I think they have the Flyers 2015 2nd rd pick from the amac deal
- Vukota

yep

The Isles have had the #5 pick almost as much as the Oilers have had the #1

So sick of this shat. Really at the end of my rope with this team. We all say this to ourselves constantly but I for once mean it.
- Cptmjl

I'm with you. I will likely be a casual fan next year. The organization hasn't proven worthy of the amount of time I've spent following them.

I'm waiting to see what the roster will be in October. Snow will have to have an unprecedented off season to change my mind.

I'm with you. I will likely be a casual fan next year. The organization hasn't proven worthy of the amount of time I've spent following them.

I'm waiting to see what the roster will be in October. Snow will have to have an unprecedented off season to change my mind.
- JimmyP

I'm going to try to be a casual fan. I've been unsuccessful with past attempts at this but I can't stomach Snow, Wang, or Capuano anymore. They are so obviously bad at what they do it almost seems like they're trying to fail. It's an insult to every Islander fan's intelligence at this point. There's no debating it anymore and anyone who does is not worth engaging in said debate.
I wish I watched another sport besides the occaisional soccer game.

i dont get why people upset with Snow trading to get Vanek.

Vanek is one of the best Fowards in NHL. he is Montreal's top foward right now.
He put huge numbers as an Islander. Snow thought he could get him to resign.
But there is no comparison btween Moulson and Vanek. Vanek is 10X better than Moulson. ut we also traded moulson after we knew we were not resigning him.

All year round we hear how we tried of getting prospects. yes, snow messed up waiting to unload Vanek at deadline.

So we all know isles are better team then they finished and only a dman and goalie from being a legit team. (oh and a coach)

So if isles make playoffs next year, our pick that goes to Buffalo is a late round 1st pick. Its not the 1or2 required to get McDavid.

Look at isles starting team next year. Why do you need more prospects.
Nelson/Strome - Tavares - Okposo
Bailey - Nielson - Lee
Grabner - Strome/Nelson - Clutterbuck
Gallant/Halmo - Cizikis - Martin

DeHaan - Hamonic
Hickey - FREE AGENT (Viz not coming back - we should have traded him)
Czuczman - Reinhart/Strait/Carkner (we actually dont need Carkner)

so who cares if we give up one first rounder next year to buffalo. we are stacked with prospects. i actually love the way this kid Persson plays (he could make team)

which fowards would you punt off this team in favor of free agent?

i dont get why people upset with Snow trading to get Vanek.

Vanek is one of the best Fowards in NHL. he is Montreal's top foward right now.
He put huge numbers as an Islander. Snow thought he could get him to resign.
But there is no comparison btween Moulson and Vanek. Vanek is 10X better than Moulson. ut we also traded moulson after we knew we were not resigning him.

All year round we hear how we tried of getting prospects. yes, snow messed up waiting to unload Vanek at deadline.

So we all know isles are better team then they finished and only a dman and goalie from being a legit team. (oh and a coach)

So if isles make playoffs next year, our pick that goes to Buffalo is a late round 1st pick. Its not the 1or2 required to get McDavid.

Look at isles starting team next year. Why do you need more prospects.
Nelson/Strome - Tavares - Okposo
Bailey - Nielson - Lee
Grabner - Strome/Nelson - Clutterbuck
Gallant/Halmo - Cizikis - Martin

DeHaan - Hamonic
Hickey - FREE AGENT (Viz not coming back - we should have traded him)
Czuczman - Reinhart/Strait/Carkner (we actually dont need Carkner)

so who cares if we give up one first rounder next year to buffalo. we are stacked with prospects. i actually love the way this kid Persson plays (he could make team)

which fowards would you punt off this team in favor of free agent?
- Spartiarti

Moulson is so overrated. Nelson is already better than him. Enough Said.
Moulson will be a devil next year b/c he doesnt want to leave NY area. His plan backfired with Isles. That why Snow moved him.

i dont get why people upset with Snow trading to get Vanek.

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- Spartiarti

1) It didn't address the team's needs. Other positions should have been the focus.

2) Snow gave up too much in retrospect.

i dont get why people upset with Snow trading to get Vanek.

