The Islanders have a lot of those...
- kear20

You are right they do and if two of them reach full potential they will be fine

Of course they are gonna say that.. What happens in the locker room stays there. Character matters... Isles are big on that.. Don't think he will be an option also for the fact that he is a BAD hockey player right now. Like i said I have no issues bringing In legit talent but I don't want another fix me up blocking these kids. These kids played well by themselves with our top forwards out..let's see how they fair in camp with some talent around them.
- Dan Petriw

That was the most impressive thing about those kids is they did it without JT and for the most part KO as well

Of course they are gonna say that.. What happens in the locker room stays there. Character matters... Isles are big on that.. Don't think he will be an option also for the fact that he is a BAD hockey player right now. Like i said I have no issues bringing In legit talent but I don't want another fix me up blocking these kids. These kids played well by themselves with our top forwards out..let's see how they fair in camp with some talent around them.
- Dan Petriw

Exactly! No more blocking the kids. Again if Lee can score 9 goals without JT in a short amount of time, he can score a lot more with him and create space for JT with his size.

If you are telling me they are bringing Camelleri or Vrbata fine. But id rather see our kids play than bringing in another reclamation project and hoping he works out
- Dan Petriw

I would be fine in bringing in anyone of those players you mentioned, but like I said in prior post, you are giving Snow to much credit of thinking he has a chance to bring in that caliber type player thru FA.
No worthy FA has decided to take the isles money in past, its not going to change NOW.

Wang-Snow-Cappy=consistent losing, and is FAR from APPEALING to anyone of worth.
Sorry but that's a fact!!!

Of course they are gonna say that.. What happens in the locker room stays there. Character matters... Isles are big on that.. Don't think he will be an option also for the fact that he is a BAD hockey player right now. Like i said I have no issues bringing In legit talent but I don't want another fix me up blocking these kids. These kids played well by themselves with our top forwards out..let's see how they fair in camp with some talent around them.
- Dan Petriw

What's happened in the lockerroom is he's continually named a Captain and called a leader.

As for past production, there's no doubt the drop in numbers is disturbing, though I refuse to believe he suddenly went from a guy who scored 39 goals in 2010 to one who can't crack a lineup in 2014.
I'm not saying this would be my top target, but certainly a guy a team in our shoes could stand to take a flyer on.
As for blocking kids. I'm also not interested in once again banking that our kids are ready to be hold vital roles on this team thus kissing next season goodbye as well. That didn't go so well this year.

What's happened in the lockerroom is he's continually named a Captain and called a leader.

As for past production, there's no doubt the drop in numbers is disturbing, though I refuse to believe he suddenly went from a guy who scored 39 goals in 2010 to one who can't crack a lineup in 2014.
I'm not saying this would be my top target, but certainly a guy a team in our shoes could stand to take a flyer on.
As for blocking kids. I'm also not interested in once again banking that our kids are ready to be hold vital roles on this team thus kissing next season goodbye as well. That didn't go so well this year.
- keaner17

We have to take the training wheels of kids like Lee and Nelson. We have to remember this is not the same as throwing an 18 year old Bailey into the fire. Lee and Nelson should be huge parts of this team going forward. No better time than this year to put them into prime time roles. Lee and Nelson should have been told to train hard and get ready for a big time shot. You have to show confidence in kids like Lee and Nelson with their talent.

That was the most impressive thing about those kids is they did it without JT and for the most part KO as well
- Vukota

Although it's all being done at the same time of year that Josh Bailey routinely shines

We have to take the training wheels of kids like Lee and Nelson. We have to remember this is not the same as throwing an 18 year old Bailey into the fire. Lee and Nelson should be huge parts of this team going forward. No better time than this year to put them into prime time roles. Lee and Nelson should have been told to train hard and get ready for a big time shot. You have to show confidence in kids like Lee and Nelson with their talent.
- ses111

We'd show plenty of confidence in them by allowing the Strome Lee Nelson line to continue. I'd plan to essentially elevate their role to a 2nd line role. Allow Nielsen Grabner and whoever else to take the 3rd line and then our bangers on the fourth line.
You put way too much risk into our season by saying 24 games was a big enough sample size to forgo searching for better options on your top line.

I would be fine in bringing in anyone of those players you mentioned, but like I said in prior post, you are giving Snow to much credit of thinking he has a chance to bring in that caliber type player thru FA.
No worthy FA has decided to take the isles money in past, its not going to change NOW.

Wang-Snow-Cappy=consistent losing, and is FAR from APPEALING to anyone of worth.
Sorry but that's a fact!!!
- Ur Not Me

I'm not saying what they are doing I'm saying what I would do. I'm not giving them credit for anything

We'd show plenty of confidence in them by allowing the Strome Lee Nelson line to continue. I'd plan to essentially elevate their role to a 2nd line role. Allow Nielsen Grabner and whoever else to take the 3rd line and then our bangers on the fourth line.
You put way too much risk into our season by saying 24 games was a big enough sample size to forgo searching for better options on your top line.
- keaner17

How is it a risk when you already have JT and KO on the 1st line? Lee is not going to have to carry that line. You put Strome and Nelson together on a second line. Anything is possible, but I cannot see Lee crashing and burning on that 1st line.

