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- todd1a

well im in, can anyone lend me 1.795 million?

well obviously the penalty call has stirred up some controversy, as always fueled by the fanboys at TSN (except for, oddly enough, the longtime NHL referee who agreed with the call). i'm not quite sure what the issue is. the trip was blatant, i think we can all admit that. it also occurred in the vicinity of the puck and as a result of the trip, Tampa gained possession in the offensive zone. so we have a blatant act that affects who gets possession of the puck in a team's defensive zone. that will never, ever not be a penalty, no matter how a game is being called to that point. it's a tough break for the Lightning, no doubt. but it was a no-brainer.

what should be at issue here is, why was Cedric Paquette, a mucker who has been in the NHL for about 6 minutes, on the ice with 2 minutes left in a tied playoff game on the road? i understand Tampa is short on experience but Cooper should not have had this guy out there. he was obviously not ready for that situation.

Wow. You are so tough with your team. I can't speak for Salo as I have not seen him play much this year but on a young squad, experience is always good even as a 6th or 7th defencemen. Gudas is like many other players in the league, more interested in his number of hits than anything else. With time and maturity, he will learn to focus on the play first and pick his moments for hits. Calahan was intense, even after the whistle. He punished MTL and worked hard. However, without offensive production, he won't get the contract he is hoping for. You have a coach that even I would want to play for and had 9 rookies in this series. Brown is promising, Johnson has ridiculous speed, Palat looks like a veteran and he'd be my pick for the Calder. Hedman is becoming a top d-man and Drouin is on his way to the NHL.

It was a bad series, bad execution, bad morale and bad luck. It happens. But don't be so negative about TBay.
- Alpamayo91

looking back, this series was a mismatch based on Tampa's youth. Bishop might have made things a bit closer, but Tampa holding a lead for only 6 minutes in the entire series says everything. i think you're right in that it does happen. i remember Pittsburgh's first playoff series against Ottawa when Crosby was 19 or 20. they got wrecked, just absolutely stomped. then they went to back to back Cup Finals and won one. IMO this is definitely a one step back, two steps forward situation for TBay.

The guy did bring you a cup and 12 and a half years of great hockey. I think you're being a little harsh.

Edit: He deserves to be Tampa's first and only retired Jersey once he retires.
- l3ig_l2ecl

Marty brought them the Cup? Brad Richards, Freddy Modin, Andreychuk, Vinny, Khabi, Feds..they all had nothing to do with it.

Khabi and the Lightning had a ridiculous 5 shutouts in those 16 wins.

Marty brought them the Cup? Brad Richards, Freddy Modin, Andreychuk, Vinny, Khabi, Feds..they all had nothing to do with it.

Khabi and the Lightning had a ridiculous 5 shutouts in those 16 wins.
- Blackstrom2

i remember when Tampa swept Montreal that year. they just couldn't get anything by him. it was ridiculous.

Marty brought them the Cup? Brad Richards, Freddy Modin, Andreychuk, Vinny, Khabi, Feds..they all had nothing to do with it.

Khabi and the Lightning had a ridiculous 5 shutouts in those 16 wins.
- Blackstrom2

Kubina and Boyle as well

Michael, i have a question for you. Guy Boucher lost is job because he didn't have a goaler. Will the same thing apply for Cooper?
- andrest

Plus all your rookie D's, and I am including Gudas, though not sure if he is technically a rookie.
- Blackstrom2

He is

Well, unless you think that someone else deserves to have his jersey retired, that would make him the Only.

To think I was talking about the future as well is just ridiculous.

Anyway, be as bitter as you want. It's sad because for a very small fan base, you would hope that the fans would learn to appreciate.
- l3ig_l2ecl

Give me a break if he was on the Habs and did what he did he wouldn't have to sell his house you would have burnt it to the ground.

My point is... When your #1 goalie is hurt, you can't do much!
- andrest

There fixed it for you

With a first class goaler it works!! I know I watched Bishop in Ottawa.
- andrest

You do realize Bishop is just injured and not deceased right? He will be the Lightning starting tender next season

This is like if one of us defended Joe Sacco for no reason at all.

Seriously, what is the point in talking about Boucher?
- Blackstrom2

Damn good question

There's a lot of talk about how the refs blew the game for the Lightning in the last 2 minutes... But there doesn't seem to be anyone mentioning how Stamkos throws a temper tantrum, punches Emelin in the face for no reason and gets away with it.
- Distrad

Emelin dove which is why Stamkos reacted. You could even see him say "dive" to the officials

Well, unless you think that someone else deserves to have his jersey retired, that would make him the Only.

To think I was talking about the future as well is just ridiculous.

Anyway, be as bitter as you want. It's sad because for a very small fan base, you would hope that the fans would learn to appreciate.
- l3ig_l2ecl

Vinny Will have his number retired waaaaaaaay before Marty. Vinny never wanted to leave and is a huge part of this community. It wont take too long after his retirement.

Well, unless you think that someone else deserves to have his jersey retired, that would make him the Only.

To think I was talking about the future as well is just ridiculous.

