kasperrko
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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The only way I'd want Brodeur here is if they do not intend to extend Nabby. It would make absolutely zero sense to carry two goalies near 40 years of age. Signing Marty would have been a mistake last year and would be one this year as well. Let's aim a little higher here. - keaner17
all I said was that Brodeur is a better option than Nilsson and Poulin at this point. |
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kasperrko
New York Islanders |
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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Montoya? - Cptmjl
Yeah that is what I am thinking |
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keaner17
New York Islanders |
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Montoya? - Cptmjl
YES! |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Vukota
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Joined: 06.29.2007
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It really doesn't travel fast! - keaner17
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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all I said was that Brodeur is a better option than Nilsson and Poulin at this point. - kasperrko
For a single season run? sure. From a long term effect perspective, I'd rather see Nilsson log more icetime with the team than bring in an ancient Brodeur for a farewell tour. |
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kasperrko
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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For a single season run? sure. From a long term effect perspective, I'd rather see Nilsson log more icetime with the team than bring in an ancient Brodeur for a farewell tour. - keaner17
Still I think Brodeur is a better option than Nilsson. Having Nilsson log more ice time means you just gave up on the season already. He is not ready and everyone knows that |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Still I think Brodeur is a better option than Nilsson. Having Nilsson log more ice time means you just gave up on the season already. He is not ready and everyone knows that - kasperrko
He is not ready NOW. However, he's now officially had his first extended taste of the NHL. So he has a much better idea of what he needs to do to get up to speed to become a solid NHL goalie. His coaches in turn also have had an extended look at him in NHL action. They can better judge how he tracks pucks, plays angles, recovers, reads plays etc at NHL speeds. This allows them to work with him extensively during the offseason and provide a much improved Nilsson going into next season.
In a perfect world, we come away with a top tier goalie who can shoulder the load while Nabby takes say 30 games or so. Meanwhile Nilsson spends more time in the AHL. That said, a better prepared more driven Nilsson could be miles better for the health of this franchise next year than Brodeur on his death bed.... |
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LetsGoIsles
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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Seriously dude get off your high horse. You obviously don't know much about hockey - kasperrko
high horse?? i just repeated to you exactly what you said about me; if you cant take it, dont dish it.
as for brodeur...as just about everyone has agreed with me (NOW im on my high horse), id rather have the potential of nilsson having a great offseason and working on his fundamentals and possibly him having a breakout year than watching brodeur go through 3 hip replacements on his way to the geriatric home. |
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Dan Petriw
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Location: NY Joined: 12.03.2006
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He is not ready NOW. However, he's now officially had his first extended taste of the NHL. So he has a much better idea of what he needs to do to get up to speed to become a solid NHL goalie. His coaches in turn also have had an extended look at him in NHL action. They can better judge how he tracks pucks, plays angles, recovers, reads plays etc at NHL speeds. This allows them to work with him extensively during the offseason and provide a much improved Nilsson going into next season.
In a perfect world, we come away with a top tier goalie who can shoulder the load while Nabby takes say 30 games or so. Meanwhile Nilsson spends more time in the AHL. That said, a better prepared more driven Nilsson could be miles better for the health of this franchise next year than Brodeur on his death bed.... - keaner17
Nilsson needs to play 55-60 games in the Ahl next season.. Then we can talk about him being able to help the isles |
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kasperrko
New York Islanders |
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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Nilsson needs to play 55-60 games in the Ahl next season.. Then we can talk about him being able to help the isles - Dan Petriw
thank you Dan common sense prevails |
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kasperrko
New York Islanders |
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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high horse?? i just repeated to you exactly what you said about me; if you cant take it, dont dish it.
as for brodeur...as just about everyone has agreed with me (NOW im on my high horse), id rather have the potential of nilsson having a great offseason and working on his fundamentals and possibly him having a breakout year than watching brodeur go through 3 hip replacements on his way to the geriatric home. - LetsGoIsles
Well if you think Nilsson can help this team more than Brodeur can next year you are totally wrong. Now if you want Nilsson to play so you can get a real high draft pick then he is your man.
Look at Dans response below. It is common sense something a lot don't have int his organization or fan base |
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LetsGoIsles
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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Well if you think Nilsson can help this team more than Brodeur can next year you are totally wrong. Now if you want Nilsson to play so you can get a real high draft pick then he is your man.
Look at Dans response below. It is common sense something a lot don't have int his organization or fan base - kasperrko
whats funny is i agree with dans comment, nilsson does need 50-60 games in the AHL next year....having said that, he would be better than brodeur will be.
(also not a knock on dan, and i think hell agree with this, his opinion holds no more weight than anyone else that posts here...i happen to agree with him most of the time because he is rational and level headed) |
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kasperrko
New York Islanders |
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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whats funny is i agree with dans comment, nilsson does need 50-60 games in the AHL next year....having said that, he would be better than brodeur will be.
(also not a knock on dan, and i think hell agree with this, his opinion holds no more weight than anyone else that posts here...i happen to agree with him most of the time because he is rational and level headed) - LetsGoIsles
Okay you are contradicting yourself. So if you agree that Nilsson needs more time in the AHL then why do you say that he is a better option than a proven NHL goalie?
