He's in most ballots top 10 in Norris voting.
- Iggysbff

Link please.

Okay so Giordano is not a top 10 D in the league... maybe out west he is? Ask him where he displays his gold medal?

Second - Kadri and Gardiner are not poop they have large upside but are not core players yet - thus the inclusion in every trade proposal...
- Mr_Smokey

You guys are (frank)ing hilarious!

He's in most ballots top 10 in Norris voting.
- Iggysbff

link?

We have no point shot. Literally
- Ihatebrianburke

Franson for Petry ....

link?
- Feeling Glucky?

Psst....I dont think you'll find one.

Okay so Giordano is not a top 10 D in the league... maybe out west he is? Ask him where he displays his gold medal?

Second - Kadri and Gardiner are not poop they have large upside but are not core players yet - thus the inclusion in every trade proposal...
- Mr_Smokey

I love this little bit of hater logic, trash talk fans saying they don't include anything of value when they make trade proposals, and use the fact that they're using those players in trade proposals as evidence that they're not valuable.

I think calling Giordano a top-10 guy in his division is fair.
- Feeling Glucky?

He got Norris consideration this year.

Link please.
- Yeti1181

The voting isnt done yet.

But this is from Friedman:

final list: Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Mark Giordano, Victor Hedman, Erik Karlsson, Niklas Kronwall, Ryan McDonagh, Alex Pietrangelo and Marc-Edouard Vlasic.

It came down to: Zdeno Chara, Drew Doughty, Duncan Keith, Ryan Suter and Shea Weber.

Stralman is a heavy lifter?
- Feeling Glucky?

well he is no gleason

He got Norris consideration this year.
- robin_steele264

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1 Erik Karlsson OTT D 82 20 54 74 -15 36 5 31 0 0 1 0 257 7.8 27:04 28.6 0.0
2 Duncan Keith CHI D 79 6 55 61 +22 28 3 21 0 1 3 0 198 3.0 24:38 30.1 0.0
3 Shea Weber NSH D 79 23 33 56 -2 52 12 26 0 0 4 1 195 11.8 26:54 30.7 0.0
4 Dustin Byfuglien WPG D 78 20 36 56 -20 86 8 26 0 0 1 1 256 7.8 23:05 25.4 0.0
5 Victor Hedman TBL D 75 13 42 55 +5 53 3 14 0 6 2 0 170 7.6 22:26 26.7 0.0
6 P.K. Subban MTL D 82 10 43 53 -4 81 4 23 0 0 1 1 204 4.9 24:36 26.8 0.0
7 Keith Yandle PHX D 82 8 45 53 -23 63 3 31 0 0 2 1 241 3.3 24:08 27.3 0.0
8 Alex Pietrangelo STL D 81 8 43 51 +20 32 2 18 0 1 1 0 164 4.9 25:21 31.9 0.0
9 James Wisniewski CBJ D 75 7 44 51 +0 61 3 28 0 0 1 0 166 4.2 22:37 24.5 0.0
10 Niklas Kronwall DET D 79 8 41 49 +0 44 5 25 0 1 0 0 110 7.3 24:18 31.4 0.0
11 Mark Giordano CGY D 64 14 33 47 +12 63 7 20 0 3 2 0 180 7.8 25:14 31.3 0.0

11th in 64 games - He makes Pha9 look like a #5 or #6

The voting isnt done yet.

But this is from Friedman:

final list: Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Mark Giordano, Victor Hedman, Erik Karlsson, Niklas Kronwall, Ryan McDonagh, Alex Pietrangelo and Marc-Edouard Vlasic.

It came down to: Zdeno Chara, Drew Doughty, Duncan Keith, Ryan Suter and Shea Weber.
- Iggysbff

you listed 12 names there.

You guys are (frank)ing hilarious!
- Iggysbff

I'd love the guy as our Captain, but he's not top 10 sorry. Having said that Calgary could get a major haul for him and getting a Kadri, Gardiner + 8th overall would be huge for the flames.... most Leaf fans would be pissed at that deal.

But Burke is running the show and who knows how his mind works.

Franson for Petry ....
- The Law

No we still need him but we also need a point shot

I really don't like orpik.
- Yeti1181

I don't think there is much of a choice UFA, trade route is the only way and there are not many shutdown types available out there.

The voting isnt done yet.

But this is from Friedman:

final list: Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Mark Giordano, Victor Hedman, Erik Karlsson, Niklas Kronwall, Ryan McDonagh, Alex Pietrangelo and Marc-Edouard Vlasic.

It came down to: Zdeno Chara, Drew Doughty, Duncan Keith, Ryan Suter and Shea Weber.
- Iggysbff

Okay. I really don't think he's that great personally but meh.

you listed 12 names there.
- Feeling Glucky?

And clearly forgot P.K. Subban.


(No I don't think he belongs there, it was a joke... calm down ffs).

Okay. I really don't think he's that great personally but meh.
- Yeti1181

apparently he's better than Seabrook or Yandle.

And clearly forgot P.K. Subban.


(No I don't think he belongs there, it was a joke... calm down ffs).
- Scabeh

I'd take PK over Giordano.

I think calling Giordano a top-10 guy in his division is fair.
- Feeling Glucky?

Your ignorance...


it's shining.

No we still need him but we also need a point shot
- Ihatebrianburke

Did you miss MacT's press conference where he said he's not adding anything unless its a top 2 Dman? Franson is not that.

I don't think there is much of a choice UFA, trade route is the only way and there are not many shutdown types available out there.
- LeafMan

I just don't like him because he seems like a douche but at least he be our douche like bolland was. What do you think he ll get on the open market or do we trade for his rights?

The voting isnt done yet.

But this is from Friedman:

final list: Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Mark Giordano, Victor Hedman, Erik Karlsson, Niklas Kronwall, Ryan McDonagh, Alex Pietrangelo and Marc-Edouard Vlasic.

It came down to: Zdeno Chara, Drew Doughty, Duncan Keith, Ryan Suter and Shea Weber.
- Iggysbff

He had a great year...... if your criteria for calling a player a top 10 in the league at anything is only what they did in the last season then you can't be taken seriously.

Your ignorance...


it's shining.
- Pecafan Fan

You think he's top-10 in the NHL?

And clearly forgot P.K. Subban.


(No I don't think he belongs there, it was a joke... calm down ffs).
- Scabeh

Trollbeh

You think he's top-10 in the NHL?
- Feeling Glucky?

I think this season he is