See DD - someone who really captured the spirit of the thing I was trying to say.
- Deeps27

yup, and there is no way a budget team like ottawa will take that on.
- Dozzer

if the leafs contemplate any trade nonis had better be thinking with that same logic

I really think if he works hard at it he could find a good trading partner

Ottawa wont add Money. they would be paying Spezza 4 mil.
Clarkson and Kadri make 7.8 next year

oh and trading clarkson would be like winning the mega lotto
- senstroll

Apart from the mega lotto probably doesn't come with a prize worth around $30m

Fixed to reflect what you really feel...
- lumlums

only towards hh

ps, dozzer, if thats the only reason for ranger to stay here i think we should let kule walk

reimer... and yeah me too..
- Dozzer

Not sure it's reimer, thought it was mclaren

Shot attempts gives you a much larger pool of data, using Goals (to rare an event) or even scoring chances there is not enough esp when using 5v5 5v5 close etc.as the best indication
- senstroll

I agree to an extent. The large pool of data is key, but there's too many kids pissing in it. The reasons for this have been discussed to death in these threads (eg. unscreened shots from the blueline have the same value as a clean breakaways). If you take the large pool of shot attempt data and qualify it with the ratio of legit scoring chances, it's going to give you a much stronger indication of how a team's performing, no?

Apart from the mega lotto probably doesn't come with a prize worth around $30m
- lumlums

same odds

lol my bad i didn't take the time to read everyone's comments
- matt1337

me either

if the leafs contemplate any trade nonis had better be thinking with that same logic

I really think if he works hard at it he could find a good trading partner
- Flyfreaky

i think its safe to say clarkson will be here for a few more years.

replace the coach, bring in a D man who is known to be good in his own end and resign some (not all) of the FAs and I will call the off-season a success.

Not sure it's reimer, thought it was mclaren
- burn

too short to be mcclaren.

its reims.. and he isnt actually running the wrong way... obviously the tread mill is facing that way.. but it just looks funny is all.

too short to be mcclaren.

its reims.. and he isnt actually running the wrong way... obviously the tread mill is facing that way.. but it just looks funny is all.
- Dozzer

I don't think it looks like riemer at all. Sure looks like mclaren

I don't think it looks like riemer at all. Sure looks like mclaren
- burn

Whoever it is, he's poop.

I agree to an extent. The large pool of data is key, but there's too many kids pissing in it. The reasons for this have been discussed to death in these threads (eg. unscreened shots from the blueline have the same value as a clean breakaways). If you take the large pool of shot attempt data and qualify it with the ratio of legit scoring chances, it's going to give you a much stronger indication of how a team's performing, no?
- 1979AD

a lot of people smarter than me are not able to come up with a system you describe.
not to say its cant be done. I followed a leafs fan who tried to track a shot quality system that some thought Carlyle used.. since the leafs were able to win somehow..for a bit... well that didnt last..that was obliterated

i think its safe to say clarkson will be here for a few more years.

replace the coach, bring in a D man who is known to be good in his own end and resign some (not all) of the FAs and I will call the off-season a success.
- Dozzer

Orpik, Greene, Niskanen or Mitchell for UFA options, Gudbranson, Sustr, DeKeyser, and on a lower scale, ellerby, for RFA options. Wasn't there a rumour of a Gudbranson-Gardiner swap before? That would make hh happy.

Whoever it is, he's poop.
- Bigzby

I don't think it looks like riemer at all. Sure looks like mclaren
- burn

it doesnt matter.. at all

you go ahead and say ists mcclaren, i say its reimer.. and its not something i will lose sleep over lol

Mike Augello: Leafs Q & A – April 20th Edition
- mikeinbuffalo

Yes why are the laffs soft as slime? Is it because they don't hit the weight pile?

What a bunch of bs. I wonder how many concussions Johnny bower got playing against the likes of jfj sr. I hit the weight pile and I play real hockey so I am hard to play against. I'm very hard to play with as well. Did I mention that I play real hockey so I don't have to worry about this bs?

Orpik, Greene, Niskanen or Mitchell for UFA options, Gudbranson, Sustr, DeKeyser, and on a lower scale, ellerby, for RFA options. Wasn't there a rumour of a Gudbranson-Gardiner swap before? That would make hh happy.
- matt1337

we need a guy who can stabalize this D

that would be a nice future move.. but wont help now.

Yes why are the laffs soft as slime? Is it because they don't hit the weight pile?

What a bunch of bs. I wonder how many concussions Johnny bower got playing against the likes of jfj sr. I hit the weight pile and I play real hockey so I am hard to play against. I'm very hard to play with as well. Did I mention that I play real hockey so I don't have to worry about this bs?
- Skalapy

cool, what NHL team do you play for again?

Orpik, Greene, Niskanen or Mitchell for UFA options, Gudbranson, Sustr, DeKeyser, and on a lower scale, ellerby, for RFA options. Wasn't there a rumour of a Gudbranson-Gardiner swap before? That would make hh happy.
- matt1337

my top Targets would be Niskanen he is 27..some good stats
Tom Gilbert 31, would be good value at around 1 mil like Ranger
Stralman, only 27..underrated imo. was cheap..if he still is..would be a solid pickup

dump Dion and Franson if you could get those 3

now someone make me a D lineup with those changes

we need a guy who can stabalize this D

that would be a nice future move.. but wont help now.
- Dozzer

i know just remember it was a rumour from beforehand. though, i wouldn't be surprised if they go back to it now after the collapse. not to mention he's a right handed shot, something we lack. franson was our only right handed shot.

i know just remember it was a rumour from beforehand. though, i wouldn't be surprised if they go back to it now after the collapse. not to mention he's a right handed shot, something we lack. franson was our only right handed shot.
- matt1337

oh man then do it and fast.

and move franson out of town

my top Targets would be Niskanen he is 27..some good stats
Tom Gilbert 31, would be good value at around 1 mil like Ranger
Stralman, only 27..underrated imo. was cheap..if he still is..would be a solid pickup

dump Dion and Franson if you could get those 3

now someone make me a D lineup with those changes
- senstroll

Niskanen-Gardiner
Rielly-Gleason
Stralman-Gilbert

that would be my guess, i dont think many would be happy with that though

oh man then do it and fast.

and move franson out of town
- Dozzer

it's really hard to understand if this is sarcasm through the internet, but i do want to move franson out of town

Niskanen-Gardiner
Rielly-Gleason
Stralman-Gilbert

that would be my guess, i dont think many would be happy with that though
- matt1337

it's not very good