What's happened in the lockerroom is he's continually named a Captain and called a leader.

As for past production, there's no doubt the drop in numbers is disturbing, though I refuse to believe he suddenly went from a guy who scored 39 goals in 2010 to one who can't crack a lineup in 2014.
I'm not saying this would be my top target, but certainly a guy a team in our shoes could stand to take a flyer on.
As for blocking kids. I'm also not interested in once again banking that our kids are ready to be hold vital roles on this team thus kissing next season goodbye as well. That didn't go so well this year.
- keaner17

Really they didn't play well with Strome, Nelson and Lee playing quality minutes? So all the winning was happening with PMB and Regin playing valuable minutes? What I'm trying to say is bringing in a quality winger is fine. But it can't be some project. Also let's these kids fight it out in camp for playing time. Competition is a good thing

I'm not saying what they are doing I'm saying what I would do. I'm not giving them credit for anything
- Dan Petriw

Gotcha.... What most of us will do makes to much sense

Although it's all being done at the same time of year that Josh Bailey routinely shines
- keaner17

Difference is these kids are Rookies and not a bust

How is it a risk when you already have JT and KO on the 1st line? Lee is not going to have to carry that line. You put Strome and Nelson together on a second line. Anything is possible, but I cannot see Lee crashing and burning on that 1st line.
- ses111

The rationale should be to make the New York Islanders the best team they can be. Not how can we put Lee in the best position for his individual stats.
I'm not saying Lee won't ever work there, I'm simply saying if I want to make this team a BETTER team, I'm not answering that request by putting a guy who has 24 career games on my number one unit unless he's a kid like Crosby or JT.
I'd much rather find a top line player, and give kids like Lee a FULL season to hone their game. The risk/reward there is much better.

Really they didn't play well with Strome, Nelson and Lee playing quality minutes? So all the winning was happening with PMB and Regin playing valuable minutes? What I'm trying to say is bringing in a quality winger is fine. But it can't be some project. Also let's these kids fight it out in camp for playing time. Competition is a good thing
- Dan Petriw

Bingo

Difference is these kids are Rookies and not a bust
- Vukota

JOSH BAILEY IS NOT A BUST
.....in March/April

The rationale should be to make the New York Islanders the best team they can be. Not how can we put Lee in the best position for his individual stats.
I'm not saying Lee won't ever work there, I'm simply saying if I want to make this team a BETTER team, I'm not answering that request by putting a guy who has 24 career games on my number one unit unless he's a kid like Crosby or JT.
I'd much rather find a top line player, and give kids like Lee a FULL season to hone their game. The risk/reward there is much better.
- keaner17

In a perfect world they would bring in a Vanek type to play on the 1st line and let the kids play on a line together and let them do their thing. If they can't get that winger then you try Lee on the wing and see what happens

JOSH BAILEY IS NOT A BUST
.....in March/April
- keaner17

In a perfect world they would bring in a Vanek type to play on the 1st line and let the kids play on a line together and let them do their thing. If they can't get that winger then you try Lee on the wing and see what happens
- Vukota

Moulson?

Moulson?
- mighty13duck

He is not coming back and I would try to get somebody who doesn't need JT to produce

Really they didn't play well with Strome, Nelson and Lee playing quality minutes? So all the winning was happening with PMB and Regin playing valuable minutes? What I'm trying to say is bringing in a quality winger is fine. But it can't be some project. Also let's these kids fight it out in camp for playing time. Competition is a good thing
- Dan Petriw

I think we've found there's a big difference in what this team does from March-April over the last several years. The kids have done VERY well over the last month. I like what I see from those three a lot. I also like the idea of keeping those three intact while adding another player.

The project acquisitions are brought in as a result of this team not being a favorable destination. So the trick is to find a guy who you believe can flourish here. No one is frowning on a competitive environment, that's why you bring MORE talent in.

The rationale should be to make the New York Islanders the best team they can be. Not how can we put Lee in the best position for his individual stats.
I'm not saying Lee won't ever work there, I'm simply saying if I want to make this team a BETTER team, I'm not answering that request by putting a guy who has 24 career games on my number one unit unless he's a kid like Crosby or JT.
I'd much rather find a top line player, and give kids like Lee a FULL season to hone their game. The risk/reward there is much better.
- keaner17

I see Lee being on the first line as the best for the team. Wang and co have not shown the desire to provide the best team as possible. Instead of signing average FA's, I rather see what big time prospects like Lee could do on the 1st line and Nelson on the 2nd. I think this is the best for them and the team. We will just see how this plays out.

In a perfect world they would bring in a Vanek type to play on the 1st line and let the kids play on a line together and let them do their thing. If they can't get that winger then you try Lee on the wing and see what happens
- Vukota

Agreed. My point throughout this discussion has been that we should not conduct offseason business with the mindset that Lee is our top line RW.

Agreed. My point throughout this discussion has been that we should not conduct offseason business with the mindset that Lee is our top line RW.
- keaner17

agreed. We did this last year with Donovan and it wasn't pretty. Although I see Lee being much more effective than him.

Agreed. My point throughout this discussion has been that we should not conduct offseason business with the mindset that Lee is our top line RW.
- keaner17

I Agree