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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 14 @ 5:24 PM ET
Guess who's the NHL's leading scorer over the past four seasons?

http://www.hockey-referen...gt&c4val=&order_by=points

(hint: his middle name is Dari)

- Tomahawk


Jason Dari Akeson?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Apr 14 @ 5:24 PM ET
$5,000 fine for Hartnell. No suspension.
- MJL


Stephane Quintal is a wimp.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:24 PM ET
Guess who's the NHL's leading scorer over the past four seasons?

http://www.hockey-referen...gt&c4val=&order_by=points

(hint: his middle name is Dari)

- Tomahawk

Magic Dari Johnson
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:26 PM ET
Jason Dari Akeson?
- jmatchett383



Lol, sort that list by PIMs...
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 14 @ 5:28 PM ET
is this verified? i like that better than what was being bandied about earlier
- -davies-


Yes, verified. Was never a question about it, actually. The loophole Schultz used to become a June UFA was closed in the new CBA.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:29 PM ET
Lol, sort that list by PIMs...
- Tomahawk


How do I sort on CORSI?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 14 @ 5:30 PM ET
How do I sort on CORSI?
- funmaster18


Sort it from worst to best. And just put Grossmann on the top and be done with it. Followed by MacDonald.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 14 @ 5:30 PM ET
How do I sort on CORSI?
- funmaster18


You just type in "GROSSMANN IZ TEH SUCKZ!"
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:31 PM ET
Close one guys, MJL wins this time
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:32 PM ET
Yes, verified. Was never a question about it, actually. The loophole Schultz used to become a June UFA was closed in the new CBA.
- bmeltzer


Not sure if it's closed... just nerfed. A Justin Schultz can still become a UFA after his junior year, he just can't sign on July 1.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:33 PM ET
How do I sort on CORSI?
- funmaster18

however it is, Grossmann should be at the bott--

oh, nevermind...
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:33 PM ET
however it is, Grossmann should be at the bott--

oh, nevermind...

- BulliesPhan87


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 14 @ 5:34 PM ET
Not sure if it's closed... just nerfed. A Justin Schultz can still become a UFA after his junior year, he just can't sign on July 1.
- Tomahawk


Exactly. He has to wait until August 15th, meaning that most teams are done with their FA's and some will be at the 50 contract limit.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:35 PM ET
I think we see a really fired up flyers team against the rags. I don't expect a listless effort like the 2012 devils series.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:36 PM ET
Exactly. He has to wait until August 15th, meaning that most teams are done with their FA's and some will be at the 50 contract limit.
- jmatchett383


(frank)ing holmgren will probably be at 55-60 contracts by then and over the cap by 20 million
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 14 @ 5:37 PM ET
(frank)ing holmgren will probably be at 55-60 contracts by then and over the cap by 20 million
- funmaster18


I'd expect one of them to be Gostisbehere.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:37 PM ET
The orange line is reporting that mason has a concussion, but it hasn't been stated by the flyers or their poopty beats yet. Who knows if this is truth, but if it is, well...wer're (frank)ing (frank)ed.
- hammarby31


He's faking so he can't be blamed for the rags' first round sweep
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:38 PM ET
He's faking so he can't be blamed for the rags' first round sweep
- funmaster18

(frank)ing pigeon
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:38 PM ET
I'd expect one of them to be Gostisbehere.
- jmatchett383


They should sign him to a couple of contracts, just to make sure
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 14 @ 5:38 PM ET
He's faking so he can't be blamed for the rags' first round sweep
- funmaster18


No, he's faking it so he won't be traded at the TDL.

Oh, sorry, thought it was JVR.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 14 @ 5:39 PM ET
One of the great things about college is that it gives you options.
- johndewar

And then you default on your loans.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:39 PM ET
No, he's faking it so he won't be traded at the TDL.

Oh, sorry, thought it was JVR.

- jmatchett383


No, it's briere
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 14 @ 5:40 PM ET
No, it's briere
- funmaster18


Oh, well then OBVIOUSLY he's faking it,

So is Pronger, that baby.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 14 @ 5:42 PM ET
Oh, well then OBVIOUSLY he's faking it,

So is Pronger, that baby.

- jmatchett383


Shelley, Rosehill and Lilja walk into a bar.. I forget the rest but the end is holmgren signs them all to multi year contracts
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 14 @ 5:44 PM ET
The chance that Gostisbehere plays his Sr. year are slim. People need to relax.

1) There is no financial incentive to wait, because the ELC limits level the field even if he is a UFA.

2) The Schultz loophole was closed in the new CBA, meaning Ghost would have to wait til Aug 15, 2015 to become a free agent rather than in June. That is a major disincentive because most NHL teams will have their rosters all but set for the next season.

3) His ELC would start in 2014-15 with Flyers org; something that he can't get by waiting. He'd get in a year of service time on his ELC and get paid sooner on a similar-valued deal.

4) He has developed all he's going to develop in collegiate hockey. No benefit in playing senior year but there is a risk: the risk of a serious injury before he ever sees a penny of an NHL contract.

5) Many players finish their college degree work in the off-season. He'd have to pay for the courses but he could certainly afford it with an NHL signing bonus and ELC in his hand.

Gostisbehere is simply following Bennett's advice to enjoy the national championship and then sit down with his family advisor (officially hiring an agent would make him forfeit senior year of eligibility and leave him with no leverage with Flyers).

Really, that is all there is to see here.


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