Anyway, be as bitter as you want. It's sad because for a very small fan base, you would hope that the fans would learn to appreciate.
- l3ig_l2ecl

why wouldn't you say his #26 jersey should be retired and only he should wear it and no one else then instead of saying he should be tampas only retired jersey...holy (frank)

completely 2 different things , and im dumb

TB will certainly move on from Lindback...but is there anyone else that gambles on him as a back-up? Doesn't appear to have it for the NHL

TB will certainly move on from Lindback...but is there anyone else that gambles on him as a back-up? Doesn't appear to have it for the NHL
- jimbri

yes, he does. hes inconsistent, though

well obviously the penalty call has stirred up some controversy, as always fueled by the fanboys at TSN (except for, oddly enough, the longtime NHL referee who agreed with the call). i'm not quite sure what the issue is. the trip was blatant, i think we can all admit that. it also occurred in the vicinity of the puck and as a result of the trip, Tampa gained possession in the offensive zone. so we have a blatant act that affects who gets possession of the puck in a team's defensive zone. that will never, ever not be a penalty, no matter how a game is being called to that point. it's a tough break for the Lightning, no doubt. but it was a no-brainer.

what should be at issue here is, why was Cedric Paquette, a mucker who has been in the NHL for about 6 minutes, on the ice with 2 minutes left in a tied playoff game on the road? i understand Tampa is short on experience but Cooper should not have had this guy out there. he was obviously not ready for that situation.
- DoubleDown

The only "controversy" with that penalty was the multitude of others that the officials let go.

As for Paquette, the Bolts had 10+ players make their playoff debut in this series. So even if Paquette isn't out there another "young and inexperienced" player will be.

TB will certainly move on from Lindback...but is there anyone else that gambles on him as a back-up? Doesn't appear to have it for the NHL
- jimbri

Lindback's issue isn't physical ability, it is mental. He is learning how to properly play angles and square to shooters b/c he never had any AHL time with Nashville where tenders actually get legitimate goaltender schooling. Alot of his softies occur b/c of bad positioning but on the same token he can (using his natural ability) make a spectacular save the next shift.

The only "controversy" with that penalty was the multitude of others that the officials let go.

As for Paquette, the Bolts had 10+ players make their playoff debut in this series. So even if Paquette isn't out there another "young and inexperienced" player will be.
- uf1910

right, but like i said, that's something that will always, always be called, especially given that it gave TBay possession. if Montreal comes away with the puck there, maybe it's not called. what if Tampa had used that possession to score with Bournival behind the play? seems like everyone would have been OK with that.

“I thought the refs did a great job of putting the whistles away in the third and then a penalty like that, 200-feet from our net that doesn’t result in a scoring chance,’’ Lightning captain Steven Stamkos said. “Was it a trip? Yeah, probably, but the way things were going, you probably don’t expect that to be called. It’s tough, you learn from those situations, you never know what is going to be called, but it is a tough way to lose a game.’’

“It was the old, refs-let-them-play, they let the teams decide it, and it was really unfortunate that it has to come down to a call like that with two minutes left,’’ Lightning head coach Jon Cooper said. “But ultimately you have to kill them off, you can’t hang your head and you have to kill it off, and we didn’t.’’

Sums it up for me like I said last night all I ask is the refs be consistent and they clearly weren't last night, it was obvious they put the whistles away (except for very blatant penalties) so both teams knew they could play hard then they called that, they let much worse infractions go in the third. That was my beef just need consistently when calling a game, call all the penalties or none consistent so the players know how to play the game. The Bolts did not kill the penalty off and lost.

Just like baseball the hitter adjusts to the home plate umpires strike zone so they know how to swing accordingly to that umpire.

Give me a break if he was on the Habs and did what he did he wouldn't have to sell his house you would have burnt it to the ground.
- tpd11

Oh come on now.

My biggest question to Jon Cooper would be about Paquette though, kid has two regular season games and plays all four post season games. On the ice for 2 of Montreal's game winning goals and takes the penalty setting up the third game winning goal. I just don't see how he was a better option than some of the players we sat each game where were depending on the game Panik, Kucherov, Pyatt, Crombeen.

“I thought the refs did a great job of putting the whistles away in the third and then a penalty like that, 200-feet from our net that doesn’t result in a scoring chance,’’ Lightning captain Steven Stamkos said. “Was it a trip? Yeah, probably, but the way things were going, you probably don’t expect that to be called. It’s tough, you learn from those situations, you never know what is going to be called, but it is a tough way to lose a game.’’

“It was the old, refs-let-them-play, they let the teams decide it, and it was really unfortunate that it has to come down to a call like that with two minutes left,’’ Lightning head coach Jon Cooper said. “But ultimately you have to kill them off, you can’t hang your head and you have to kill it off, and we didn’t.’’

Sums it up for me like I said last night all I ask is the refs be consistent and they clearly weren't last night, it was obvious they put the whistles away (except for very blatant penalties) so both teams knew they could play hard then they called that, they let much worse infractions go in the third. That was my beef just need consistently when calling a game, call all the penalties or none consistent so the players know how to play the game. The Bolts did not kill the penalty off and lost.

Just like baseball the hitter adjusts to the home plate umpires strike zone so they know how to swing accordingly to that umpire.
- stammerman

what did they let go in the third that was worse or more blatant? and how can anyone justify what Paquette did? it was one of the most foolish things you'll ever see on a hockey rink. the refs are going to let things go and let the teams play but they're not going to let you make them look like fools. this goes to the point i made earlier about Paquette being on the ice in that situation. i think that's on Cooper, TBH.

what did they let go in the third that was worse or more blatant? and how can anyone justify what Paquette did? it was one of the most foolish things you'll ever see on a hockey rink. the refs are going to let things go and let the teams play but they're not going to let you make them look like fools. this goes to the point i made earlier about Paquette being on the ice in that situation. i think that's on Cooper, TBH.
- DoubleDown

Uhh.. Bourque ran our goalie Kristers at the 9minute mark, he made no effort to slow down or avoid Kristers... now I know you will disagree with me on that obviously because your a Habs fan but that is the example that comes to my head. Their were plenty of plays that were to me clear penalties that they let go.

The Bolts ultimately could not kill off the penalty and lost, I stand by what I say though as I felt that call was not consistent with how they called that period. And as I said in the next post I agree with you, I don't understand why Paquette was getting all the ice time, it was his 6th NHL game we had guys benched who have played all year, very weird to me.