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twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
Kessel+Bozak+Kadri for Duchene + O'Reilly pls

COL resigns Stastny + has MacKinnon

Stays powerful down the middle with Bozak, Kadri, MacKinnon & Stastny + get a great winger

Leafs get better up the middle with Duchene, O'reilly
TheThrill
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sid, I'm open!, ON
Joined: 12.10.2013

Apr 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
The worst will be when Nonis goes out and pays 5.5 milly for Niskanen and then randy just keeps Phaneuf paired with Gunnarsson anyways, because he is bat poop (frank)ing crazy
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:16 AM ET
get the cement head off the team

(frank) me has he gotten over rated.. its like franson a year ago

- Dozzer


Except he can skate, shoot, pass, score, and is creative.

Be very careful comparing those two lol
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:16 AM ET
Gardiner is #3 on my Leafs Defense depth chart.

#3 for a #2 which bumps Gunner to #3 from #4, when Carlyle will play #1 and #3 together anyway and leaves us with our #2 playing #3 minutes, are we really better off?

- Bigzby


gunnar would be fine with second pairing minutes imo.

obviously he's the guy to slide down when better comes along but he has done a decent job on the top pairing all things considered.. second pairing responsibilities would probably be fairly easy for him
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:16 AM ET
So sign Morris and get rid of Gunner??? I'd rather Gunner.
- burn


Yes. Morris is better, provides leadership, and could be paired with a young guy like Gardiner or Rielly.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
Except he can skate, shoot, pass, score, and is creative.
- Bigzby


too bad he freezes his forwards at the blue line routinely

and takes forever to make a decision

top flight skill

smart like truck
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:17 AM ET
Lol you probably have one of those dirty rough english accents you see on tv shows. Not the james bond one.
- CanadianBodmon

I'll have you know that my accent has the same effect on people as does lying down on freshly laundered sheets, you impish rogue!
CanadianBodmon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.04.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
jvr - bozak - kessel
gards - statsney - lupul
kuli - holland -clarkson
ashton - mcclement -bodie
Orr

Phanoof- someone
Gunner -Rielly
Gleason - Ranger

kadri traded.

Stamkos realizes he could be on the beach now anyways. Asks to move to Toronto.

Tavares realizes he IS the person that is living out all our dreams. Decides to come to toronto. Stammer and Tavares win Toronto first stanley cup in 2017.

Local kids all begin to come home and Toronto becomes a powerhouse.

Book it.
ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
gunnar would be fine with second pairing minutes imo.

obviously he's the guy to slide down when better comes along but he has done a decent job on the top pairing all things considered.. second pairing responsibilities would probably be fairly easy for him

- Dozzer


Sometimes cap space is more valuable, especially when trying to upgrade. There's probably like 10 UFA Dmen I'd take over Gunnarsson at this point, he's really just an average Dman.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
gunnar would be fine with second pairing minutes imo.

obviously he's the guy to slide down when better comes along but he has done a decent job on the top pairing all things considered.. second pairing responsibilities would probably be fairly easy for him

- Dozzer



CHI is using oduya and Hjalmersson as shutdown pair and getting Keith and seabrook Ozone starts. I'd like to see the leafs maybe try that.

first priority would be to figure out how to get the puck out!!
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
gunnar would be fine with second pairing minutes imo.

obviously he's the guy to slide down when better comes along but he has done a decent job on the top pairing all things considered.. second pairing responsibilities would probably be fairly easy for him

- Dozzer


Ya but Carlyle will just fall back to having Gunner, probably ranked 4th on the depth charts by most of us, playing with Phaneuf anyway, this team is so (frank)ed its frustrating as hell.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
Sometimes cap space is more valuable, especially when trying to upgrade. There's probably like 10 UFA Dmen I'd take over Gunnarsson at this point, he's really just an average Dman.
- ThePresident


any UFA d-man that can do what gunnar can do will cost more than gunnar.
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:20 AM ET
Kessel+Bozak+Kadri for Duchene + O'Reilly pls

COL resigns Stastny + has MacKinnon

Stays powerful down the middle with Bozak, Kadri, MacKinnon & Stastny + get a great winger

Leafs get better up the middle with Duchene, O'reilly

- twiztedmike

go sit in a corner
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:20 AM ET
too bad he freezes his forwards at the blue line routinely

and takes forever to make a decision

top flight skill

smart like truck

- Dozzer



I love Gards and I think it will be tough to let someone like him go but gotta face the fact that we have Reilly. Much better at the same thing. I'd take a run at Niskanen.

