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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
It was probably around $5M for multiple years, honestly. That's what guys like him will make, fair and just or not.
- jmatchett383



Well, he's a better player than Byfuglien, so...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
Just think of it this way. Mac's cap hit is more than Pronger's...

- FlyersGrace


In Homer's defense, he's not allowed to do another Pronger-type deal.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 2m
Andrew MacDonald extension RT @davegisaac: MacDonald’s deal is six years $30 million.


- PhillySportsGuy

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
Well, he's a better player than Byfuglien, so...
- Tomahawk


You will never hear me say that.
Now that I've not said that, AMac cost cap space, Buff would cost cap space + high assets.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:54 AM ET

- Cptmjl


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/standings/?show=conference
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
Can also think of it as instead of a 6 million cap hit for Kimmo they are replacing him with a 5 million cap hit. So were are saving a million. I really think this signing is done with the knowledge kimmo is not back.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer 6m
Akeson taking 3rd line rushes. No Downie.

Good thing we waited until the end of the season to play Akeson. No need to get him some NHL experience before the playoffs

- PhillySportsGuy

I would assume there would be some maintenance days tucked in here.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
You will never hear me say that.
Now that I've not said that, AMac cost cap space, Buff would cost cap space + high assets.

- jmatchett383



Nah, not you. Was a running joke from a few days ago.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Well, he's a better player than Byfuglien, so...
- Tomahawk


Anyone who wouldn't make a deal for Byfuglien based on salary #iswrong
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Can also think of it as instead of a 6 million cap hit for Kimmo they are replacing him with a 5 million cap hit. So were are saving a million. I really think this signing is done with the knowledge kimmo is not back.
- J35Bacher


Again, if Kimmo wants to come back, they'll most likely move one of Grossmann/L Schenn and replace him with Lauridsen/Alt, and keep the forward unit pretty much the same. Plus, I don't know if Kimmo can command another $6M deal.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Amac extended per Flyers facebook

Edit: Laught as (frank)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Anyone who wouldn't make a deal for Byfuglien based on salary #iswrong
- PhillySportsGuy


Agreed.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Apr 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Was it ever in doubt?

Edit: MacD
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Amac extended per Flyers facebook
- Giroux_Is_God


link/term?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
Good thing Holmer tacked on those extra years to sweeten that cap hit


For the love of God
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Apr 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
link/term?
- jmatchett383

Haven't seen the specs yet.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
I wish my salary increased by 1000%
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
I wish my salary increased by 1000%
- Streit2ThePoint


Work on your outlet passing.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Apr 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
Haven't seen the specs yet.
- Pixote Andolini


jsaquella ‏@jsaquella 2m
Readily available asset. MacDonald is a solid 4/5 defenseman. A6 year $30mm commitment to that kind if guy is too much
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
Can also think of it as instead of a 6 million cap hit for Kimmo they are replacing him with a 5 million cap hit. So were are saving a million. I really think this signing is done with the knowledge kimmo is not back.
- J35Bacher


They needed to add two defenseman this offseason. Theyve added one in Mac. If Kimmo doesn't re-sign, they will need to make some move.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
They needed to add two defenseman this offseason. Theyve added one in Mac. If Kimmo doesn't re-sign, they will need to make some move.
- PhillySportsGuy


Or they could actually consider playing Gus
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
Cap hit is fine

Term is a year too long for my liking but whatever
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
Again, if Kimmo wants to come back, they'll most likely move one of Grossmann/L Schenn and replace him with Lauridsen/Alt, and keep the forward unit pretty much the same. Plus, I don't know if Kimmo can command another $6M deal.
- jmatchett383



I don't think so. He clearly has lost a step. i know he has played well but with them finally drafting d and possiblely some in the ahl that might be able to fill in, I think the AMac deal was done knowing they are moving on. If they move Grossman/L, Schenn they are moving one of there more phsycal dmen. Lauridsen filled in ok but I don't see him more then a 7th dman. Alt could fill in but I believe he is more a two way dman then an actuall physical defenseman. maybe Bill can provide some insight to what he thinks.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 11:00 AM ET
Or they could actually consider playing Gus
- jmatchett383


Coburn-Mac
Streit-Grossmann
Gus-Schenn

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 15 @ 11:01 AM ET
jsaquella ‏@jsaquella 2m
Readily available asset. MacDonald is a solid 4/5 defenseman. A6 year $30mm commitment to that kind if guy is too much

- Pixote Andolini


I don't know why he keeps repeating the false claim that MacDonald is only a 4/5. He wasn't that in New York and he hasn't been that here.
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