- TheJerseyDevil1

Personally I have always thought Guy Carbonneau was a good coach and deserves another go at it

Poile had better have a MONSTER of a hire coming in. If not....this is a terrible move.

The fact that this roster was anywhere near making the playoffs is a miracle.

The next system will have to be awesome...if not this is a bottom 5 team.

Any guesses as who played the best since the Legwand trade? Engage meaningless stat chart.

https://docs.google.com/s...RSSXJ3ZlpfNGc&usp=sharing

Any guesses as who played the best since the Legwand trade? Engage meaningless stat chart.

https://docs.google.com/s...RSSXJ3ZlpfNGc&usp=sharing
- YouAreTheGovt

Viva Calle Jarnkrok.

It would appear that Patric Hornqvist took the trade deadline to say "Fine, I'll do everything"...then other players started playing well.

Trotz is a classy guy and he had a hell of a run. I think the Predators knew what they had with him and that's why he was given great opportunities to work with great players. He's good for another go at coaching and I can see him go off to a franchise with tons of potential.
He'll be fine and so will the Preds as there is always a time that you need to change.

It would appear that Patric Hornqvist took the trade deadline to say "Fine, I'll do everything"...then other players started playing well.
- YouAreTheGovt

Hornqvist started to light it up after his child was born.

Edit: 15 points in the last 10 games being a daddy.

Trotz is a classy guy and he had a hell of a run. I think the Predators knew what they had with him and that's why he was given great opportunities to work with great players. He's good for another go at coaching and I can see him go off to a franchise with tons of potential.
He'll be fine and so will the Preds as there is always a time that you need to change.
- dnano27

Can we have McLellan?

Much appreciated!

Actually, never thought of this but Barry is from dauphin right? That could be a big reason for this.

Laviolette watch.
- TheJerseyDevil1

His system wouldn't work, as there are not enough offensive weapons. He prefers an up-tempo style where the defenseman are always pinching, and never showed an desire to change that based on team construction.

well dress him in blue and call him a leaf!!!!!!

No he didn't and no it's not.

He was a great coach for putting the team on the map. His defensive style helped usher in one of the best defense corps and goalie tandems in the league, but it was never enough.

15 years without a division title.
15 years with only two playoff round wins.

There's more talent on this team than people think. The Preds won't stop playing defense just because Trotz has moved on, but the offense might open up now. It was time. He'll do well for another team with veteran talent. Just don't ask him to be part of a youth movement because he doesn't develop young forwards well at all.
- Predaceous

yikes i guess everyone is allowed to have a POV

So who is going to do a better job with the current group of players if Rinne is injured all of next year? Trotz held this team together in the toughest division in hockey, and was dealt crap hand after crap hand by Poile.
- jmatchett383

Do you actually think Poile went out and just picked up guys without any input from Trotz? All those FA's last yr were the Predator Grit players that Trotz wanted and claimed were missing from their game.

The upshot is he's not particularly adept working with young forwards. Give him the Arnotts and Kariyas, Sullivans etc.. he did well. Experienced guys. To say that the growth of drafted guys like Smith, Wilson has been uninspiring is a gross understatement. Hornqvist is an outlier because his game is so based on taking endless abuse. Erat asked out last year because he just couldn't stomach it anymore and Webers comments last week were the real nail in the coffin.

Say what? This guy has got teams into the playoffs that have had no business being there over and over again
- Allforhim12

yeah that year we had a 104 pts.. what a doormat..

You want to make a ridiculous generalization like that, do some homework first.

Their first playoff team admittedly backed in but stop with the canadian cool aide that all of Nashville's playoff teams have been a joke. it's just not true.

If Vokoun hadn't have come up with those mysterious bloodclots a week before the season ends we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Do you actually think Poile went out and just picked up guys without any input from Trotz? All those FA's last yr were the Predator Grit players that Trotz wanted and claimed were missing from their game.

The upshot is he's not particularly adept working with young forwards. Give him the Arnotts and Kariyas, Sullivans etc.. he did well. Experienced guys. To say that the growth of drafted guys like Smith, Wilson has been uninspiring is a gross understatement. Hornqvist is an outlier because his game is so based on taking endless abuse. Erat asked out last year because he just couldn't stomach it anymore and Webers comments last week were the real nail in the coffin.
- coaster28

And that reply does not answer the question I asked (Who is going to do a better job with the current group of players if Rinne is injured all of next year?), not does it address the fact that, in the toughest division in hockey, he almost led them to the playoffs after their prize goalie went down. And if he's only good at working with experiences guys, then it's on the GM to give him players with which he can work.

And that reply does not answer the question I asked (Who is going to do a better job with the current group of players if Rinne is injured all of next year?), not does it address the fact that, in the toughest division in hockey, he almost led them to the playoffs after their prize goalie went down. And if he's only good at working with experiences guys, then it's on the GM to give him players with which he can work.
- jmatchett383

you said Poile dealt him a crap hand.. I say that is a hand that Trotz had a significant amount of input on.

I'd love to see Poile go outside the box and look at Boughner or Scott Walker who both have strong ties to the organization. It will likely be Housley.

you said Poile dealt him a crap hand.. I say that is a hand that Trotz had a significant amount of input on.

