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BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:50 PM ET
I have also heard that he was cramping, which would lead you to assume he was dehydrated. But I still have my doubts. Hitch said it in the interview after slightly pausing, like he was trying to figure out what to say. Call me crazy, but I don't just believe what they say about injuries. Just the other day he said Tarasenko want ahead of schedule. And the schedule was to be evaluated after the 1st round or so.

Yet he was out there and was awesome.

- carcus


Cramping is pronounced by dehydration for a humber of reasons one of which usually is the result of shoot the word just disappeared from my memory. But there is acid your body produces as waste from muscles. K is usually the best way to disptach it. It creates burning, muscle fatigue and cramps.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:51 PM ET
Cramping is pronounced by dehydration for a humber of reasons one of which usually is the result of shoot the word just disappeared from my memory. But there is acid your body produces as waste from muscles. K is usually the best way to disptach it. It creates burning, muscle fatigue and cramps.
- BluemanGuruu

Lactic acid.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
I woke the entire building when Steener scored.

This series is far from over but I feel so much better about things this morning.

Ryan Miller finally stepped up big time.

People say the hawks had no business being in that game, without Ryan Miller the blues would not have made it to OT.

Maxime Lapierre played his best game as a Blue period. PERIOD

My question is how hurt is Toews? He did not look good after that hit by Reaves.

- sycsam


Fatty is correct. Miller was huge after the first.

But if Miller does jot give up the one sure soft goal and the Blues capitalize on. More their ten golden scoring chanes the game is about over in the first.

Consider the Hawks send cherry pickers in the NHL and they are not being burned by it.

It is semi genius move as many teams use their dman to keep a team like the Hawks hemmed in. But now the. Blues have to back away from the blue line a bit giving time and space to a talented team.

That can back fire on the Hawks more times than not. The Blues just need to bury their chances more.

For a second it reminded of the last two seasons where teh. Blues dominate most of the game, good saves by goalie and many saves made to look good with near empty nets and posts being hit and then giving up a goal the other way.

That changed woth Miller after the first. The Blues made Crawford looked better than he was, which was still damn good.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
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Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:59 PM ET
I think Roy needs to sit in favor of Oshie. if he is healthy.

I dont know who sits for Berg if he is back.

I cant say Porter Crack or Reaves deserve to sit.

maybe Ott but I thought he played a decent allbeit slow game last ngiht.

- sycsam

I can say Reaves easy.

Besides some great hits he made a number of poor decisions with the puck and looks a bit slow. I cannot say the same about Ott. Ott played more within himself, not taking himself or the team out of the play by going for the big hit. He kept it simple.

If Craknell and aporter play like that you cannot take them out.

Morrow looked fresher, with a bit more speed out there in a long while.

These guys have been hiding a few other gears yet.
cuethenoise
St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 01.22.2013

Apr 18 @ 2:25 PM ET
I can say Reaves easy.

Besides some great hits he made a number of poor decisions with the puck and looks a bit slow. I cannot say the same about Ott. Ott played more within himself, not taking himself or the team out of the play by going for the big hit. He kept it simple.

If Craknell and aporter play like that you cannot take them out.

Morrow looked fresher, with a bit more speed out there in a long while.

These guys have been hiding a few other gears yet.

- BluemanGuruu


I would say the opposite. Ott looked slow and broke up any plays that Steener got going. It wasn't until OT2 he started looking OK because everyone was at his speed. We need some speed on that 1st line. Looks like Oshie is going to be back for game 2. So hopefully he can push Ott down to that third line where he belongs.

You Reaves belongs on the fourth line. He THRIVES there!
Blues65
St Louis Blues
Location: Where hockey dreams die every April, MO
Joined: 10.22.2013

Apr 18 @ 2:42 PM ET
That was just what Hitch said. I don't believe that one bit.
- carcus


Bouwmeester's mannerisms on the ice were suggestive of leg cramps, so yeah I'll guess he spent OT2 on the trainer's table hooked up to an IV
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Apr 18 @ 4:23 PM ET
That was just what Hitch said. I don't believe that one bit.
- carcus


Panger mentioned jaybo cramping on the telecast too. Cujo used to get IV fluids between periods at certain times and after games when he was in Toronto.

stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Apr 18 @ 4:26 PM ET
I called Steen getting the 3OT goal last night. My brother asked as we were sitting there waiting for the first overtime who would win it. I said Morrow if it ends in 1 or 2 OTs, but that this was going into 3OT and Steen gets it then.



