It's funny how everyone always misinterpets your posts. Coincidence I guess? Or maybe it's because you make comments like the one I responded too that need clarification? Now don't going exagerrating this now into some Snow apologists rant. You say something like you did like I was standing by waiting for the season to implode so i could be right. Sorry to say but this was a pretty obvious picture for most Jul 2nd. For the ones that had hope, good for you. For the ones that believed in the team we had and our coach and GM to help this team succeed this year well you're facking moron. Sorry. There isn't a Snow skeptic alive that didn't want to be wrong I assure you, myself included. Don't confuse Snow skeptic with common sense either.
- Cptmjl

No..there's only two I can think of

2nd bold: Yeah...that's about right
That said, it doesn't mean that I think you were cheering against the Isles. That's plain stupid. It means that I think some folks are far more willing to embrace critiquing him as opposed to eating crow if he were successful. If the Isles had made the second round of the playoffs, and I'm not talking about you specifically, but it would be far more quiet in terms of mentioning Snow.

fixed(hope I'm wrong)
- Cptmjl

No..there's only two I can think of

2nd bold: Yeah...that's about right
That said, it doesn't mean that I think you were cheering against the Isles. That's plain stupid. It means that I think some folks are far more willing to embrace critiquing him as opposed to eating crow if he were successful. If the Isles had made the second round of the playoffs, and I'm not talking about you specifically, but it would be far more quiet in terms of mentioning Snow.
- keaner17

The problem is we didn't and we won't so in a results oriented job he has failed.

The problem is we didn't and we won't so in a results oriented job he has failed.
- Cptmjl

Yup. If Snow was working on his third Stanley Cup, all would be fine and dandy.

And the hits just keep coming

B.D. Gallof ‏@BDGallof 2m

Persistent rumor in NHL offices: Barroway wants out clause from Barclays as part of deal for #isles

B.D. Gallof ‏@BDGallof 2m

This way if revenue projections are below expectation for fixed number of yrs: would be able to MOVE team #isles (no likely NOT nassau)

B.D. Gallof ‏@BDGallof now


Also completely up to Barclays if there is truth to this bc no such clause exists in the current deal #isles
- Vukota

No shortage of drama. We may end up in Quebec yet. Just kidding.

The problem is we didn't and we won't so in a results oriented job he has failed.
- Cptmjl

agreed

Yup. If Snow was working on his third Stanley Cup, all would be fine and dandy.
- UIF

and anything less?
(waiting for the "2 cups would be fine too" comment)

I don't think it's far-fetched to say that folks were going to be far more emotional/passionate in their criticism of Snow given this years failure than in his support if they moved on to the second round this year.

and anything less?
(waiting for the "2 cups would be fine too" comment)

I don't think it's far-fetched to say that folks were going to be far more emotional/passionate in their criticism of Snow given this years failure than in his support if they moved on to the second round this year.
- keaner17

This is called Begging the Question:
http://www.logicalfallaci...ion/begging-the-question/

The argument is silly. Snow would have had to put the pieces in place for this team to make it to the second round.

This is called Begging the Question:
http://www.logicalfallaci...ion/begging-the-question/

The argument is silly. Snow would have had to put the pieces in place for this team to make it to the second round.
- JimmyP

Well, I never expected it to drag out over two pages It was more an off the cuff comment, but as typical......

Well, I never expected it to drag out over two pages It was more an off the cuff comment, but as typical......
- keaner17

It was circular reasoning. If it makes you feel better then I agree with you - we would like Snow better if he was better at his job.

Amac signs a big deal.

30 million 6 years.... interesting?

It was circular reasoning. If it makes you feel better then I agree with you - we would like Snow better if he was better at his job.
- JimmyP

No..it became isolated at which point it was circular reasoning. The point was that he started with a handicap with many fans, much like DP did and therefore there was a lot of built up aggression ready to hit the fan after this years failure.

Ugh...MOVING ON!

Chris Triantafilis ‏@christriants 13m

Brock Nelson will play for Team USA at Worlds. Awesome. #MyDude #Isles

Chris Triantafilis ‏@christriants 13m

Brock Nelson will play for Team USA at Worlds. Awesome. #MyDude #Isles
- Vukota

Till he gets hurt.

Till he gets hurt.
- jimmc7722

Huh?

Nah, two different comparisons. Hamonic's play improved throughout the season where as Bailey did his usual act we've seen year after year.
- Vukota

Hamonic got a lot better as soon as AMac was put on another pairing. Dehaan helped stabilize the defense even more when he came up.

Next year could be interesting, but it's going to be a very young defense unless a move is made:

Hamonic Dehaan
Visnovsky Hickey
Strait Reinhart

Carkner Donovan

any bets that this is any different come the season opener? I think this is exactly what we're going to see as our defense.

As much as I hope Reinhart can step in as well as Dehaan did, I think we need one more solid top four defender. I do not think we're going to get one. I think we're going to see very little except for a new goaltender.

No shortage of drama. We may end up in Quebec yet. Just kidding.
- ses111

if they ever did move to seattle I could drive to a home game.

Chris Triantafilis ‏@christriants 13m

Brock Nelson will play for Team USA at Worlds. Awesome. #MyDude #Isles
- Vukota

Chris Triantafilis ‏@christriants 13m

Brock Nelson will play for Team USA at Worlds. Awesome. #MyDude #Isles
- Vukota

my next year projected point totals for the big three rookies up front:

Nelson - 20 goals, 25 assists, 45 points
Strome - 18 goals, 38 assists, 56 points
Lee - 22 goals, 19 assists, 41 points

someone save this for next spring

**edit - this is if they all stay healthy and play the year with the big club.

Till he gets hurt.
- jimmc7722

It's OK, Wang will get the IIHF to pay his salary.

Chris Triantafilis ‏@christriants 13m

Brock Nelson will play for Team USA at Worlds. Awesome. #MyDude #Isles
- Vukota

Donovan too.

my next year projected point totals for the big three rookies up front:

Nelson - 20 goals, 25 assists, 45 points
Strome - 18 goals, 38 assists, 56 points
Lee - 22 goals, 19 assists, 41 points

someone save this for next spring

**edit - this is if they all stay healthy and play the year with the big club.
- Isles_since_6

Nelson 16 goals 21 assist
Strome 25 goals 35 assist
Lee 30 goals 12 assist
JT 43 goals 50 assist
KO 30 goals 45 assist
Grabner 18 goals 12 assist
Bailey 10 goals 31 assist
Martin 10 goals 10 assist
Cal 16 goals 8 assist
Nielson 25 goals 35 assist
Cizikas 5 goals 18 assist
Mcdonald 15 goals 15 assist

Nabby 2.81 gaa
UFA (Hopeful) 2.45 gaa

Amac signs a big deal.

30 million 6 years.... interesting?
- jimmc7722

Interesting no. Funny yes.

And the hits just keep coming

B.D. Gallof ‏@BDGallof 2m

Persistent rumor in NHL offices: Barroway wants out clause from Barclays as part of deal for #islesB.D. Gallof ‏@BDGallof 2m

This way if revenue projections are below expectation for fixed number of yrs: would be able to MOVE team #isles (no likely NOT nassau)

B.D. Gallof ‏@BDGallof now

Also completely up to Barclays if there is truth to this bc no such clause exists in the current deal #isles
- Vukota

Will not happen...NHL doesn't want to lose a NY team...Wang and Barclays won't alllow it...

Will not happen...NHL doesn't want to lose a NY team...Wang and Barclays won't alllow it...
- kear20

I agree. They would be somewhere in NY. Cannot imagine Barroway wanting to take them out of NY anyway.