Vanek is one of the best Fowards in NHL. he is Montreal's top foward right now.
He put huge numbers as an Islander. Snow thought he could get him to resign.
But there is no comparison btween Moulson and Vanek. Vanek is 10X better than Moulson. ut we also traded moulson after we knew we were not resigning him.

All year round we hear how we tried of getting prospects. yes, snow messed up waiting to unload Vanek at deadline.

So we all know isles are better team then they finished and only a dman and goalie from being a legit team. (oh and a coach)

So if isles make playoffs next year, our pick that goes to Buffalo is a late round 1st pick. Its not the 1or2 required to get McDavid.

Look at isles starting team next year. Why do you need more prospects.
Nelson/Strome - Tavares - Okposo
Bailey - Nielson - Lee
Grabner - Strome/Nelson - Clutterbuck
Gallant/Halmo - Cizikis - Martin

DeHaan - Hamonic
Hickey - FREE AGENT (Viz not coming back - we should have traded him)
Czuczman - Reinhart/Strait/Carkner (we actually dont need Carkner)

so who cares if we give up one first rounder next year to buffalo. we are stacked with prospects. i actually love the way this kid Persson plays (he could make team)

which fowards would you punt off this team in favor of free agent?
- Spartiarti

Lol.

i dont get why people upset with Snow trading to get Vanek.

Vanek is one of the best Fowards in NHL. he is Montreal's top foward right now.
He put huge numbers as an Islander. Snow thought he could get him to resign.
But there is no comparison btween Moulson and Vanek. Vanek is 10X better than Moulson. ut we also traded moulson after we knew we were not resigning him.

All year round we hear how we tried of getting prospects. yes, snow messed up waiting to unload Vanek at deadline.

So we all know isles are better team then they finished and only a dman and goalie from being a legit team. (oh and a coach)

So if isles make playoffs next year, our pick that goes to Buffalo is a late round 1st pick. Its not the 1or2 required to get McDavid.

Look at isles starting team next year. Why do you need more prospects.
Nelson/Strome - Tavares - Okposo
Bailey - Nielson - Lee
Grabner - Strome/Nelson - Clutterbuck
Gallant/Halmo - Cizikis - Martin

DeHaan - Hamonic
Hickey - FREE AGENT (Viz not coming back - we should have traded him)
Czuczman - Reinhart/Strait/Carkner (we actually dont need Carkner)

so who cares if we give up one first rounder next year to buffalo. we are stacked with prospects. i actually love the way this kid Persson plays (he could make team)

which fowards would you punt off this team in favor of free agent?
- Spartiarti

Lee - Tavares - Okposo
Grabner - Nielson - Strome
Bailey- Nelson - Clutterbuck
McDonald - Cizikis - Martin

DeHaan - Hamonic
Hickey - FREE AGENT (Viz not coming back - we should have traded him)
Czuczman - Reinhart/Strait/Carkner (we actually dont need Carkner)

up front the top six have a lot of rookies we'd be relying on not to drop off after fairly successful rookie years. That's a huge risk.

on the back end...god that's young, inexperienced and assuming Reinhart is ready. Without Visnovsky we'd need a very solid defenseman to step in, and we'd need someone to run the PP. Personally I like dehaan, but crappy seems to want him on the second unit

there's a lot of ifs in that lineup. an NHL caliber starting goalie could ease some of that potential pain. Still very young and very risky.

i dont get why people upset with Snow trading to get Vanek.

Vanek is one of the best Fowards in NHL. he is Montreal's top foward right now.
He put huge numbers as an Islander. Snow thought he could get him to resign.
But there is no comparison btween Moulson and Vanek. Vanek is 10X better than Moulson. ut we also traded moulson after we knew we were not resigning him.

All year round we hear how we tried of getting prospects. yes, snow messed up waiting to unload Vanek at deadline.

So we all know isles are better team then they finished and only a dman and goalie from being a legit team. (oh and a coach)

So if isles make playoffs next year, our pick that goes to Buffalo is a late round 1st pick. Its not the 1or2 required to get McDavid.

