Columbus Oliver Bjorkstrand looks like a great prospect. Pouliot sure Qbs that team.

I can stomach him for another year. Like I said he may encourage some trades

- VANTEL

DID WE JUST BECOME BEST FRIENDS?????

I can stomach him for another year. Like I said he may encourage some trades

- VANTEL

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- LeftCoaster

My theory is ice a cup contender or fall to bottom 5, otherwise you live in hockey limbo.

My theory is ice a cup contender or fall to bottom 5, otherwise you live in hockey limbo.
- VANTEL

With the parity in today's NHL you can ice a top eight (out of 30 teams) and compete for the cup. That said, I want change, but not silly poop, I want meaningful change.

With the parity in today's NHL you can ice a top eight (out of 30 teams) and compete for the cup. That said, I want change, but not silly poop, I want meaningful change.
- LeftCoaster

Now that is a challenge with all these NTCs . Edler Kesler Bieksa have all come out and said they don't want to go anywhere. I can't see the two local boys Hamhuis or Garrison waiving . I think Burrows wants to stay , so that leaves Higgins and Hansen , what could you get for them that would change this team?

This is where Torts comes in as a cleaner. The only ones without a NTC that could bring back a decent return would be Kassian Tanev or the 6 th overall.

So realistically what significant changes can anyone really expect?

9 current NTC /NMC on this roster for the next 4 years

Pavel Datsyuk - holy (frank)
- LeftCoaster

Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous! The scary part is how nonchalant it looked.

Yeah, that was pretty ridiculous! The scary part is how nonchalant it looked.
- Chest Rockwell

He has the kavorka

Now that is a challenge with all these NTCs . Edler Kesler Bieksa have all come out and said they don't want to go anywhere. I can't see the two local boys Hamhuis or Garrison waiving . I think Burrows wants to stay , so that leaves Higgins and Hansen , what could you get for them that would change this team?

This is where Torts comes in as a cleaner. The only ones without a NTC that could bring back a decent return would be Kassian Tanev or the 6 th overall.

So realistically what significant changes can anyone really expect?
- VANTEL

You're not understanding how a NTC works; if a team says they want to make changes and you're one of them, it simply gives them a choice of where they'd like to go. If the team really is prepared to move on without said player, and they want no part if it, they can be waived.

Kesler has a NTC but was open to moving to a select number of teams, other players can do the same. It's much easier for the new GM as he didn't hand out those NTC's. The Sedins are the only players that cannot be moved or waived under any circumstances. NMC!

This kid Pouliot looks like Morgan Reilly. He would be like getting a top 6 forward. great skater sees the whole ice. pairs nicely with Cedarholm also.

It think Pouliot Sutter and a first for Kesler would be a good move for Canucks.

This kid Pouliot looks like Morgan Reilly. He would be like getting a top 6 forward. great skater sees the whole ice. pairs nicely with Cedarholm also.

It think Pouliot Sutter and a first for Kesler would be a good move for Canucks.
- VANTEL

No - it would be a terrible move for the Canucks.

For Edler , the Oilers would give up Gagner, a 2nd and mid level D prospect like Martin Gernat. Take it or leave it, the Oilers and their league worst Defense wouldn't offer more.
- Jeropotato

I think Gagner just needs a change of scenery to get his career back on track. He's played close to 8 NHL seasons and he's ONLY 24 years old, for @#$@ sakes. And unfortunately it's all been on fairly lousy teams. He's had the misfortune of being with the Oil during arguably their worst historical period, and that is not going to do much for a player's growth, development, and confidence. That type of dynamic is precisely what stalls or even destroys young players careers.

Although I wouldn't do the trade you proposed, I wouldn't mind if Gagner was part of a larger deal (and also involve further or somewhat better quality assets). And especially given that Gagner's value (at least perception wise) is at its lowest. Of course I suppose that can be said of Edler as well. However, most managers value defenseman quite a bit higher, and Edler has all the physical tools ( and yes, EVEN talent ) I think he, too, just needs a change of scenery. It's apparent he has very little confidence.

You're not understanding how a NTC works; if a team says they want to make changes and you're one of them, it simply gives them a choice of where they'd like to go. If the team really is prepared to move on without said player, and they want no part if it, they can be waived.

Kesler has a NTC but was open to moving to a select number of teams, other players can do the same. It's much easier for the new GM as he didn't hand out those NTC's. The Sedins are the only players that cannot be moved or waived under any circumstances. NMC!
- LeftCoaster

Kesler vetoed CBJ and a few other teams this year. If I am Hamhuis and the new GM comes up to me and says we want to move you , I say no thanks I like Vancouver I have family here and I took less money to play here. Same with Garrison.

