Very well
- PhillySportsGuy

I liked him here, but that ship has sailed. Don't think he got the respect because he was paired with Pronger. I still think the Mac signing is a good thing and yes would have been nice if it was less money.

You can't be serious.
- Pecafan Fan

You would have to watch every Flyer game before and after Amac came here.
The D has been much better since he arrived.
They gave up 2 picks to get the guy and there was no way they were letting him walk.

If he had signed for 4.5 per yr everyone would be raving about how great it was.
Well maybe not everyone, the Corsi people hate him.

So they maybe overpaid a bit. It was a necessary signing.
Letting Carle walk set their D back and they weren't going to make the same mistake with Amac.

So yes he is serious and he's right.

I liked him here, but that ship has sailed. Don't think he got the respect because he was paired with Pronger. I still think the Mac signing is a good thing and yes would have been nice if it was less money.
- LJF

I think the argument is that the team could find a more reasonable replacement for Mac. Possibly a guy like Stralman or maybe they just pay an extra $1M per year and get Niskanen.

Travis Yost @TravisHeHateMe

The problem with the Andrew MacDonald deal is that he sucks.

Ryan Lambert says the same thing about Mason.

I think the argument is that the team could find a more reasonable replacement for Mac. Possibly a guy like Stralman or maybe they just pay an extra $1M per year and get Niskanen.
- PhillySportsGuy

The thing about Niskanen is that a dozen teams will be chasing him. Now I think he gets 7/42.

Flyers will be trading for Shea Weber
Kimmo will resign for 3mill

Weber/Kimmo
Coburn/AMac
Streit/Ghost

Dan Girardi @ $5.5M or MacDonald @ $5M?
- Tomahawk

Ugh. Neither -- that can't be what we go with in trying to win the Stanley Cup.

I'm just one guy on the internet. But I don't think that giving these second-tier players that kind of term and money -- Jesus Christ.

He's not as good as Coburn. We need to replace Timonen -- and that's gonna cost money and assets. It's gonna be expensive -- and that HAS TO BE DONE. I don't think we can win a Stanley Cup if we don't!

God bless Andrew MacDonald, but if you're not as good as Coburn, and you're not as good as Timonen -- FFS, that's what we need!

You would have to watch every Flyer game before and after Amac came here.
The D has been much better since he arrived.
They gave up 2 picks to get the guy and there was no way they were letting him walk.

If he had signed for 4.5 per yr everyone would be raving about how great it was.
Well maybe not everyone, the Corsi people hate him.

So they maybe overpaid a bit. It was a necessary signing.
Letting Carle walk set their D back and they weren't going to make the same mistake with Amac.

So yes he is serious and he's right.
- Marc D

I dont hate the deal. I feel like they could have shopped around a bit though. I doubt any team was going to match that offer. It's not like they saved a bunch by locking him up early. What if they could have gotten Boyle for 1 year or Markov for 2 years or Niskanen for close to the same rate?

Flyers will be trading for Shea Weber
Kimmo will resign for 3mill

Weber/Kimmo
Coburn/AMac
Streit/Ghost


- Winning

I see that, in addition to not noting that Nashville has no desire to trade him, you're also ignnoring the salary cap.

I've said it several times I like the way Mac and Schenn play, but that probably won't be the pairing. I still have hope for Schenn.

Speaking of Schenn, they still haven't done anything with B Schenn right? What are thoughts on him? I like him, but he tends to disappear for stretches.

I don't know why he keeps repeating the false claim that MacDonald is only a 4/5. He wasn't that in New York and he hasn't been that here.
- Feanor

I think because he believes that on an appropriately populated blue line, that's all McDonald should be, no matter how the inappropriately populated from a perspective of skillsets Flyers have used him.

Ryan Lambert says the same thing about Mason.



The thing about Niskanen is that a dozen teams will be chasing him. Now I think he gets 7/42.
- Feanor

For a dman with 1 good season under his belt and simply adequate defensive skills?

Yeah scratch my name off that list.

Travis Yost @TravisHeHateMe

The problem with the Andrew MacDonald deal is that he sucks.
- keatondixon

The problem with Yost is he doesn't actually watch the games.
He is a demon with those fancy charts though.

As long as the cap continues to increase, it is. But still, that's a long time for a guy who, really, hasn't produced at that level. I know he's a two-way defender, but I expected a bit more offense out of him at this point.
- jmatchett383

He didn't put up a lot of points as a Flyer, but still finished up with 28 points. I think that can be improved, and he can put up around 35 points or so.

He definitely compares more closely to guys like Jonathan Ericsson and Niklas Hjalmarsson... both who just re-signed at $3.25M and $4.1M respectively.
- Tomahawk

I think we have to admit that staying with the only NHL team you have played for, the defending champion Chicago Blackhawks or the never-miss-the-playoffs Redwings, is a little more appealing than signing with the Flyers after 20 games.

And Ericsson is getting $4.25m for six years, not $3.25m. And he's already 30. And he had 11 points in 48 games this year. And his career high points total is 15.

He didn't put up a lot of points as a Flyer, but still finished up with 28 points. I think that can be improved, and he can put up around 35 points or so.
- MJL

He can, but I'd like to see a little more out of him is all. If he's getting PP time, he better be producing.

Only if a player is able to live up to said contract.
- jak521

If he plays to the level that he played at this Season, he will live up to it.

Happy to see the deal amac got. Fair value for a guy his age and 20 mpg.

Props to holmgren for signing him.

And Dion Phaneuf is making more than $2M a year more than Ryan McDonagh. But it was a deal Toronto had to make. You can't just do apples to apples because you have to factor in team needs. Should Ovechkin be making more than Toews?
- jmatchett383

I understand fully. I was just pointing out that he is going to be paid very richly.. he is the 28th highest paid d-man in the league.

I understand prices and costs and what have you, have gone up... but I still think 6 years at 5 mil for a guy who is really rather one dimensional... thats a tough pill to swallow for me.

Its a problem the org. has created themselves...

Ya now ya can't think this team will go very far. They are good but not that good IMO
Good for the good second half hour f a season but pain is coming soon
- GodIsaCatholic

Go away troll, Boston's about to be upset by the Wings book it.

Solid deal. Another quality signing by the GM.
- MJL

A little high for my tastes. But as long as the cap is going up it could turn out to be a good market deal.

If he plays to the level that he played at this Season, he will live up to it.
- MJL

What level is that? A top end number 1-2 all situation d-man?

I would love to see everyone if they played this out until the offseason. Flyers would have tried other avenues. AMAC gets solid 5.5-6 mill ea year from another club. Flyers end up with Steve eminger type for 3 million and need to replace kimmo so rush prospect or not ready youngster into lineup. Then everyone is up in arms why the flyers didn't sign AMAC before the offseason. Can't win either way. This move can't be argued until the offseason as there will probably be other variables.

He didn't put up a lot of points as a Flyer, but still finished up with 28 points. I think that can be improved, and he can put up around 35 points or so.
- MJL

His P/60 is lower than Grossmann and Schenn... guy can transition the puck, but he's not going to contribute much in terms of point production.

For a dman with 1 good season under his belt and simply adequate defensive skills?

Yeah scratch my name off that list.
- Giroux_Is_God

I like Niskanen. He's always had talent, but lacked consistency. I don't think his offensive numbers sustainable because he spent much of the season on the Pens top PP unit. I think he's better than Mac though and I would have paid $6M for him instead of $5M for Mac. It appears he's going to get a lot more than $6M though.