Even though he is older he would still help the younger guys |
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LetsGoIsles
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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Okay you are contradicting yourself. So if you agree that Nilsson needs more time in the AHL then why do you say that he is a better option than a proven NHL goalie?
Even though he is older he would still help the younger guys - kasperrko
its certainly not a contradiction kasper. |
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kasperrko
New York Islanders |
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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its certainly not a contradiction kasper. - LetsGoIsles
I guess I am trying to figure out the reasoning |
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UIF
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Location: NY Joined: 01.09.2009
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So, let's pretend we're a normal NHL team with normal management. Who would you folks want go after in free agency at F, D and G? |
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niteislander
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Location: NY Joined: 01.13.2010
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If they can not sign a Top tier goalie.. than sign Nabby and Marty to 1 year deals. Put Nillson in AHL and if 1/2 way through the season you are SURE he is ready.. bring him up and trade one of the other 2 guys for insurance to a playoff team. |
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UIF
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Location: NY Joined: 01.09.2009
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We're doomed if we're already down to the corpse of Marty Brodeur for a goaltender next year. The fact that people would accept that as an OK or even good move is frightening. |
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kasperrko
New York Islanders |
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Location: Spring Hill, FL Joined: 03.09.2007
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We're doomed if we're already down to the corpse of Marty Brodeur for a goaltender next year. The fact that people would accept that as an OK or even good move is frightening. - UIF
I just think it is better than Nilsson and Poulin. I would rather them sign a way better free agent goalie but this move seems like something the Islanders would do. SO I guess I am just setting myself up so I wont be to mad when it happens |
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niteislander
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Location: NY Joined: 01.13.2010
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So, let's pretend we're a normal NHL team with normal management. Who would you folks want go after in free agency at F, D and G? - UIF
F - Vanek... if not... Moulson.. Period.
D- http://capgeek.com/ufa-finder/?position_id=D one of these guys or do a trade to get Yandle (with the young kids playing well and cap issues I am guessing he is available).
Goalie... giggy, Elliot, Hallak, trade for a Gibson, Anderson/Lehrner, etc. don't care just do something. |
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keaner17
New York Islanders |
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Nilsson needs to play 55-60 games in the Ahl next season.. Then we can talk about him being able to help the isles - Dan Petriw
AHL time can just as easily ruin a goaltender as help him. See Poulin, Kevin. He very well might belong there next year, but I'd give careful consideration as to just where he should be after a full camp this year. At this moment, he definitely looks like someone who needs more time. Still, this offseason could be the biggest leap in his progression career wise.
In no way do I want the Isles to depend on Nilsson for any siginificant role next year, but I wouldn't say that his being here would be worse for the club than say Brodeur joining up for a year. |
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LetsGoIsles
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Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16 Joined: 01.26.2011
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I just think it is better than Nilsson and Poulin. I would rather them sign a way better free agent goalie but this move seems like something the Islanders would do. SO I guess I am just setting myself up so I wont be to mad when it happens - kasperrko
hmm...3 hours ago you said "but I will also not be upset if he did signed here", was this just a defense so you wont be mad when it happens? |
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keaner17
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Location: Prepared for the worst Joined: 07.12.2007
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Okay you are contradicting yourself. So if you agree that Nilsson needs more time in the AHL then why do you say that he is a better option than a proven NHL goalie?
Even though he is older he would still help the younger guys - kasperrko
Isn't that the point of having Nabokov around?
This is my point: While Brodeur is unquestionably one of the all time greats, he is no longer great. In fact he's pretty damn average. Nabokov is 3 years younger and will likely sign on for the year. Signing two geriatric goaltenders on a team that has frequent defensive breakdowns and odd man rushes against is a recipe for disaster. So in that case, my options would be like so:
1. Sign or trade for a true starter to pair with Nabby
2. Sign or trade for a true starter to pair with Nilsson
3. Sing Brodeur, say bye to Nabby and keep Nilsson up to learn from one of the best. (this one would make me nervous given Brodeurs age)
In no case do I want to see a 39 and near 42 year old goaltender on the same team. |
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UIF
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Location: NY Joined: 01.09.2009
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F - Vanek... if not... Moulson.. Period.
D- http://capgeek.com/ufa-finder/?position_id=D one of these guys or do a trade to get Yandle (with the young kids playing well and cap issues I am guessing he is available).
Goalie... giggy, Elliot, Hallak, trade for a Gibson, Anderson/Lehrner, etc. don't care just do something. - niteislander
I think the Vanek and Moulson ships have sailed. I'd like Jagr on a one-year special, but I have a feeling he might be in somewhat high demand, and wouldn't want to fall back on being an Islander. There aren't too many sure bets on the FA list at forward after the biggest names the Isles will have no shot at. Do you take a chance and make a strong offer right away to one of Gaborik, Heatley, Penner, who all come with their own risks (injury, motivation, etc)?
On D, what's the story with Orpik? Is he really heading for FA? I'd trade for his rights and make a ridiculous offer (no prayer if he hits FA, and probably not much of a chance even if they trade for the rights, but worth a shot...let him hear the number and turn it down). That's exactly the kind of physicality the D is sorely missing.
For G, I don't know...something. Maybe Halak...he seems like a guy that might be available early while people are fighting for Hiller and others. |
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