Did you miss MacT's press conference where he said he's not adding anything unless its a top 2 Dman? Franson is not that.
- Iggysbff

True. We should make a play for yandle.

And clearly forgot P.K. Subban.


(No I don't think he belongs there, it was a joke... calm down ffs).
- Scabeh

Offence is the new Norris prerequisite for a defensman winning it, that said, PK would probably be on most GM's top ten list, IMO.

You think he's top-10 in the NHL?
- Feeling Glucky?

Wouldn't be allowed to come off the ice if he were a Leaf.

You think he's top-10 in the NHL?
- Feeling Glucky?

I think he proved to be this season.

I think he proved to be this season.
- Pecafan Fan

He did

Offence is the new Norris prerequisite for a defensman winning it, that said, PK would be probably be on most GM's top ten list, IMO.
- LeafMan

He's like Karlsson his offence is so good from the back and his mobility by far make up for his lacking defensive game.

I just don't like him because he seems like a douche but at least he be our douche like bolland was. What do you think he ll get on the open market or do we trade for his rights?
- Yeti1181

Going to over pay no matter what, if he is available it will be 4.5 to 5.5m range, 3 to 4 years I guess.

Wouldn't be allowed to come off the ice if he were a Leaf.
- Woderwick

We would turn on him quickly.

Offence is the new Norris prerequisite for a defensman winning it, that said, PK would be probably be on most GM's top ten list, IMO.
- LeafMan

Oh he'll have a chance to win another Norris in the future... I fully believe that, because you're right, offense does seem to count for alot.

But not this year, he doesn't deserve consideration.

He did
- robin_steele264

One season doesn't make a career....

Okay. I really don't think he's that great personally but meh.
- Yeti1181

The highest CF%rel in all the League for Dmen.

11th in D scoring despite missing 18 games. +12 on a poopty Flames team.

Mark Giordano CGY D 64 14 33 47 +12

We would turn on him quickly.
- Yeti1181

I don't think so, but Carlyle would play him 53 minutes a game.

Going to over pay no matter what, if he is available it will be 4.5 to 5.5m range, 3 to 4 years I guess.
- LeafMan

I was thinking 5.5-6.5

top UFA target, teams are gonna pony up for him.

Going to over pay no matter what, if he is available it will be 4.5 to 5.5m range, 3 to 4 years I guess.
- LeafMan

I could stomach 5 if he lets Phaneuf play the game he's always played and covered up when he takes chances.

I think he proved to be this season.
- Pecafan Fan

Would you trade Subban for him, straight up?

The highest CF%rel in all the League for Dmen.

11th in D scoring despite missing 18 games. +12 on a poopty Flames team.

Mark Giordano CGY D 64 14 33 47 +12
- Iggysbff

I'm not saying he hasn't had a good year but overall his career he's been very good but I'm not going to say great.

Would you trade Subban for him, straight up?
- Feeling Glucky?

Giordano is having a career year at 30. So, no.

I'm not saying he hasn't had a good year but overall his career he's been very good but I'm not going to say great.
- Yeti1181

I thought the argument was he was arguably a top 10 this season.

I thought the argument was he was arguably a top 10 this season.
- Pecafan Fan

No it was he's a top ten nothing originally was defined this year.

I thought the argument was he was arguably a top 10 this season.
- Pecafan Fan

It was never qualified that way.

Nobody's denying he had a great season...

but when you call somebody a top-10 d-man... you expect more than one season of that type of play.

No it was he's a top ten nothing originally was defined this year.
- Yeti1181

Well my position is that he is this season.

I thought the argument was he was arguably a top 10 this season.
- Pecafan Fan

I'll (frank)en take Gio...right now dammit. Better than anything Leafs iced this year.

Giordano is having a career year at 30. So, no.
- Pecafan Fan

Do you think the Leafs should trade their 8th overall, Kadri, and Gardiner for him, and that that package is garbage?

It was never qualified that way.

Nobody's denying he had a great season...

but when you call somebody a top-10 d-man... you expect more than one season of that type of play.
- Feeling Glucky?

He's had a pretty good career so far.


He's been unlucky to have it on a bad Flames team, though.

Well my position is that he is this season.
- Pecafan Fan

It was - centered around this years Norris candidates.