You know nothing of intangibles my friend.

They are worth 5mil a year, didn't you know?
- SolidGoldBricks

Good in the room is easily worth 5 mil x 8

I understand that losing = no heart to most fans. I dont really buy into that crap.
Its not something you can even say is a thing. What is heart? slamming your stick when you miss a shot? Defending the water bottle? Seabrook taking out Backes?

I just read a good article breaking down the system the leafs play.. every player on the team does the same thing.. this to me doesnt scream the Team has no heart. they are doing what they are told. It doesnt work. Well it does sometimes when you get hot shooting from Phil and .970 from Bernier. then Phil and Bernier have heart I guess that game.
- senstroll

talking about fighting through checks to get to scoring areas, taking a hit to clear the zone, forechecking.

We should all be hoping for a Habs Bruins matchup ...

Just imagine, knees to the head, shots to the groin... anything goes! No suspensions possible.
- Aetherial

talking about fighting through checks to get to scoring areas, taking a hit to clear the zone, forechecking.
- burn

(frank) that noise.

talking about fighting through checks to get to scoring areas, taking a hit to clear the zone, forechecking.
- burn

RC doesn't even have them doing this! Dump in the puck and then everybody go and change so that the other team can pick up the puck, stand waiting for their own change, and get back to centre ice without so much as a (frank)ing breath on their neck from anybody in blue and white...

RC doesn't even have them doing this! Dump in the puck and then everybody go and change so that the other team can pick up the puck, stand waiting for their own change, and get back to centre ice without so much as a (frank)ing breath on their neck from anybody in blue and white...
- lumlums

yeah!! and you know what else?!?!?

cosby needs to start pushing pudding pops again

yeah!! and you know what else?!?!?

cosby needs to start pushing pudding pops again
- Dozzer

I think that he forechecks the pudding pops more effectively...

talking about fighting through checks to get to scoring areas, taking a hit to clear the zone, forechecking.
- burn

i think commitment to defence is a big one, bigger than all those things you mention. the things you mention are all acts that are intended to create offence. i think real heart is committing to defence as well, even though there isn't much glory in it. guys like Kessel and JVR love to score. it's their commitment to defence that needs to improve.

I think that he forechecks the pudding pops more effectively...
- lumlums

do a search sometime

there is some seriously disturbing gifs of cosby with a pudding pop online

i think commitment to defence is a big one, bigger than all those things you mention. the things you mention are all acts that are intended to create offence. i think real heart is committing to defence as well, even though there isn't much glory in it. guys like Kessel and JVR love to score. it's their commitment to defence that needs to improve.
- DoubleDown

Agreed. Kessel definitely had some flashes of it last year, but it needs to be more consistent. Maybe come up with a new system where he gets a cookie for every backcheck, he'll be there in no time (plus the backchecking will help to work off the cookie)!

do a search sometime

there is some seriously disturbing gifs of cosby with a pudding pop online


- Dozzer

I most certainly am not going to do that

Good in the room is easily worth 5 mil x 8
- senstroll

I most certainly am not going to do that
- lumlums

http://img.pandawhale.com...-pudding-pop-gif-LuNb.gif

These are professional athletes, like I hate people I work with, I cant just slack off or under perform.

The leafs squadron is so irritating. I hate them all.

talking about fighting through checks to get to scoring areas, taking a hit to clear the zone, forechecking.
- burn

If they don't track stats for these things you speak of, they don't exist.

Not the biggest question the Leafs need to answer but maybe the easiest.

Who replaces Reimer after he is traded?

All UFA's below. Giguere anyone? Would love Elliott but he holds out for a starting job I think and likely too expensive.

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Player Pos Team Age Cap Hit Expiry

Miller, Ryan » G STL 33 $6,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Brodeur, Martin » G NJD 41 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Hiller, Jonas » G ANA 32 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Thomas, Tim » G DAL 40 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Halak, Jaroslav » G WAS 28 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Dubnyk, Devan » G MTL 27 $3,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Nabokov, Evgeni » G NYI 38 $3,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Bryzgalov, Ilya » G MIN 33 $2,266,234 2014 (UFA)
Khabibulin, Nikolai » G CHI 41 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Vokoun, Tomas » G PIT 37 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Elliott, Brian » G STL 29 $1,800,000 2014 (UFA)
Emery, Ray » G PHI 31 $1,650,000 2014 (UFA)
Giguere, Jean-Sebastien » G COL 36 $1,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Gustavsson, Jonas » G DET 29 $1,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Clemmensen, Scott » G FLA 36 $1,200,000 2014 (UFA)
Labarbera, Jason » G CHI 34 $1,000,000 2014 (UFA)
MacDonald, Joey » G CGY 34 $925,000 2014 (UFA)
Greiss, Thomas » G PHX 28 $750,000 2014 (UFA)
Nilstorp, Cristopher » G DAL 30 $725,000 2014 (UFA)
Danis, Yann » G PHI 32 $675,000 2014 (UFA)
Desjardins, Cedrick » G TBL 28 $650,000 2014 (UFA)
Lawson, Nathan » G OTT 30 $650,000 2014 (UFA)
Montoya, Al » G WPG 29 $601,000 2014 (UFA)
Johnson, Chad » G BOS 27 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
MacIntyre, Drew » G TOR 30 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
McElhinney, Curtis » G CLB 30 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
McKenna, Mike » G CLB 31 $595,000 2014 (UFA)
Leneveu, David » G NYR 30 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Reiter, Ken » G NYI 27 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Murphy, Mike » G CAR 25 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Leggio, David » G WAS 29 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Hutton, Carter » G NAS 28 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Curry, John » G MIN 30 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Peters, Justin » G CAR 27 $537,500 2014 (UFA)

