He should have stopped worrying about trying to pay cocktail waitresses to bang him and worried more about playing hockey.

Have fun in the Euro leagues Ville.
- dadeadhead

Speaking of this.. I have a very funny Ville Leino story that's probably not suitable for this board that a friend of mine witnessed downtown a few years ago..

No just don't think we need to have 2 of them could benefit more from a skilled center...
- bluengold12

How do you figure that neither of them are considered skilled?

He should have stopped worrying about trying to pay cocktail waitresses to bang him and worried more about playing hockey.

Have fun in the Euro leagues Ville.
- dadeadhead

FYI, his phone number and address are in the phone book.

Between grigorenko and armia, what do u think the odds are for atleast one of them cracking the nhl?
- joshs

both .. talking about in the future

So who do you think the coaches will be ? It would be awesome if trotz decided to take an assistant position. One can dream though

No offense but wasn't that supposed to be Grigerenko's job? Minus the strong part.. A big skilled center to give the puck to the wings.. I'd rather have that true skilled two way leader center.. The bigger ones tends to have a harder time making in the NHL
- bluengold12

No they just dont all thrive at 18 years old.

Joe Thornton was a below average NHL'er until he hit 20-21 years old.


Also Draisaitl is nothing like Grigorenko. Grigorenko is a pass happy playmaking center. Draisaitl is a puck posession physical center, he's more like Malkin

How do you figure that neither of them are considered skilled?
- HonkFortheGoose

..... Not saying they aren't skilled.. the skill is a precursor... The hockey sense and two way play/leadership is more what I'm talking about.. Which neither of the other two are known for..

why ? he can join the party in 2016 let him win gold in world jr etc .

it's going to be a unwatchable year again
- gerbe75pts

Or you just ice your 23 man roster and not worry about the world Juniors?

If he is ready to be here, he should be here, end of story.

only player i want with the 2nd pick

How do you figure that neither of them are considered skilled?
- HonkFortheGoose

Grigorenko is the most skilled player in the organization......

Grigorenko is the most skilled player in the organization......
- sbroads24

That is very accurate...and sad

FYI, his phone number and address are in the phone book.
- HonkFortheGoose

If you own a home in Erie county it is easy information to find out on anyone as far as an address goes.

Or you just ice your 23 man roster and not worry about the world Juniors?

If he is ready to be here, he should be here, end of story.
- ImThatGuy

I know you don't want to hear it but the goal is to get a top pick next year ..

then they all can develop together with a mix of vets etc ..

next year is going to be unbearable

That is very accurate...and sad
- Stripes77

It won't be sad when/if he pans out. He's got elite skill, just not developed.

If all goes right, we will have a powerhouse in 3/4 years

Grigorenko is the most skilled player in the organization......
- sbroads24

Journalists in Finland are speculating that Armia doesnt like playing in the AHL, is homesick, believes he should transfer to Buffalo (lol @ their translation) and that if he doesnt get some time in Buffalo, hes probably going back to Finland...

It won't be sad when/if he pans out. He's got elite skill, just not developed.

If all goes right, we will have a powerhouse in 3/4 years
- sbroads24

I hope he does pan out. If he does look out, its been a good sign the last week or so but lets see how it keeps going.

Journalists in Finland are speculating that Armia doesnt like playing in the AHL, is homesick, believes he should transfer to Buffalo (lol @ their translation) and that if he doesnt get some time in Buffalo, hes probably going back to Finland...
- theblueandgold

I will brake poop ..

“Buying him(Leino) out is a possibility. Buying him out is a tool we can use to improve our team.’ Murray said. “It’s a very good possibility. It’s not 100 percent, but it’s a very good possibility that’s one of our buyouts.”

Murray should be fired immediately.

No they just dont all thrive at 18 years old.

Joe Thornton was a below average NHL'er until he hit 20-21 years old.


Also Draisaitl is nothing like Grigorenko. Grigorenko is a pass happy playmaking center. Draisaitl is a puck posession physical center, he's more like Malkin
- sbroads24

Thornton was touted as a bust by many in his 1st 2 seasons.

I know you don't want to hear it but the goal is to get a top pick next year ..

then they all can develop together with a mix of vets etc ..

next year is going to be unbearable
- gerbe75pts

It has always been my goal to draft high next year.

You have him get a year in the NHL? Is Sam Bennette/Reinhart going to carry this team to the top? Doubtful

I know lets sign John Scott to play hockey again, cause he is goog in the locker room, and funny.

I will brake poop ..
- gerbe75pts

If you can understand Finnish

Journalists in Finland are speculating that Armia doesnt like playing in the AHL, is homesick, believes he should transfer to Buffalo (lol @ their translation) and that if he doesnt get some time in Buffalo, hes probably going back to Finland...
- theblueandgold

terry needs to find the hottest lady he can buy to be Armias "Girlfriend" for awhile to break that home sickness

If you own a home in Erie county it is easy information to find out on anyone as far as an address goes.
- dadeadhead

yes, because all real estate purchases are public record. But most people don't know that or where to go. Plus you have to pay for the information a lot of the time. It depends on where the purchase was made.

I know you don't want to hear it but the goal is to get a top pick next year ..

then they all can develop together with a mix of vets etc ..

next year is going to be unbearable
- gerbe75pts

I know you don't want to hear it but Murray has all ready said he will put the best players on the ice and wont just have all the young guys play in juniors and sign a bunch of 4th liners so they are bad.. The best players will play if Bennett or Reinhart or Draistil are drafted here and they show they are ready they will play here.....................

that's it for me ...





no more Euros for me ..



all USA , Canadian maybe some sweden

we can draft Zacha next year .. but that's it !!! lol