#SteenMachine #AlexanderSchnoz

- carcus


Lol. When I got back to our seats before the start of the 3rd OT, I called that we would score on the first shift. never so happy to be right.
stljam
St Louis Blues
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Joined: 02.02.2007

Apr 18 @ 4:27 PM ET
I can believe it. It is really easy to get dehydrated if you have not properly hydrated yourself 48 plus hours before hand. Add to that the extreme play and time playing.

But you have to be careful. If a guy drinks too much water you can have the opposite effect. The most likely ivs used would have the necessary salts. Then it takes about thrity plus minutes for actual results.

- BluemanGuruu


As someone who plays ice hockey, even with proper hydration before hand you still can get trouble with cramps especially in an area that is strained/injured/stressed anyway.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 18 @ 5:31 PM ET
Lol. When I got back to our seats before the start of the 3rd OT, I called that we would score on the first shift. never so happy to be right.
- stljam

I was sorry this morning that I gave up and went to bed. But I remember a 5-OT game for the Flyers and thought discretion was the better part of valor, since I had to work today. Great game to be at for you. Congrats.
stljam
St Louis Blues
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Apr 18 @ 5:41 PM ET
I was sorry this morning that I gave up and went to bed. But I remember a 5-OT game for the Flyers and thought discretion was the better part of valor, since I had to work today. Great game to be at for you. Congrats.
- bodiva88


Pens vs Flyers right? I was working on the east coast and stayed up and watched that game after flying in that night. Thank goodness for Mountain Dew but it was still a long day.
bodiva88
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Apr 18 @ 5:46 PM ET
Pens vs Flyers right? I was working on the east coast and stayed up and watched that game after flying in that night. Thank goodness for Mountain Dew but it was still a long day.
- stljam

Yes. Game started on my birthday. I thought I'd stayed up for the whole thing until people talked about a 4th OT penalty that I didn't remember. But I WAS awake for the 5th OT.
fattyboubatty
St Louis Blues
Location: st louis, MO
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 18 @ 5:46 PM ET
I woke the entire building when Steener scored.

This series is far from over but I feel so much better about things this morning.

Ryan Miller finally stepped up big time.

People say the hawks had no business being in that game, without Ryan Miller the blues would not have made it to OT.

Maxime Lapierre played his best game as a Blue period. PERIOD

My question is how hurt is Toews? He did not look good after that hit by Reaves.

- sycsam


Both teams got really good scoring chances but the reason I said that is because the Blues controlled the majority of the play in the game. The Hawks never mustered more than a couple minutes of sustained pressure and most of that came on power plays.

Toews definitely looked banged up as the game went on. Like I said a couple days ago, shoulder injuries dont hold up well in the playoffs. I remember when Al MacInnis took a shoulder injury against Van back in 02 I think it was. Even though he came back late in the series he was done. No one will pass up a chance to crunch you into the boards in the playoffs.

The series if far from over though. It will be hard to pick up a win in Chi with Q getting the matchups. Our fourth line looked great but they were matched up against Rozival and Leddy most of the night.

Still, the Blues are going to get another shot in the arm when Oshie comes back. They need him too, that top line needs to be more of the scoring threat that we've seen most of the season.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
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Apr 18 @ 11:23 PM ET
As someone who plays ice hockey, even with proper hydration before hand you still can get trouble with cramps especially in an area that is strained/injured/stressed anyway.
- stljam

I also play ice hockey. I was an infantryman and combat medic in the army. Serving in a hundred and twenty five plus degree heat with over sixty pounds of combat load on.