Not the biggest question the Leafs need to answer but maybe the easiest.

Who replaces Reimer after he is traded?

All UFA's below. Giguere anyone? Would love Elliott but he holds out for a starting job I think and likely too expensive.

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Montoya, Al » G WPG 29 $601,000 2014 (UFA)

- D.Lemieux

Not the biggest question the Leafs need to answer but maybe the easiest.

Who replaces Reimer after he is traded?

All UFA's below. Giguere anyone? Would love Elliott but he holds out for a starting job I think and likely too expensive.

---------------------------------------

Player Pos Team Age Cap Hit Expiry

Miller, Ryan » G STL 33 $6,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Brodeur, Martin » G NJD 41 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Hiller, Jonas » G ANA 32 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Thomas, Tim » G DAL 40 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Halak, Jaroslav » G WAS 28 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Dubnyk, Devan » G MTL 27 $3,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Nabokov, Evgeni » G NYI 38 $3,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Bryzgalov, Ilya » G MIN 33 $2,266,234 2014 (UFA)
Khabibulin, Nikolai » G CHI 41 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Vokoun, Tomas » G PIT 37 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Elliott, Brian » G STL 29 $1,800,000 2014 (UFA)
Emery, Ray » G PHI 31 $1,650,000 2014 (UFA)
Giguere, Jean-Sebastien » G COL 36 $1,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Gustavsson, Jonas » G DET 29 $1,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Clemmensen, Scott » G FLA 36 $1,200,000 2014 (UFA)
Labarbera, Jason » G CHI 34 $1,000,000 2014 (UFA)
MacDonald, Joey » G CGY 34 $925,000 2014 (UFA)
Greiss, Thomas » G PHX 28 $750,000 2014 (UFA)
Nilstorp, Cristopher » G DAL 30 $725,000 2014 (UFA)
Danis, Yann » G PHI 32 $675,000 2014 (UFA)
Desjardins, Cedrick » G TBL 28 $650,000 2014 (UFA)
Lawson, Nathan » G OTT 30 $650,000 2014 (UFA)
Montoya, Al » G WPG 29 $601,000 2014 (UFA)
Johnson, Chad » G BOS 27 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
MacIntyre, Drew » G TOR 30 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
McElhinney, Curtis » G CLB 30 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
McKenna, Mike » G CLB 31 $595,000 2014 (UFA)
Leneveu, David » G NYR 30 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Reiter, Ken » G NYI 27 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Murphy, Mike » G CAR 25 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Leggio, David » G WAS 29 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Hutton, Carter » G NAS 28 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Curry, John » G MIN 30 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Peters, Justin » G CAR 27 $537,500 2014 (UFA)
- D.Lemieux

Chad Johnson; has been very good for Boston and is cheap

Chad Johnson; has been very good for Boston and is cheap
- lumlums

Id prefer someone whos been good on a poopty team lol

Not the biggest question the Leafs need to answer but maybe the easiest.

Who replaces Reimer after he is traded?

All UFA's below. Giguere anyone? Would love Elliott but he holds out for a starting job I think and likely too expensive.

