I'd toss in Riemer too!

I think Burke MAY go for...Riemer, Gardiner, 1st and a prospect due to him being able to draft more centers.
- Aaron85

Okay.. Flames can toss in Monahan and Glencross too. Now it's starting to look like a fair trade

He's been top 20 the past few years. Top 10 this year. And has a great contract. You dont get him for a package of guys you want to dump.
- Iggysbff

I didn't see Gio on the 2012 or 2013 top 20 list ......saw Phaneuf at 11 though.

This is crazy talk. You think acquiring a 23 year old #7 pick 20g/50pt scoring C, a 30+ point 24 year old D with upside, and a #8 overall pick would hamper a rebuild, and hanging on to a 30 year old defenseman would help with a rebuild?

Acquiring young, developing assets and futures is what a rebuild is all about. If you need veteran leadership to mentor the kids, you can get it pretty easily via FA. A deal like this would be a coup for the Flames' rebuild, and as much as I like Gio, it would be an overpayment on the Leafs' part.
- 1979AD

Look north of us (no offense Iggys) prospects and picks aren't everything, veteran presence is of equal importance. If Gardiner is our replacement for Gio we can cue the blowouts on a regular basis. We have two offensive defensemen already in Brodie and Russell....Isn't lack of defense the reason for this discussion in the first place?

Look north of us (no offense Iggys) prospects and picks aren't everything, veteran presence is of equal importance. If Gardiner is our replacement for Gio we can cue the blowouts on a regular basis. We have two offensive defensemen already in Brodie and Russell....Isn't lack of defense the reason for this discussion in the first place?
- Saskabush

if I'm Burke, and that deal is on the table... I take it in a split second, and overpay a UFA for leadership.

But that deal wouldn't be on the table.

I didn't see Gio on the 2012 or 2013 top 20 list ......saw Phaneuf at 11 though.
- The Law

Goes to show how flawed the voting is....they don't even know what position Ovechkin plays for Frank sakes!!

The fact that PK and Karlsson are voted the best DEFENSEMEN in the league is a joke. Last I checked a dmans job was to play defense, not win scoring races!

bellov leaving Oilers for KHL, they need phaneuf
- Jurco_28

Yeah what a huge hole that leaves in their squad!

Look north of us (no offense Iggys) prospects and picks aren't everything, veteran presence is of equal importance. If Gardiner is our replacement for Gio we can cue the blowouts on a regular basis. We have two offensive defensemen already in Brodie and Russell....Isn't lack of defense the reason for this discussion in the first place?
- Saskabush

Semantics ...They're talking 'value' and you're talking 'utility'. Everybody's right.

Look north of us (no offense Iggys) prospects and picks aren't everything, veteran presence is of equal importance. If Gardiner is our replacement for Gio we can cue the blowouts on a regular basis. We have two offensive defensemen already in Brodie and Russell....Isn't lack of defense the reason for this discussion in the first place?
- Saskabush

Like directly south of this post I'm quoting.

if I'm Burke, and that deal is on the table... I take it in a split second, and overpay a UFA for leadership.

But that deal wouldn't be on the table.
- Feeling Glucky?

I'd much rather have JVR than Kadri, I get that you guys think it's an overpayment, and it is. But that was the basis of the conversation, and it has been stated many times. The only way you guys get Gio is by massive Overpayment, so massive that a trade would not make sense for you guys.

Goes to show how flawed the voting is....they don't even know what position Ovechkin plays for Frank sakes!!

The fact that PK and Karlsson are voted the best DEFENSEMEN in the league is a joke. Last I checked a dmans job was to play defense, not win scoring races!
- Saskabush

Definitely flawed in favour of fancy PP statistics. Anytime those guys win over guys like Weber, Lidstrom, and Chara its a problem.

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I'd much rather have JVR than Kadri, I get that you guys think it's an overpayment, and it is. But that was the basis of the conversation, and it has been stated many times. The only way you guys get Gio is by massive Overpayment, so massive that a trade would not make sense for you guys.
- Saskabush

yeah no way JVR gets traded for bio you guys would have to massively over pay this way to get him.

not a bad price to see the Sharks vs. Kings

http://www.sportsnet.ca/b...nley-cup-playoff-tickets/

they did the same thing a few weeks ago when Montreal played Ottawa. gushed about Karlsson all night while slagging PK. Montreal only scored 7 goals that night.
- DoubleDown

ya and PK was bench after 10 minutes when the sens were 3-0

The best was when Glenn Healey jizzed all over himself about Karlsson regrouping behind the net instead of starting the breakout before the rest of his team was in position. "WHAT MATURITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mmmmmmmm that felt good.... oh is my mic still on?"
- 1979AD

he was a monster that night. (use pierre mcguire's voice)

bellov leaving Oilers for KHL, they need phaneuf
- Jurco_28

ya let's hope mctavish will deal his 3rd over pick for him +

So we talking Gio? Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?

The trade starts with Reimer.....build from there

ya let's hope mctavish will deal his 3rd over pick for him +
- h.buzz

Not a chance in hell

So we talking Gio? Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?

The trade starts with Reimer.....build from there
- The-O-G

Oh god, What have you done!

I think calling Giordano a top-10 guy in his division is fair.
- Feeling Glucky?

Watch some west games and you'll understand Gio is top 10 league wide!

Top 10 in division. What a dumb comment you showed your true ignorance.

- Garnie

Was it you who hacked me???

Watch some west games and you'll understand Gio is top 10 league wide!

Top 10 in division. What a dumb comment you showed your true ignorance.
- TandA4Flames

List your top 15 in order and then everybody can respond.

List your top 15 in order and then everybody can respond.
- The Law

nooooooo.........we'll all be dumber after reading it

List your top 15 in order and then everybody can respond.
- The Law

1. Weber
2. Doughty
3. Chara
4. Keith
5. Suter
6. Pietrangelo
7. Giordano

There, I only had to name 7

nooooooo.........we'll all be dumber after reading it
- the_eye