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Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Apr 20 @ 11:19 PM ET
Tampa's D has been horrendous.
- ShafterBenRaide


Yup.

Granted, so has the O.
Pie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: taking the low road
Joined: 10.14.2006

Apr 20 @ 11:19 PM ET
Therrien is out-coaching Cooper, which is huge too.
- Michael_Stuart

I guess these are the elements I would have keyed in on in a blog. Anyway I do understand your frustration.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Apr 20 @ 11:20 PM ET
I guess these are the elements I would have keyed in on in a blog. Anyway I do understand your frustration.
- Pie


These are elements that have been keyed in on in blogs since the series started. The Canadiens deserve full credit for their 3-0 series lead. Tampa has been very, very bad.
Smitty98
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.16.2012

Apr 20 @ 11:20 PM ET
It's a shame that such a great game is overshadowed by poor officiating.
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Apr 20 @ 11:21 PM ET
RETRACTED

Bolts were dead in the water until that garbage penalty call on Briere and they scored on that PP to tie it at 1

Bad reffing goes both ways

- FinAddict
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Apr 20 @ 11:22 PM ET
Therrien is out-coaching Cooper, which is huge too.
- Michael_Stuart

Agreed.
andrest
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.15.2007

Apr 20 @ 11:22 PM ET
Therrien is out-coaching Cooper, which is huge too.
- Michael_Stuart

The comment Cooper made this morning that the Habs had already lost 2 series after leading 2 games to none was a mistake. I think Cooper is a great coach but it's evident that he needs training in how to talk to the media in the playoffs. You can't give the opposing fuel to motivate them!
RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Canada
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 20 @ 11:24 PM ET
The refs sucked
The bolts sucked
Lindback wasn't great , wasn't bad .. Same story all series
Cooper didnt have too many answers ..
MTL was good
Price was good
Therein is good

And cooper is going through the same processes that the rookies on the team are . It goes under the radar cause he's the coach , but this te has by far exceeded any expectations I ever held , and like bolts prospects said its a shame it may end so soon and with frustration because we can be better , it's still integral to development for these guys and cooper himself
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Apr 20 @ 11:24 PM ET
The comment Cooper made this morning that the Habs had already lost 2 series after leading 2 games to none was a mistake. I think Cooper is a great coach but it's evident that he needs training in how to talk to the media in the playoffs. You can't give the opposing fuel to motivate them!
- andrest


I'll disagree there. Montreal had a full tank of fuel heading into the game, if we're sticking with that analogy. It was a harmless comment. Now, if Tampa was up 2-0 and Cooper said "Montreal has never come back from a two game deficit," then I'd agree.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Apr 20 @ 11:25 PM ET
The refs sucked
The bolts sucked
Lindback wasn't great , wasn't bad .. Same story all series
Cooper didnt have too many answers ..
MTL was good
Price was good
Therein is good

And cooper is going through the same processes that the rookies on the team are . It goes under the radar cause he's the coach , but this te has by far exceeded any expectations I ever held , and like bolts prospects said its a shame it may end so soon and with frustration because we can be better , it's still integral to development for these guys and cooper himself

- RileyB77

Amen to this.
RileyB77
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Canada
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 20 @ 11:25 PM ET
The comment Cooper made this morning that the Habs had already lost 2 series after leading 2 games to none was a mistake. I think Cooper is a great coach but it's evident that he needs training in how to talk to the media in the playoffs. You can't give the opposing fuel to motivate them!
- andrest


So MTL coach isn't motivating Tampa by saying they know where palats injury is and they have to hit hard ?
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Apr 20 @ 11:26 PM ET
Hey Michael did you happen to catch who posted in this thread.

FinAddict I remember you, you were one of the two Leafs fans smoking up our board telling us how the Bolts would miss the playoffs while the Leafs would make it. GTFOutta here... you have the nerve to show your face on here after all that drivel you spewed.

I'm back (frank)ers... been a while but had some real life issues that had to be attended to so I couldn't be a keyboard warrior.

- stammerman

I'm not a Leafs fan, actually I despise them. My name is FIN ADDICT. Sharks have fins

And I've never smoked up the Bolts board, I like the Bolts.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Apr 20 @ 11:27 PM ET
"That no-goal call was particularly interesting when you consider a few things. First of all, notice that PK Subban effectively blocks Alex Killorn from vacating the crease. Secondly, take note of how the official who waives off the goal seemingly has no problem with the contact until the puck was put in the net. It was a delayed call. Finally, do you honestly believe that Price was impeded on that play? He had time to get back in position, and he essentially did. As nearly every reputable media personality, including each individual on the CBC crew, said, the goal should have counted. "

The refs apparent lack of interest is because no penalty was called. There are two degrees of goalie interference, the lesser waives off a goal but otherwise doesn't impact play and the more severe draws a penalty

Unlike the Olympics, contact with a goalie only stops play if a penalty is called. So as no penalty was being called the ref had no reason to "care" until the goal was scored.

But that doesn't fit the narrative so ignore it.