Pha9-Niskanen
Gunnar-Reilly
Gleason-Granberg
Ranger

ThePresident
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NY
Joined: 12.08.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:22 AM ET
any UFA d-man that can do what gunnar can do will cost more than gunnar.
- Dozzer


Morris makes 2.75 right now, I don't see him making much of a raise. Actually quite sad that Gunnarsson is being paid more than him. Also, I'd rather have a Niskanen at 5.5 million over Gunnar at 3 million...so it would basically be like spending 2.5 million to upgrade one over the other....worth it in my opinion.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
jvr - bozak - kessel
gards - statsney - lupul
kuli - holland -clarkson
ashton - mcclement -bodie
Orr

Phanoof- someone
Gunner -Rielly
Gleason - Ranger

kadri traded.

Stamkos realizes he could be on the beach now anyways. Asks to move to Toronto.

Tavares realizes he IS the person that is living out all our dreams. Decides to come to toronto. Stammer and Tavares win Toronto first stanley cup in 2017.

Local kids all begin to come home and Toronto becomes a powerhouse.

Book it.

- CanadianBodmon


Kadri is local kid

Stastny is Murican
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
CHI is using oduya and Hjalmersson as shutdown pair and getting Keith and seabrook Ozone starts. I'd like to see the leafs maybe try that.

first priority would be to figure out how to get the puck out!!

- burn


RC needs to revisit his entire approach to D

its antique

so brutal to watch
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 23 @ 11:23 AM ET
I love Gards and I think it will be tough to let someone like him go but gotta face the fact that we have Reilly. Much better at the same thing. I'd take a run at Niskanen.

Pha9-Niskanen
Gunnar-Reilly
Gleason-Granberg
Ranger

- iTOLDu


Honest question, how much do you think he'd cost?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
I love Gards and I think it will be tough to let someone like him go but gotta face the fact that we have Reilly. Much better at the same thing. I'd take a run at Niskanen.

Pha9-Niskanen
Gunnar-Reilly
Gleason-Granberg
Ranger

- iTOLDu


yeah something like that would be rather nice.

twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
I guess they wouldn't... they could have MacKinnon and Duchene like Pitts with Malkin/Crosby...

But still, MacKinnon/Stastny/Bozak/Kadri is still really good up the middle and kessel gives them another star winger
iTOLDu
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MI
Joined: 10.26.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
Honest question, how much do you think he'd cost?
- Aaron_85



Worth prob 4.5 guessing he gets 5.5. Especially this year.
CanadianBodmon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.04.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
Kadri is local kid

Stastny is Murican

- twiztedmike



Local want to come AFTER we win. So they can get in the action. Not in this cluster(frank). Thats why Stammer and Tavares gotta lead the way.
Bigzby
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Inside Candymouth, NV
Joined: 07.06.2011

Apr 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
yeah something like that would be rather nice.
- Dozzer


Why wouldn't you get rid of Gleason, and keep Gards and play him Granberg?

Buyout or Trade for nothing isn't out of the question.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 23 @ 11:25 AM ET
Yes. Morris is better, provides leadership, and could be paired with a young guy like Gardiner or Rielly.
- ThePresident



Oh... Gunner has outscored him in every year the last 4 years (71pts in 261 games =.23pts/ game for Gunner. 55pts in 238 games =.23pts/game for morris) and is a +6 to his -22.

I'll take gunner over morris right now no question.


burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 23 @ 11:26 AM ET
Sometimes cap space is more valuable, especially when trying to upgrade. There's probably like 10 UFA Dmen I'd take over Gunnarsson at this point, he's really just an average Dman.
- ThePresident



how does getting rid of gunner @ 3mil and replacing him with a crappier 3mil player help in the slightest??
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