Look at isles starting team next year. Why do you need more prospects.
Nelson/Strome - Tavares - Okposo
Bailey - Nielson - Lee
Grabner - Strome/Nelson - Clutterbuck
Gallant/Halmo - Cizikis - Martin

DeHaan - Hamonic
Hickey - FREE AGENT (Viz not coming back - we should have traded him)
Czuczman - Reinhart/Strait/Carkner (we actually dont need Carkner)

so who cares if we give up one first rounder next year to buffalo. we are stacked with prospects. i actually love the way this kid Persson plays (he could make team)

which fowards would you punt off this team in favor of free agent?
- Spartiarti

You seem to be missing why most people are upset about the vanek trade. He addressed an area that wasnt in need even though it was an upgrade and flagrantly neglects to add to an area that was in glaring need of help. Very few if any people would dispute who is better btn vanek and moulson. Thats not the debate.

i dont get why people upset with Snow trading to get Vanek.

Vanek is one of the best Fowards in NHL. he is Montreal's top foward right now.
He put huge numbers as an Islander. Snow thought he could get him to resign.
But there is no comparison btween Moulson and Vanek. Vanek is 10X better than Moulson. ut we also traded moulson after we knew we were not resigning him.

All year round we hear how we tried of getting prospects. yes, snow messed up waiting to unload Vanek at deadline.

So we all know isles are better team then they finished and only a dman and goalie from being a legit team. (oh and a coach)

So if isles make playoffs next year, our pick that goes to Buffalo is a late round 1st pick. Its not the 1or2 required to get McDavid.

Look at isles starting team next year. Why do you need more prospects.
Nelson/Strome - Tavares - Okposo
Bailey - Nielson - Lee
Grabner - Strome/Nelson - Clutterbuck
Gallant/Halmo - Cizikis - Martin

DeHaan - Hamonic
Hickey - FREE AGENT (Viz not coming back - we should have traded him)
Czuczman - Reinhart/Strait/Carkner (we actually dont need Carkner)

so who cares if we give up one first rounder next year to buffalo. we are stacked with prospects. i actually love the way this kid Persson plays (he could make team)

which fowards would you punt off this team in favor of free agent?
- Spartiarti

A team that cannot afford to toss away assets for nothing did just that. They might still be giving assets up for Vanek next year when he’s two teams removed from them. I can’t see how anyone can look back on that trade (series of trades, really) and say, “Yeah, Snow really killed it on that one, why are you guys so mad?” Dude, it was a friggin’ disaster, and I say that as someone who very much wanted to see a Tavares-Vanek combo on the Isles going forward. If you’re going to take a big chance like that, you better damn well at least recoup what you gave up when trading the “10X better player” at the deadline. Shoot, never mind what we gave up, the Sabres got just as good a return for Moulson at the deadline as the Isles did for Vanek.

And your lineup for next year is another lottery finish.

Once again people there are good players available at 5 just not a slam dunk franchise game changer there but their is legit talent there
- Dan Petriw

Ehlers is the guy I want

People said Drouin was feeding off MacKinnon, now MacKinnon isn't there
So now, obviously, Ehlers is just feeding off Drounin!

But for real, Ehlers

Ehlers is the guy I want

People said Drouin was feeding off MacKinnon, now MacKinnon isn't there
So now, obviously, Ehlers is just feeding off Drounin!

But for real, Ehlers
- Danformo

I heard that dude is grabner fast and someone mentioned he might be already better then Drouin but I don't know enough about any of these guys. Also heard Delcolle (sp) might be NHL ready already

I heard that dude is grabner fast and someone mentioned he might be already better then Drouin but I don't know enough about any of these guys. Also heard Delcolle (sp) might be NHL ready already
- Vukota

I am more in the dark with this draft than any other before.

I am more in the dark with this draft than any other before.
- Cptmjl

If the islanders keep the pick, do you think they go offense, defense, or goaltending? Outside of ekblad, I think theres only 1 other defender projected in the top 15 and hes more towards the 10-15 range.

