Both sides of this Emery/Mason thing are making some valid points, but I'm surprised how strong the assumption that Mason is the better goalie for this situation is, considering the last time he made it this far, he thoroughly crapped the bed despite a fantastic regular season, triggering his downward spiral.

Maybe Emery isn't as good of a goalie compared to Mase, but at least you kind of know what to expect out of him. Mason's still a playoff wildcard.
- Tomahawk

Emery is the more experienced and seasoned goalie. But there's only one way for a player to get that experience, and that's to play in those situations. And I think Mason has shown that he is a more mature players then the player he was in Columbus.

"Fixed that for you." In other words, I like what you said, but altered it to be more betterer.
- jmatchett383

Gotcha. Yeah, thats pretty much what I meant without actually saying it. I would rather have Price out than Subban.

The only game I went to this year was a Montreal game. Me and my bro were shouting Sooo Bad every time Subban made a play and booing every time he touched the puck. He kept looking up and us and making bad plays. He was even benched for like 10 minutes that night and I like to think that I played a big role in that happening lol.

Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers 2m
Mason announces he is out. Ray Emery will start in Game 3 on Tuesday with Cal Heeter as back up. #Flyers

Has Mason ran this by Holmgren yet? He's breaking the chain of command.

Philadelphia Flyers ‏@NHLFlyers 2m
Mason announces he is out. Ray Emery will start in Game 3 on Tuesday with Cal Heeter as back up. #Flyers

Has Mason ran this by Holmgren yet? He's breaking the chain of command.
- PLindbergh31

#goaltendingcontroversy

#goaltendingcontroversy
- BulliesPhan87

#mysteryinjury

PK Subban blocked him from leaving.
Price had time to recover, and in fact Price gets up and initiates contact with the TB player. Awful awful call.
- Marc D

There are pretty clear rules about goalie interference. Even if the goalie initiates contact, it can still be called goalie interference according to the rules. You cannot prevent a goalie from establishing his position to make a save, even if the goalie initiates the contact.

#goaltendingcontroversy
- BulliesPhan87

#mysteryinjury
- wolfhounds

This is the part that pisses me off

#mysteryinjury
- wolfhounds

Concussion. Almost certainly dealing with some kind of post concussive issues

-fatigue at the end of a practice
-not feeling well
-prior history

Could also be dealing with whiplash symptoms & a concussion...the injuries are mutually exclusive, can definitely be one or the other or both. I feel concussion is more likely because of the reluctance to label it, plus the no comments when Holmgren & Mason were specifically asked if it was not a concussion

There are pretty clear rules about goalie interference. Even if the goalie initiates contact, it can still be called goalie interference according to the rules. You cannot prevent a goalie from establishing his position to make a save, even if the goalie initiates the caontact.
- MJL

Horrible call. If it was interference, the ref should have called it immediately. Instead, he waits until the goal was scored, and he even hesitated a second after that. The shot came from the other side of the ice from where Price bumped Killorn. Subban could have gotten a call for interfering with Killorn and pinning him in the net.

Horrible call.

Horrible call. If it was interference, the ref should have called it immediately. Instead, he waits until the goal was scored, and he even hesitated a second after that. The shot came from the other side of the ice from where Price bumped Killorn. Subban could have gotten a call for interfering with Killorn and pinning him in the net.


- wolfhounds

First time I saw it. I agree, should've been a good goal in my opinion.

- PLindbergh31

Concussion. Almost certainly dealing with some kind of post concussive issues

-fatigue at the end of a practice
-not feeling well
-prior history

Could also be dealing with whiplash symptoms & a concussion...the injuries are mutually exclusive, can definitely be one or the other or both. I feel concussion is more likely because of the reluctance to label it, plus the no comments when Holmgren & Mason were specifically asked if it was not a concussion
- Jsaquella

Mason in an interview the other day stated that his injury is not a concussion. Take that for what it's worth.

Horrible call. If it was interference, the ref should have called it immediately. Instead, he waits until the goal was scored, and he even hesitated a second after that. The shot came from the other side of the ice from where Price bumped Killorn. Subban could have gotten a call for interfering with Killorn and pinning him in the net.

Horrible call.


- wolfhounds

Price had ample time to get set for the shot after the contact. I like how Stewart explains it in his blog-ref is following letter of law, but missing the spirit

Concussion. Almost certainly dealing with some kind of post concussive issues

-fatigue at the end of a practice
-not feeling well
-prior history

Could also be dealing with whiplash symptoms & a concussion...the injuries are mutually exclusive, can definitely be one or the other or both. I feel concussion is more likely because of the reluctance to label it, plus the no comments when Holmgren & Mason were specifically asked if it was not a concussion
- Jsaquella

Ugh. Flyers, Concussions and a Cup Drought: The Ed Snider Story.

C'mon Columbus!

There are pretty clear rules about goalie interference. Even if the goalie initiates contact, it can still be called goalie interference according to the rules. You cannot prevent a goalie from establishing his position to make a save, even if the goalie initiates the contact.
- MJL

I think Paul Stewart did a good job dissecting it.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...owed-Tampa-Goal/196/59550

Mason in an interview the other day stated that his injury is not a concussion. Take that for what it's worth.
- MJL

No he didn't. He declined comment when asked if it was a concussion. Neither he nor Holmgren has stated that it is NOT a concussion.