- ght120


I should have made my point more clear there. You're right on the ruling. What I was saying is that I would have liked to see the official give Killorn some warning there, as is often done. If a referee has an issue with something going on, often he'll point it out to the player during the course of play. That's all I was saying. Apologies for not making that clearer.
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Apr 20 @ 11:28 PM ET
Cooper is getting out coached, the players are showing their inexperience and getting outplayed, its amazing how much Palat changes a game though as they had fighting chances in 1 and 3 with him but no chance in game 2 without him.

Lindback is not the problem, not getting the puck past center ice for some reason is now foreign to the Lightning. And the D is not playing good.

Look at the regular season, the bolts did not score much on Montreal and Price so the O is doing what it did all year, its just now that Montreal is doing more then they did in the regular season.

The disallowed goal was bad, it changed the dynamic of the game there is no doubt. I don't care if by the rule its the right call the NHL needs to address the goalie interference in the off season.

Lastly booing a player that is injured, classless no excuses on that. Never boo a downed player.

I can only hope this experience leads to better things for the Bolts next season.

I hope they play hard and make Montreal earn the sweep, I would like to watch them one more time at the forum.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Apr 20 @ 11:28 PM ET
The refs sucked
The bolts sucked
Lindback wasn't great , wasn't bad .. Same story all series
Cooper didnt have too many answers ..
MTL was good
Price was good
Therein is good

And cooper is going through the same processes that the rookies on the team are . It goes under the radar cause he's the coach , but this te has by far exceeded any expectations I ever held , and like bolts prospects said its a shame it may end so soon and with frustration because we can be better , it's still integral to development for these guys and cooper himself

- RileyB77


Outside the first goal, Lindback had a great game.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Apr 20 @ 11:29 PM ET
I should have made my point more clear there. You're right on the ruling. What I was saying is that I would have liked to see the official give Killorn some warning there, as is often done. If a referee has an issue with something going on, often he'll point it out to the player during the course of play. That's all I was saying. Apologies for not making that clearer.
- Michael_Stuart

That, we can all agree with.

I'm curious about IF the refs did or didn't give him a "fair"warning.

IMO, goal should've counted.

But at 1-1 with the call made, it was still a "open" game.
Smitty98
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.16.2012

Apr 20 @ 11:30 PM ET
At the end of the day, the better team won. Lindback was farrrrrrrr busier than price.

Still, you can definitely make the argument that the goal that was disallowed could of changed the fate of the game. The better teams don't always win in hockey.
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Apr 20 @ 11:30 PM ET
Ok if you say so, SORRY but I swear that guys name is very similar to yours... must be the ADDICT part.

I'm not a Leafs fan, actually I despise them. My name is FIN ADDICT. Sharks have fins

And I've never smoked up the Bolts board, I like the Bolts.

- FinAddict

Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Apr 20 @ 11:31 PM ET
At the end of the day, the better team won. Lindback was farrrrrrrr busier than price.

Still, you can definitely make the argument that the goal that was disallowed could of changed the fate of the game. The better teams don't always win in hockey.

- Smitty98


Yup. Better team did win.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Apr 20 @ 11:31 PM ET
Ok if you say so, SORRY but I swear that guys name is very similar to yours... must be the ADDICT part.
- stammerman


PotvinFan
stammerman
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.05.2013

Apr 20 @ 11:32 PM ET
PotvinFan
- Michael_Stuart


That's him... SORRY FinAddict... I retract my statement towards you...
andrest
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 10.15.2007

Apr 20 @ 11:33 PM ET
I'll disagree there. Montreal had a full tank of fuel heading into the game, if we're sticking with that analogy. It was a harmless comment. Now, if Tampa was up 2-0 and Cooper said "Montreal has never come back from a two game deficit," then I'd agree.
- Michael_Stuart

I believe he tried to put pressure on Montreal. If I'm Therrien, I'd use that to motivate my players. My point is, Therrien must of tried to bring his players back to the game plan after coming back home leading 2 games to none. Therrien must of told the players the series wasn't won yet and now he could tell that Cooper made fun of the organization because Montreal already lost 2 series after leading after 2 games.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Apr 20 @ 11:34 PM ET
I believe he tried to put pressure on Montreal. If I'm Therrien, I'd use that to motivate my players. My point is, Therrien must of tried to bring his players back to the game plan after coming back home leading 2 games to none. Therrien must of told the players the series wasn't won yet and now he could tell that Cooper made fun of the organization because Montreal already lost 2 series after leading after 2 games.
- andrest


No doubt he tried to put pressure on Montreal. That tactic failed, but I don't really take issue with him using it.
FinAddict
Joined: 07.02.2010

Apr 20 @ 11:34 PM ET
That's him... SORRY FinAddict... I retract my statement towards you...

- stammerman

No harm no foul

There's tons of idiots on the Leaf boards it's easy to get mixed up
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Apr 20 @ 11:35 PM ET
Sharks now lead the game 3-2 after falling 2-0 early in the game.


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