I'd love to see Poile go outside the box and look at Boughner or Scott Walker who both have strong ties to the organization. It will likely be Housley.
- coaster28

Given Poile's seeming inability/ownership's seeming unwillingness to land the big-name FA, I'm sure Trotz had input so far as, "We have to win by having a bare bones offsense that plays well defensively." Maybe if Poile could actually bring in a legit offensive weapon, Poile wouldn't have to go that route.

I have been a Nashville fan for a long time, since '98 to be exact. As sad as I am to see Trotzy not be renewed, I am really happy he has a chance to move forward with his career. I read another article that he has been offered another position in the club, but where I could really see him shine is as an Assistant coach that specializes on a defensive system that will compliment the offense of the team he joins. Personally I believe that D.P. needs to be let go as well. He has not really done anything but hinder the team by matching the rediculous offer sheet on Shea Weber, yes Weber is our captain and was at the time, but going into a season with a cut salary cap and matching that contract really hurt the team. No matter what happens in the off season, whether they go into rebuild or keep some of the long term guys, I will continue to cheer for them. Lets strive for a winning season again next year, but lets make playoffs

Paul McCann: Barry Trotz - An Appreciation of the Man
- pmccann

While i was one whom has posted on this sight that it was time for Trotz to go, i must add that I always had great respect for Coach Trotz and alway's will. Best wishes to him in his future.

His system wouldn't work, as there are not enough offensive weapons. He prefers an up-tempo style where the defenseman are always pinching, and never showed an desire to change that based on team construction.
- jmatchett383

I dunno. I'll grant you that their forwards aren't where they could be for his system, but they have a lot of pinch-capable Dmen in MDZ, Ellis, Josi, Jones.

I think an uptempo, offensive style would be welcomed here

Coaches lose teams after a while. Its best to recognize that as a coach and move on before THEY move you on.

His coaching style never did much to make me want to watch a Nashville game, in fact I have to say I hope he goes on to other choices for income.
- organicsteroid

He's been offered a position with Preds Hockey Operations. He can choose to stay with the organization if he wants to, but if the coaching bug still has him then he'll be an easy choice for some other teams out there.

That's what did him in IMO. He ruined a lot of offensive players. If he stayed, guys like Forsberg would get turned into 3rd line scrubs that can't score. The guy can coach defenses like nobody's business, but he suffocates his teams offensively worse than Tortorella.
- GOODPLAYA20

Exactly, and it's best to move on with someone who can develop our forwards before Trotz gets his hands on them. He likes to 'break' young players who are offensively creative, but pose a bit of a defensive liability. I wonder how much he squashed out of Colin Wilson to be honest. I'm just glad that he won't be able to do it to Jarnkrok, Forsberg, Sisson and others who will be ready to appear on the Preds roster soon.

Utmost respect to Trotz, but that was just his way. If you're a vet you can get away with it. If you're young, you become a healthy scratch until you learn your lesson.

So who is going to do a better job with the current group of players if Rinne is injured all of next year? Trotz held this team together in the toughest division in hockey, and was dealt crap hand after crap hand by Poile.
- jmatchett383

That's not exactly true. In the off-season they had their Skate of the Union. At that event Poile explained that he and Trotz sat down after the season to figure out what went wrong and how they could make it back to the playoffs. Trotz thought they needed a return to 'Predator Hockey' which is a euphemism for boring offense and strict defense. Poile went out and got Trotz exactly who he wanted for the roster. Trotz had a hand in picking his team.

And I'm not so sure it was Trotz who held the team together. I think they have enough pride that they wanted to do it themselves. The last run the team went on was definitely not Trotz hockey. They scored a lot, they gave up a lot of goals, but the bottom line is, they won.

This team has offensive talent. Trotz stifled it. They brought in Stalberg to do some scoring and Trotz relegated him to the 4th line alongside Clune and Gaustad. No one is going to tally a ton of goals with those guys as linemates. In the meantime he kept Bourque on the 2nd line with more talented linemates all season long. This despite the fact that Bourque was producing less on the 2nd line than Stalberg on the 4th line.

I'm pretty sure the next coach will only make things better. Under Trotz the Preds have been shutout more than any other team, and not just this season. Over the last four seasons. They also had a ridiculous amount of games where they only scored 1 goal. They couldn't score in the shootout. The next coach would have to suck an awful lot to reach those depths of offensive ineptitude.

My guess is that Housley will be the next coach. I think they brought him in for just this situation, and I think he would be excellent.

Say what? This guy has got teams into the playoffs that have had no business being there over and over again
- Allforhim12

And then what? Pretty much nothing, that's what. When he did have a team with a ton of firepower, a team that ended up 3 points from the President's Trophy in 2007 they won exactly 1 playoff game.

I won't discount what he did for the team in the past. He put them on the map for sure. But it's been 15 years. That's enough of a sample size to know the team won't go any further with him. If your goal is to just make the playoffs then Trotz is your guy. If you want to make some noise in the playoffs it's better to find a coach who knows how to adapt and make adjustments during a series. That was one of Trotz's weak points.

Poile had better have a MONSTER of a hire coming in. If not....this is a terrible move.

The fact that this roster was anywhere near making the playoffs is a miracle.

The next system will have to be awesome...if not this is a bottom 5 team.
- PoileRulezzzYo

They were close to making the playoffs because they made a run at the end of the season. A run that included teams with nothing to play for. It's a mirage. This team wasn't as close to the playoffs as the standings indicate. Chicago didn't even play their best players. They took Hossa out of the game after his goal. Minnesota was trying to stay injury free.