I'm just glad Jordan Staal didn't want to sign long-term with them. Sutter is okay, but he is no Staal. The Kennedy-Staal-Cooke line gave the Flyers plenty of trouble. The Pens third line hasn't been nearly as potent in two years.
- ravishingone

oh yeah. sutter isnt staal by any means. staal was a perfect third line center for the pens. but for 6M, that would have been a hell of a lot of money sunk into him.

i know purists may not like it, but I love seeing non traditional markets have success, and really being given a chance to see if they will take to it or not.
- stayinthefnnet

I agree, I think the purists would rather see the shootout go first, (this one would).
It's funny how they determine tiebreakers down the stretch in the standings, giving no credence to shootout wins in deciding factors.

When Hall got stoned I was literally laying on the floor
- Giroux_Is_God

Yeah he made a solid move too! I was more surprised about the move Hall made than anything else. Was not expecting a goal there.

I agree, I think the purists would rather see the shootout go first, (this one would).
It's funny how they determine tiebreakers down the stretch in the standings, giving no credence to shootout wins in deciding factors.
- puckhead17

im very, very torn over the shootout. i definitely love watching it. but part of me is still a little unnerved over the fact that how can something be considered a tiebreaker but then not be given relevancy like you said. i dont want to get rid of it. i think the best solution (which inherently appears even more radical) would be to adjust the point system like some have mentioned on here before.

They definitely are. They both need to step up though. a very quiet series so far. Neal is a good sniper, but is almost entirely dependent upon his center for offense.

Simmonds and jakes deals are both also extremely reasonable.
- stayinthefnnet

Like a true sniper.

Simmonds & Jake's deals are very reasonable, I don't think many people thought Simmonds would be a 60 point player.

i met her playing in a charity game last year that she was involved in organizing/running. do. not. like. that's all i'm gonna' say.
- hammarby31

haaaa

im very, very torn over the shootout. i definitely love watching it. but part of me is still a little unnerved over the fact that how can something be considered a tiebreaker but then not be given relevancy like you said. i dont want to get rid of it. i think the best solution (which inherently appears even more radical) would be to adjust the point system like some have mentioned on here before.
- stayinthefnnet

Ouch, (my opinion), but not the 3 point for regulation win theory?

That really kills the record books, (I know, so does the shootout), but I think that's way too radical.

Yeah he made a solid move too! I was more surprised about the move Hall made than anything else. Was not expecting a goal there.
- Pixote Andolini

David Poile is phoning Homer about Hall after that move, he's looking for a first line center in Nashville.

Like a true sniper.

Simmonds & Jake's deals are very reasonable, I don't think many people thought Simmonds would be a 60 point player.
- puckhead17

Who knows he could possibly pot 40 in a season.

oh yeah. sutter isnt staal by any means. staal was a perfect third line center for the pens. but for 6M, that would have been a hell of a lot of money sunk into him.
- stayinthefnnet

I thought Shero offered him that much money, but he turned it down, no? Honestly, I would have rather signed Staal for that much money and moved Letang. Letang is a great offensive defensemen, very average in his own zone (even before his stroke). Geno and Sid just don't seem all that interested in being defensively responsible all the time. Staal was your Coots.

Wish the Flyers threads could have permanent 'sticky' threads.

That way people can continually argue the Richards/Carter moves in one, another one for shootouts and so on, since these topics don't ever seem to go away or get resolved.

Maybe even get a political one for Flyersgod.

Who knows he could possibly pot 40 in a season.
- Pixote Andolini

They were comparing him to Tocchet during the game, I don't completely agree with that, Tocchet could fire shots from the deep slot & circles, as well as in tight.

Ouch, (my opinion), but not the 3 point for regulation win theory?

That really kills the record books, (I know, so does the shootout), but I think that's way too radical.
- puckhead17

I hope the NHL finally does the most logical solution.

-3 points for regulation or OT period victory
-2 points for shootout victory
-1 point for OT or shootout loss

It is just insane that a shootout victory is held in the same regard as a regulation win. I just don't get it.

I hope the NHL finally does the most logical solution.

-3 points for regulation or OT period victory
-2 points for shootout victory
-1 point for OT or shootout loss

It is just insane that a shootout victory is held in the same regard as a regulation win. I just don't get it.
- ravishingone

agreed!
Thats why it needs to go!!

They were comparing him to Tocchet during the game, I don't completely agree with that, Tocchet could fire shots from the deep slot & circles, as well as in tight.
- puckhead17

Yeah. I don't ever recall a proper slapshot by Simmonds ever. Right now I think most of his points come from the PP and he's in that down low area so no need for rockets or even snap shots. He potted a nice wrister from top of the circle a couple games before the end of the season.

agreed!
Thats why it needs to go!!
- puckhead17

Yeah, let's get rid of that and the trapezoid. Dumbest rules in hockey.

Ouch, (my opinion), but not the 3 point for regulation win theory?

That really kills the record books, (I know, so does the shootout), but I think that's way too radical.
- puckhead17

i know, i know. i dont like that notion too much either for that reason. but at some point, it becomes a lesser of evils approach.

i'm so glad they're all gone, especially that (frank)ing fruitbat.
- hammarby31

I know.. we could not stop that little gremlin ever!

Foligno back in the lineup for the Jackets. Playing on a line with Artisemov and Umberger.

Who knows he could possibly pot 40 in a season.
- Pixote Andolini

i definitely think he could. he would just need really solid consistent center play at even strength. be that him being on girouxs line, or his own center taking that next step.

Yeah. I don't ever recall a proper slapshot by Simmonds ever. Right now I think most of his points come from the PP and he's in that down low area so no need for rockets or even snap shots. He potted a nice wrister from top of the circle a couple games before the end of the season.
- Pixote Andolini

Yes, I remember that one, I love the guys game, and nothing wrong with the way he scores, they all count.
But the fact that he can score, & fight doesn't exactly make him a Tocchet clone, (the way they were comparing him).

Yeah, let's get rid of that and the trapezoid. Dumbest rules in hockey.
- mayorofangrytown

Cosign.

I hope the NHL finally does the most logical solution.

-3 points for regulation or OT period victory
-2 points for shootout victory
-1 point for OT or shootout loss

It is just insane that a shootout victory is held in the same regard as a regulation win. I just don't get it.
- ravishingone

So it it golf now? Lowest point total by season's end means you're a better team? I don't see any other reason to give negative point values....

Yeah, let's get rid of that and the trapezoid. Dumbest rules in hockey.
- mayorofangrytown

The trapezoid, or better known as the Marty rule, (I like when Emerick called it the pieslice).

I thought Shero offered him that much money, but he turned it down, no? Honestly, I would have rather signed Staal for that much money and moved Letang. Letang is a great offensive defensemen, very average in his own zone (even before his stroke). Geno and Sid just don't seem all that interested in being defensively responsible all the time. Staal was your Coots.
- ravishingone

they did offer him essentially the same deal carolina did. but carolina offered the chance for more prominent playing time, as well as to play with eric.

and i definitely agree. staal was awesome defensively, and even if he didnt have offensive flare, he could play keep away with the puck.

if you put patrice bergeron's brain in malkin's body, you would have likely the best hockey player in the league to date. and no, i truly dont believe that to be gross hyperbole.