really don't like is how he feels the need to go to the press and call out the fans in a city where he played nor how he threw Leighton under the bus. He's a fringe player and needs to keep his mouth shut.
- Hextall271



In Game 1, I would agree with you, but in Game 2 and last night there was no benefit of the doubt from the officials for the Rangers.

That call on Carcillo was a joke, the lack of fighting majors doled out, to Voracek and Hagelin was also pretty stunning as well.

The Flyers are not playing disciplined this series and to suggest the refs are screwing them over is skewed, to say the least.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
In Game 1, I would agree with you, but in Game 2 and last night there was no benefit of the doubt from the officials for the Rangers.

That call on Carcillo was a joke, the lack of fighting majors doled out, to Voracek and Hagelin was also pretty stunning as well.

The Flyers are not playing disciplined this series and to suggest the refs are screwing them over is skewed, to say the least.

- MidnightMarauder


Dolan has paid off the refs and Bettman allows it to happen because the league hates the Flyers. Get with the program.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 23 @ 10:53 AM ET
The same type of effort as last night, but with Mason in goal and a few more shots getting through on Lunkqvist, will result in this series being tied after 4 games.

I still believe in this team.

- FlyerGuy



A doesn't matter if they don't do B.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 23 @ 10:54 AM ET
In Game 1, I would agree with you, but in Game 2 and last night there was no benefit of the doubt from the officials for the Rangers.

That call on Carcillo was a joke, the lack of fighting majors doled out, to Voracek and Hagelin was also pretty stunning as well.

The Flyers are not playing disciplined this series and to suggest the refs are screwing them over is skewed, to say the least.

- MidnightMarauder



Stop it! Stop it right now!!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
If anyone cares Giroux has guaranteed a Game 4 victory. Which probably guarantees we'll be facing elimination in Game 6 and another guarantee for that
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 23 @ 10:55 AM ET
Im just so glad we don't have Carcillo on our team. The Flyers really need to purge themselves of these types of players. You can see they never get any benefit of the doubt.
- PhillySportsGuy


Or at least if you're going to employ these types of rats/goons/clowns, make sure they can actually play hockey.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 23 @ 10:57 AM ET
okay legitimate question. By the end of both of these first round matchups, the over under for collective goals by crosby, giroux, and malkin. ill toss out the first number at 4.5
- stayinthefnnet

Would not take that bet

Any of the three players could go nuts in a single game and light it up

But it is hard to do in the playoffs, the opponents game plan is to shut these guys down
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
If anyone cares Giroux has guaranteed a Game 4 victory. Which probably guarantees we'll be facing elimination in Game 6 and another guarantee for that
- Just5

Did he guarantee they get the two points?

That was the best.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
Did he guarantee they get the two points?

That was the best.

- Marc D

2 more points and we qualify for a best-of-3 playoff round, I believe.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 23 @ 11:03 AM ET
In Game 1, I would agree with you, but in Game 2 and last night there was no benefit of the doubt from the officials for the Rangers.

That call on Carcillo was a joke, the lack of fighting majors doled out, to Voracek and Hagelin was also pretty stunning as well.

The Flyers are not playing disciplined this series and to suggest the refs are screwing them over is skewed, to say the least.

- MidnightMarauder

My biggest issue ref-wise has been consistency. They've made ticky tack calls, and minutes later ignored blatant, obvious calls.

I wonder if Carcillo got called as sort of a retribution for acting like a sniper got him when he & Read collided earlier
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:03 AM ET
Or at least if you're going to employ these types of rats/goons/clowns, make sure they can actually play hockey.
- Tomahawk


Exactly. I'm hoping Laughton can be a guy like that.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 23 @ 11:04 AM ET
If anyone cares Giroux has guaranteed a Game 4 victory. Which probably guarantees we'll be facing elimination in Game 6 and another guarantee for that
- Just5


Girouxentee
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 23 @ 11:05 AM ET
So no credit goes to the best shutdown tandem in the league or the all-world goalie behind them for stifling G?
- Tomahawk


When in doubt, make sure you blame your team's best player. Bonus points for if said player is one of the league's best and if you come up with a catchy nickname to mock him when things go sour, because he's obviously not trying hard enough

*Page 1, Paragraph 1 of "How to Be a Fan of Philadelphia Sports"
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 23 @ 11:07 AM ET
In Game 1, I would agree with you, but in Game 2 and last night there was no benefit of the doubt from the officials for the Rangers.

That call on Carcillo was a joke, the lack of fighting majors doled out, to Voracek and Hagelin was also pretty stunning as well.

The Flyers are not playing disciplined this series and to suggest the refs are screwing them over is skewed, to say the least.

- MidnightMarauder

The officiating has been bad for both teams.
The St Louis goal he interfered with kimmo and got position on him after knocking him down.

On the Streit goal you could argue that G interfered with McDonagh that caused the turnover leading to the goal.

The hook call on Carcillo was awful.

The two minute roughing with Jake and Hagelin benefitted both teams.
If they called a fight then Hagelin has to be tossed from the game.

The 2nd game the officials started out calling everything which was the opposite of game one where for the first 50 minutes they put the whistles away and all sorts of cross checks and hooks were let go.

Overall the refs have been miserable.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 23 @ 11:08 AM ET
My biggest issue ref-wise has been consistency. They've made ticky tack calls, and minutes later ignored blatant, obvious calls.

I wonder if Carcillo got called as sort of a retribution for acting like a sniper got him when he & Read collided earlier

- Jsaquella


Maybe so. Officials hate that sort of stuff and Carcillo's name is mud with the officials anyway. It was a bad call. OTOH he nearly got himself an unsportsmanlike conduct tacked onto that penalty but got a second warning. If it had been a regular season game he would have gotten an extra two.
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