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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
Zbynek Michalek v2.0.

Gonna be fun to watch Chris Butler sign for $3M/per on the open market.

- Tomahawk


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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 10:39 AM ET
Yeah. I know it's market value for a 3/4 guy, but the term's a bit long. Hopefully, he becomes another Coburn so we can all whine about him, and then ponder a future without him.
- jmatchett383


I'm surprised they had the tagging space. Does that matter now that the season is over?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:40 AM ET
I'm surprised they had the tagging space. Does that matter now that the season is over?
- PhillySportsGuy


Defers to MJL
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 10:40 AM ET
Bill says VL is not at practice
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:40 AM ET
Bill says VL is not at practice
- PhillySportsGuy


Healthy scratch for Vandevelde?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 10:41 AM ET
I'm surprised they had the tagging space. Does that matter now that the season is over?
- PhillySportsGuy



They had around 11M of tagging space before the deal. And yes it still matters with the Season being over.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 10:42 AM ET
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- MJL



I'm flattered.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 15 @ 10:42 AM ET
Zbynek Michalek v2.0.

Gonna be fun to watch Chris Butler sign for $3M/per on the open market.

- Tomahawk

I dont get Homers affinity for contracts that last longer than 3-4 years...

We now have 8 million dollars in potential cap space for next off season tied up in two re-signings... Mason goes from 1.5 to 4.1 and MacDaddy from .5 to 5.0 mil.

Not complaining.. I understand they needed to do something about the players.. but I wonder what they are gonna do about other needs...
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
I dont get Homers affinity for contracts that last longer than 3-4 years...

We now have 8 million dollars in potential cap space for next off season tied up in two re-signings... Mason goes from 1.5 to 4.1 and MacDaddy from .5 to 5.0 mil.

Not complaining.. I understand they needed to do something about the players.. but I wonder what they are gonna do about other needs...

- jak521


Well, I'm thinking one of Grossmann/L Schenn is gone this offseason and they'll probably give Alt/Lauridsen a shot at camp. Laughton is on his ELC, so the helps with the forward roles.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
I dont get Homers affinity for contracts that last longer than 3-4 years...

We now have 8 million dollars in potential cap space for next off season tied up in two re-signings... Mason goes from 1.5 to 4.1 and MacDaddy from .5 to 5.0 mil.

Not complaining.. I understand they needed to do something about the players.. but I wonder what they are gonna do about other needs...

- jak521



Longer contracts see a better value as the years go by when compared to the salary inflation of what it would cost to sign a comparable player.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
This signing is telling me that Kimmo is not coming back next year. His money just went to Macdonald.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 15 @ 10:45 AM ET
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- MJL

He played pretty well with the Flyers, in a very.. ehrm.. safe way.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:45 AM ET
Longer contracts see a better value as the years go by when compared to the salary inflation of what it would cost to sign a comparable player.
- MJL


As long as the cap continues to increase, it is. But still, that's a long time for a guy who, really, hasn't produced at that level. I know he's a two-way defender, but I expected a bit more offense out of him at this point.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
Longer contracts see a better value as the years go by when compared to the salary inflation of what it would cost to sign a comparable player.
- MJL

Only if a player is able to live up to said contract.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
I dont get Homers affinity for contracts that last longer than 3-4 years...
- jak521



Apparently, the pre-emptive market value of AMac on a 3-4 year deal could have been $5.5-6M
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
MacDonald is a fool. If he would have gotten to free agency, he would have been buried knee deep in 8 year 52 million dollar deals.

This Holmgren drives a hard bargain!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Apr 15 @ 10:46 AM ET
Well that's a lot more than the 4/18 I was hoping for.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
Apparently, the pre-emptive market value of AMac on a 3-4 year deal could have been $5.5-6M
- Tomahawk


http://www.broadstreethoc...enseman-neutral-zone-play

On why eye test doesn't match Mac's numbers. If he can tighten up his neutral zone play, he can become a very good player.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 15 @ 10:48 AM ET
Apparently, the pre-emptive market value of AMac on a 3-4 year deal could have been $5.5-6M
- Tomahawk


It was probably around $5M for multiple years, honestly. That's what guys like him will make, fair and just or not.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 10:49 AM ET
Bill Meltzer ‏@billmeltzer 6m
Akeson taking 3rd line rushes. No Downie.

Good thing we waited until the end of the season to play Akeson. No need to get him some NHL experience before the playoffs
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 15 @ 10:49 AM ET
http://www.broadstreethoc...enseman-neutral-zone-play

On why eye test doesn't match Mac's numbers. If he can tighten up his neutral zone play, he can become a very good player.

- PhillySportsGuy



Yeah, timing of that one was ironic. Can't wait to see that comment section blow up.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 15 @ 10:51 AM ET
This signing is telling me that Kimmo is not coming back next year. His money just went to Macdonald.
- J35Bacher

Very sad thought..

MacDonald had 4 points and was a -3 with the Flyers over 19 games. In Timonens last 20 games he had 16 points and was a +5.

You cant replace Timonen with MacDonald.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 2m
Andrew MacDonald extension RT @davegisaac: MacDonald’s deal is six years $30 million.


- PhillySportsGuy

Just think of it this way. Mac's cap hit is more than Pronger's...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
Just think of it this way. Mac's cap hit is more than Pronger's...

- FlyersGrace


That doesn't really make me feel any better
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 15 @ 10:52 AM ET
OMG 5 YRS 30 MIL HOLMER WTF ARE YOU DOING
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