I don't see where waiving Edler for nothing is better than having him on the roster.

If you waive Burrows then you have a 3.6 mil cap hit on the Canucks and a 4.5 mil player on the Comets.

I don't see the new GM forcing NTCs to waive for at least another year.

No - it would be a terrible move for the Canucks.
- LeftCoaster

Really What do you see as the deal then?

I think Gagner just needs a change of scenery to get his career back on track. He's played close to 7 NHL seasons and he's ONLY 24 years old, for @#$@ sakes. And unfortunately it's all been on fairly lousy teams. He's had the misfortune of being with the Oil during arguably their worst historical period, and that is not going to do much for a player's growth, development, and confidence. That type of dynamic is precisely what stalls or even destroys young players careers.

Although I wouldn't do the trade you proposed, I wouldn't mind if Gagner was part of a larger deal (and also involve further or somewhat better quality assets). And especially given that Gagner's value (at least perception wise) is at its lowest. Of course I suppose that can be said of Edler as well. However, most managers value defenseman quite a bit higher, and Edler has all the physical tools ( and yes, EVEN talent ) I think he, too, just needs a change of scenery. It's apparent he has very little confidence.
- Zogg

Well, I guess the Canucks will just have to go out and get that better deal, I'm sure the phone will be ringin off the hook for the guy.

Kesler vetoed CBJ and a few other teams this year. If I am Hamhuis and the new GM comes up to me and says we want to move you , I say no thanks I like Vancouver I have family here and I took less money to play here. Same with Garrison.

I don't see where waiving Edler for nothing is better than having him on the roster.

If you waive Burrows then you have a 3.6 mil cap hit on the Canucks and a 4.5 mil player on the Comets.

I don't see the new GM forcing NTCs to waive for at least another year.
- VANTEL

You don't think the prospect of going to a contender appeals to a guy like Hammer?

Well, I guess the Canucks will just have to go out and get that better deal, I'm sure the phone will be ringin off the hook for the guy.
- Jeropotato

Gagner doesn't make any team better, he is like Schroeder

Hamhuis and the rest of the core already think they are playing for a contender.

Well, I guess the Canucks will just have to go out and get that better deal, I'm sure the phone will be ringin off the hook for the guy.
- Jeropotato

Ahhh, it's always refreshing to enjoy quality sarcasm

Yes, I guess the Canucks will have to go out and get a better deal, I don't think it will be as difficult as you seem to imply

Gagner doesn't make any team better, he is like Schroeder

Hamhuis and the rest of the core already think they are playing for a contender.
- VANTEL

How many 8 point games at the NHL does Schroeder have? Gagner is a victim of playing in Edmonton, I'd take him over Schroeder any day of the week.

Gagner doesn't make any team better, he is like Schroeder

Hamhuis and the rest of the core already think they are playing for a contender.
- VANTEL

You're going to give up on a player who is 24, who has played on a miserable team for what seems like eternity? (at least in hockey years) A guy who was drafted sixth way back when he was 18. His career started very well and there was much talk of great potential and promise, as he's always had a very good skill set and offensive abilities, and it's not like he's a smurf either. I would think it's very difficult to feel much enthusiasm/hope year after year when you've been on a perennial non-contender. It's reasonable to assume something like that would effect a player's performance and growth/progress.

Again, I feel a change of scenery for him (and Edler) would make a huge difference and revitalize/revive their careers.

How many 8 point games at the NHL does Schroeder have? Gagner is a victim of playing in Edmonton, I'd take him over Schroeder any day of the week.
- Chest Rockwell

Gagner had one week where he was a star.how many years has he played?

How many 8 point games at the NHL does Schroeder have? Gagner is a victim of playing in Edmonton, I'd take him over Schroeder any day of the week.
- Chest Rockwell

Gagner had one week where he was a star.how many years has he played?
- VANTEL

See my comments above and/or check out his statistical history

You're going to give up on a player who is 24, who has played on a miserable team for what seems like eternity? (at least in hockey years) A guy who was drafted sixth way back when he was 18. His career started very well and there was much talk of great potential and promise, as he's always had a very good skill set and offensive abilities, and it's not like he's a smurf either. I would think it's very difficult to feel much enthusiasm/hope year after year when you've been on a perennial non-contender.

Again, I feel a change of scenery for him (and Edler) would make a huge difference and revitalize/revive their careers.
- Zogg

I am not going to give up on a 24 yr old for another team because I was never on board with him.

He would never be part of my roster.