I understand such issues intimately.
truthBtold
St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 04.06.2014

Apr 19 @ 1:13 AM ET
I would say the opposite. Ott looked slow and broke up any plays that Steener got going. It wasn't until OT2 he started looking OK because everyone was at his speed. We need some speed on that 1st line. Looks like Oshie is going to be back for game 2. So hopefully he can push Ott down to that third line where he belongs.

You Reaves belongs on the fourth line. He THRIVES there!

- cuethenoise

I think the two out for bergie and osh should be Roy and porter.

I just think cracks brings a little more to the table than porter, and this series is just going to get more physical each game you can't afford to not have reaves on the bench just in case. Plus porter is not going to put up numbers this series that reaves wouldnt be able to.

Same with next series if we get by and colorade gets by i think that one may be more physical than this one and with the history already this season you would have to play reaves in that one also.. I don't think bergie is going to be coming back very soon, hope I am wrong but I think he is hurt worse than anyone else
truthBtold
St Louis Blues
Location: MO
Joined: 04.06.2014

Apr 19 @ 1:18 AM ET
I also play ice hockey. I was an infantryman and combat medic in the army. Serving in a hundred and twenty five plus degree heat with over sixty pounds of combat load on.

I understand such issues intimately.

- BluemanGuruu

Have to agree with blueman here. (thanks for you service). I played soccer professionally I know it's not hockey but dehydration is the same in any sport. I can remember getting cramps typically at the end of a long week or an extended game and I was never injured. Bo man will be fine tomorrow and from what I heard today osh was flying at practice... Let's get up 2-0 in the series, take one in chicago and win it back in STL....
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:02 AM ET
Did you guys stay up and watch the Stars/Ducks game? The no call on the Cogliano slash was brutal and led directly to the SH GWG. At first I thought how in the world can you not call a slash that breaks a stick and gives a goal scoring opportunity but then I saw Justin St. Pierre was one of the referees and understood completely. I wish he was retiring rather than Vanmassenhoven. St. Pierre is so bad.
stljam
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 02.02.2007

Apr 19 @ 12:02 PM ET
Anyone else hoping that enough things happen today so that Q grabs his crotch so much that Lotrimin contacts him for free supplies and to be its spokesman?

Wish my seats were behind the bench, I'd offer him a bottle.

BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
Have to agree with blueman here. (thanks for you service). I played soccer professionally I know it's not hockey but dehydration is the same in any sport. I can remember getting cramps typically at the end of a long week or an extended game and I was never injured. Bo man will be fine tomorrow and from what I heard today osh was flying at practice... Let's get up 2-0 in the series, take one in chicago and win it back in STL....
- truthBtold

You are welcome. It was my pleasure.

I was going to get technical. Because what it has to do with is you start drinking liquids to compensate. Meanwhile the body is flushing the excess pollutants your body produces from stress on the muscles like lactic acid and some others. This pulls water away from cell use in order to flush the toxins away.

Your body utilizing your largest organ, the skin, is also pulling loads of water from cell use in order to cool your rising temperature.

So it is not able to flush the toxins, the cells are not able to properly use water and you are losing minerals.

Two things tend to result with end being a form of shock that can kill a person because your body is no longer able to regulate your body temperature causing crashes.

Most likely. JayBo was experiencing a minor form of this. Hopefully the trainers are smart enough to warm the IV while administering it as a cool liquid can rapidly drop the temperature which can cause the body to go into shock, essentially from hypothermia. What? Yep even in one hundred and twenty five degrees yo u can get hypothermia.

So it is just a number of things going on that causes dehydration. I said it takes 48 or more hours to be properly hydrated. Which means most likely JayBo, especially given his age will again experience cramps today at some point, maybe not until after the game even. In truth 72 hours or more are needed for proper hydration. Every time you introduce stress, or diuretics you also compromise your body's ability to hydrate to various levels.

I will now stop this medical talk. I am not quite an expert but I do know the general reasons for crampsx. If you are dehydrated, which I think the one guy was getting at, you can dramatically increase the risk of injury.
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