If the islanders keep the pick, do you think they go offense, defense, or goaltending? Outside of ekblad, I think theres only 1 other defender projected in the top 15 and hes more towards the 10-15 range.
- rangerdanger94

Offense

If the islanders keep the pick, do you think they go offense, defense, or goaltending? Outside of ekblad, I think theres only 1 other defender projected in the top 15 and hes more towards the 10-15 range.
- rangerdanger94

They need a sniper in the top 6. As of now, Strome may be their best sniper

In order I want

Bennett
Reinhart
Dal Colle
Ehlers

The Vanek trade was definitely a mistake in retrospect, however I don't agree with the idea that it didn't address a 'need'. It certainly did. It simply wasn't our most dire need. As I had said from day one of that trade though, it wasn't about the 2013-14 Isles. It was supposed to be about 2013 and beyond and that's why it was an epic fail...you can't give that much up without some assurance the guy was going to sign an extension.

Still, it was very apparent after the Pens series that the Isles needed an elite talent to pair with JT and free up some ice. That certainly was a 'need'.

Unfortunately, Garth missed bad on guessing that Donovan was ready for a major role and the isles could get by on Nabby and our untested rooks.

I'm going to try to be a casual fan. I've been unsuccessful with past attempts at this but I can't stomach Snow, Wang, or Capuano anymore. They are so obviously bad at what they do it almost seems like they're trying to fail. It's an insult to every Islander fan's intelligence at this point. There's no debating it anymore and anyone who does is not worth engaging in said debate.
I wish I watched another sport besides the occasional soccer game.
- Cptmjl

I was on the verge of it this year. The rookies are what really kept me around.

Cappy coming back has crushed my spirit. I fully expect Snow to dig through the waiver wire for signings then announce we have the last pieces in place. If that happens there's no way I'll be scheduling my free time around the Islanders anymore. I'll still be a fan. I'll read about them and check the scores. I'll watch games when it's convenient.

I was on the verge of it this year. The rookies are what really kept me around.

Cappy coming back has crushed my spirit. I fully expect Snow to dig through the waiver wire for signings then announce we have the last pieces in place. If that happens there's no way I'll be scheduling my free time around the Islanders anymore. I'll still be a fan. I'll read about them and check the scores. I'll watch games when it's convenient.
- JimmyP

It's April...I'll check back with you in October.
Everyone on this board is an avid fan. It's why we're still posting here weeks and weeks after this team's pulse had stopped. You can say you're not coming back or going to tone down the fanfare, but I don't buy it from anyone here. We'll be here come draft time...we'll be here come October and we'll be here come gametime to talk about it. That's what diehards do, for better or worse.

I was on the verge of it this year. The rookies are what really kept me around.
Cappy coming back has crushed my spirit. I fully expect Snow to dig through the waiver wire for signings then announce we have the last pieces in place. If that happens there's no way I'll be scheduling my free time around the Islanders anymore. I'll still be a fan. I'll read about them and check the scores. I'll watch games when it's convenient.
- JimmyP

I like watching kids develop. The problem is watching them develop under someone like Capuano. These kids are going to need an extra cylinder with him as coach. We will NEVER see their full potential with him behind the bench. Yet Snow endorses him for next season and questions why anyone would even ask if his job is in jeapordy like the rest of the world is a bunch of morons. Funny thing is his record doesn't dictate that he's on to something nobody else is. In fact the rest of the world thinks he's a clown and rightfully so.
I like watching the kids break into the league but I'm sick of it at the same time. I'd rather watch a winning team like we all would. It's been far too long. I've been watching "kids develop" longer than most of the posters on here have been alive. Enough is enough.

They need a sniper in the top 6. As of now, Strome may be their best sniper

In order I want

Bennett
Reinhart
Dal Colle
Ehlers
- Danformo

Collberg will be given every chance to make this team. The pressure they're going to put on that kid will either drive him or destroy him.

My choice is Reinhart, but I need to catch up on these kids more...

Collberg will be given every chance to make this team. The pressure they're going to put on that kid will either drive him or destroy him.

My choice is Reinhart, but I need to catch up on these kids more...
- keaner17

He'll be on the first line next year

I was thinking more Marty backing up Reimer or Anderson.
- ses111

If they want an AARP member for a back up they'll just keep Nabakov