---------------------------------------

Player Pos Team Age Cap Hit Expiry

Miller, Ryan » G STL 33 $6,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Brodeur, Martin » G NJD 41 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Hiller, Jonas » G ANA 32 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Thomas, Tim » G DAL 40 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Halak, Jaroslav » G WAS 28 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Dubnyk, Devan » G MTL 27 $3,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Nabokov, Evgeni » G NYI 38 $3,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Bryzgalov, Ilya » G MIN 33 $2,266,234 2014 (UFA)
Khabibulin, Nikolai » G CHI 41 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Vokoun, Tomas » G PIT 37 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Elliott, Brian » G STL 29 $1,800,000 2014 (UFA)
Emery, Ray » G PHI 31 $1,650,000 2014 (UFA)
Giguere, Jean-Sebastien » G COL 36 $1,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Gustavsson, Jonas » G DET 29 $1,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Clemmensen, Scott » G FLA 36 $1,200,000 2014 (UFA)
Labarbera, Jason » G CHI 34 $1,000,000 2014 (UFA)
MacDonald, Joey » G CGY 34 $925,000 2014 (UFA)
Greiss, Thomas » G PHX 28 $750,000 2014 (UFA)
Nilstorp, Cristopher » G DAL 30 $725,000 2014 (UFA)
Danis, Yann » G PHI 32 $675,000 2014 (UFA)
Desjardins, Cedrick » G TBL 28 $650,000 2014 (UFA)
Lawson, Nathan » G OTT 30 $650,000 2014 (UFA)
Montoya, Al » G WPG 29 $601,000 2014 (UFA)
Johnson, Chad » G BOS 27 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
MacIntyre, Drew » G TOR 30 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
McElhinney, Curtis » G CLB 30 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
McKenna, Mike » G CLB 31 $595,000 2014 (UFA)
Leneveu, David » G NYR 30 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Reiter, Ken » G NYI 27 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Murphy, Mike » G CAR 25 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Leggio, David » G WAS 29 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Hutton, Carter » G NAS 28 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Curry, John » G MIN 30 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Peters, Justin » G CAR 27 $537,500 2014 (UFA)
- D.Lemieux

Hmmm lots of options. I like Giggy too, but I wouldn't say no to Al Montoya either. If nothing else, to hear Mike Richards in the morning do his scarface impression after every game

Not the biggest question the Leafs need to answer but maybe the easiest.

Who replaces Reimer after he is traded?

All UFA's below. Giguere anyone? Would love Elliott but he holds out for a starting job I think and likely too expensive.

---------------------------------------

Player Pos Team Age Cap Hit Expiry

Miller, Ryan » G STL 33 $6,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Brodeur, Martin » G NJD 41 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Hiller, Jonas » G ANA 32 $4,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Thomas, Tim » G DAL 40 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Halak, Jaroslav » G WAS 28 $3,750,000 2014 (UFA)
Dubnyk, Devan » G MTL 27 $3,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Nabokov, Evgeni » G NYI 38 $3,250,000 2014 (UFA)
Bryzgalov, Ilya » G MIN 33 $2,266,234 2014 (UFA)
Khabibulin, Nikolai » G CHI 41 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Vokoun, Tomas » G PIT 37 $2,000,000 2014 (UFA)
Elliott, Brian » G STL 29 $1,800,000 2014 (UFA)
Emery, Ray » G PHI 31 $1,650,000 2014 (UFA)
Giguere, Jean-Sebastien » G COL 36 $1,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Gustavsson, Jonas » G DET 29 $1,500,000 2014 (UFA)
Clemmensen, Scott » G FLA 36 $1,200,000 2014 (UFA)
Labarbera, Jason » G CHI 34 $1,000,000 2014 (UFA)
MacDonald, Joey » G CGY 34 $925,000 2014 (UFA)
Greiss, Thomas » G PHX 28 $750,000 2014 (UFA)
Nilstorp, Cristopher » G DAL 30 $725,000 2014 (UFA)
Danis, Yann » G PHI 32 $675,000 2014 (UFA)
Desjardins, Cedrick » G TBL 28 $650,000 2014 (UFA)
Lawson, Nathan » G OTT 30 $650,000 2014 (UFA)
Montoya, Al » G WPG 29 $601,000 2014 (UFA)
Johnson, Chad » G BOS 27 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
MacIntyre, Drew » G TOR 30 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
McElhinney, Curtis » G CLB 30 $600,000 2014 (UFA)
McKenna, Mike » G CLB 31 $595,000 2014 (UFA)
Leneveu, David » G NYR 30 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Reiter, Ken » G NYI 27 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Murphy, Mike » G CAR 25 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Leggio, David » G WAS 29 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Hutton, Carter » G NAS 28 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Curry, John » G MIN 30 $550,000 2014 (UFA)
Peters, Justin » G CAR 27 $537,500 2014 (UFA)
- D.Lemieux

Leafs need someone cheap who can step in and play 25-30 games, because you have a smallish starting goalie who sees a ton a of rubber and is likely to battle injuries. but someone who also understands and accepts the backup role. Emery would be the perfect fit IMO.

i think commitment to defence is a big one, bigger than all those things you mention. the things you mention are all acts that are intended to create offence. i think real heart is committing to defence as well, even though there isn't much glory in it. guys like Kessel and JVR love to score. it's their commitment to defence that needs to improve.
- DoubleDown

so everyone has a different definition of "Heart"

so everyone has a different definition of "Heart"
- senstroll

My definition is the sexiest.

i think commitment to defence is a big one, bigger than all those things you mention. the things you mention are all acts that are intended to create offence. i think real heart is committing to defence as well, even though there isn't much glory in it. guys like Kessel and JVR love to score. it's their commitment to defence that needs to improve.
- DoubleDown

Taking a hit is all about defense.

so everyone has a different definition of "Heart"
- senstroll