I posted 4 or 5 links yesterday when you made this same statement, showing that nobody said it's not a concussion

Price had ample time to get set for the shot after the contact. I like how Stewart explains it in his blog-ref is following letter of law, but missing the spirit
- Jsaquella

I need to read that.

Price was scrambling after the initial contact that bumped him way out of net and never really got settled after that. That's on him. If anything, blame the ice...silly slippery frozen water.

Mason in an interview the other day stated that his injury is not a concussion. Take that for what it's worth.
- MJL

I haven't seen a flat out denial of a concussion from Mason, I've seen a lot of folks refusing to comment.

http://articles.philly.co...chenn-shayne-gostisbehere

Holmgren said the Flyers will decide Tuesday morning if Mason can take part in that day's 10:30 a.m. practice in Voorhees. "It depends how he feels," said Holmgren, who would not comment when asked if a concussion could be ruled out.

http://www.usatoday.com/s...urns-to-practice/7878205/

The goalie wouldn't comment on whether he was concussed in this case either, but did say he suffered two concussions in his career prior to last Saturday's game.


http://www.philly.com/phi...ks_sharp_in_practice.html

Toward the end of Saturday's practice, Mason was noticeably laboring.

"Probably the last 10 minutes in practice, what was bothering me wasn't feeling very good," Mason said.

When asked what was bothering him, Mason said, "I can't say that."

http://www.philly.com/phi...-on-Mason-for-Game-2.html


We talked it over, as an organization and he’s not ready,” Berube said. “I thought Ray was fine. He looked sharp again today. Those third period power play goals, there’s no much you could do on them in my opinion. We’ve got to do a better job in front of him.”

Mason, who has suffered two previous concussions in his career, said he did not suffer a setback in practice on Saturday.

“I think it’s all part of the process,” Mason said. “I think we’re doing everything that we can to make sure we’re treating it the proper way. As much as it is frustrating, I think everybody understands it’s going to be a process.”

No he didn't. He declined comment when asked if it was a concussion. Neither he nor Holmgren has stated that it is NOT a concussion.

I posted 4 or 5 links yesterday when you made this same statement, showing that nobody said it's not a concussion
- Jsaquella

I saw in interveiw where he stated his injury is not a concussion. It wasn't my imagination.

I haven't seen a flat out denial of a concussion from Mason, I've seen a lot of folks refusing to comment.

http://articles.philly.co...chenn-shayne-gostisbehere

Holmgren said the Flyers will decide Tuesday morning if Mason can take part in that day's 10:30 a.m. practice in Voorhees. "It depends how he feels," said Holmgren, who would not comment when asked if a concussion could be ruled out.

http://www.usatoday.com/s...urns-to-practice/7878205/

The goalie wouldn't comment on whether he was concussed in this case either, but did say he suffered two concussions in his career prior to last Saturday's game.


http://www.philly.com/phi...ks_sharp_in_practice.html

Toward the end of Saturday's practice, Mason was noticeably laboring.

"Probably the last 10 minutes in practice, what was bothering me wasn't feeling very good," Mason said.

When asked what was bothering him, Mason said, "I can't say that."

http://www.philly.com/phi...-on-Mason-for-Game-2.html


We talked it over, as an organization and he’s not ready,” Berube said. “I thought Ray was fine. He looked sharp again today. Those third period power play goals, there’s no much you could do on them in my opinion. We’ve got to do a better job in front of him.”

Mason, who has suffered two previous concussions in his career, said he did not suffer a setback in practice on Saturday.

“I think it’s all part of the process,” Mason said. “I think we’re doing everything that we can to make sure we’re treating it the proper way. As much as it is frustrating, I think everybody understands it’s going to be a process.”
- Jsaquella

Have to think if he's having post concussion symptoms, that he wouldn't be put in front of the media almost every day.

Have to think if he's having post concussion symptoms, that he wouldn't be put in front of the media almost every day.
- feelingkettle

Agreed. Not saying it's impossible, but it seems purely speculative both ways to me. I'm content to just wait and see how things play out, especially given Emery's outing yesterday.

Agreed. Not saying it's impossible, but it seems purely speculative both ways to me. I'm content to just wait and see how things play out, especially given Emery's outing yesterday.
- BulliesPhan87

If brain stimulation is making him feel bad, then it would be incredibly stupid to stick him in front of cameras and mics and be questioned repeatedly.

There are pretty clear rules about goalie interference. Even if the goalie initiates contact, it can still be called goalie interference according to the rules. You cannot prevent a goalie from establishing his position to make a save, even if the goalie initiates the contact.
- MJL

Yes, but it seemed like Price had time to reset. You can't have a goalie initiate contact and then call no goal once the goalie is able to reestablish positioning, which (to me), he did. IOW, you can't have a goalie initiate the contact, and then call no goal if it's scored at any point before the next stoppage. Judgement call, though.

I saw in interveiw where he stated his injury is not a concussion. It wasn't my imagination.
- MJL

Kind of odd not a single area source reported him saying that, considering how they're beating the "what's wrong with Mason?" angle....I figure at least one of the beat writers would have been present when he said it, and would end the mindless twitter speculation while delivering an exclusive