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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
For whoever was asking about AMac's zone-entry defense numbers, here's the full report:

http://www.sbnation.com/n...tats-zone-entries-defense
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 10 @ 12:03 PM ET
I just remember the last game at MSG. Not only did we lose but I was bored to death. I don't even think they're that good.
- mayorofangrytown


The last game at MSG followed the same pattern as the others at MSG. I have very little confidence the Flyers can beat the Rangers. They just don't matchup well with them. Of all the playoffs teams in the East, the Rangers are the 2nd to last team I'd want to face.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:06 PM ET
I just remember the last game at MSG. Not only did we lose but I was bored to death. I don't even think they're that good.
- mayorofangrytown

I was more frustrated then bored but of course I get what you are saying.

Just have to stay positive, forget past history and see what happens.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 10 @ 12:07 PM ET
For whoever was asking about AMac's zone-entry defense numbers, here's the full report:

http://www.sbnation.com/n...tats-zone-entries-defense

- Tomahawk


His advanced stats look terrible, but he looks good when I watch him.

His numbers with Luke Schenn look good though.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
Beating the Rangers for me would show they have the right coach.

I had no faith with Lavi at the helm against NYRs, and even against the Devils.

It is a real challenge for the coach and the team.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 10 @ 12:09 PM ET
His advanced stats look terrible, but he looks good when I watch him.

His numbers with Luke Schenn look good though.

- PhillySportsGuy



His numbers could be skewed due to sample size, but it looks like teams prefer to challenge his side of the ice more and they're pretty successful at gaining the line w/ possession against him.

No surprise that Coburn is heads and shoulders above the rest. Nobody seems to want to challenge Gill and his 25-foot stick either in the few games he played.

Edit: I think where AMac shines is initiating transition with a quick, short first-pass. Defensively and possession... jury's still out on his worth.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 10 @ 12:09 PM ET
The last game at MSG followed the same pattern as the others at MSG. I have very little confidence the Flyers can beat the Rangers. They just don't matchup well with them. Of all the playoffs teams in the East, the Rangers are the 2nd to last team I'd want to face.
- PhillySportsGuy



I say bring the Rangers on. There is no doubt in my mind that they can beat them.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 10 @ 12:09 PM ET
Beating the Rangers for me would show they have the right coach.

I had no faith with Lavi at the helm against NYRs, and even against the Devils.

It is a real challenge for the coach and the team.

- Marc D


I thought they really rolled over in the last game.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:11 PM ET
Mcginn has 4 goals in 12 games this year. He's on pace for 27 goals!
- FlyersSteve118


McGinn 4 goals in 12 games
Downie 3 goals in 50 games
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:13 PM ET
Beating the Rangers for me would show they have the right coach.

I had no faith with Lavi at the helm against NYRs, and even against the Devils.

It is a real challenge for the coach and the team.

- Marc D


The thing is the Flyers have beaten the Rangers the two games in Philly this year and outplayed them by a good margin in at least 4 of the 6 periods.

I have no clue why they can't compete at MSG. The Rangers aren't a particularly good team at home. 19-17-4. Pretty awful.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 10 @ 12:16 PM ET
So I just heard that an NHL GM gets about 10,000 in pension for every year he's a GM. That's a pretty good pension.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 10 @ 12:16 PM ET
His numbers could be skewed due to sample size, but it looks like teams prefer to challenge his side of the ice more and they're pretty successful at gaining the line w/ possession against him.

No surprise that Coburn is heads and shoulders above the rest. Nobody seems to want to challenge Gill and his 25-foot stick either in the few games he played.

Edit: I think where AMac shines is initiating transition with a quick, short first-pass. Defensively and possession... jury's still out on his worth.

- Tomahawk


Would you rather have Mac at $4.5M, Niskanen at $6M, Boyle at $6M for 2 years or Markov at $6M for 3 years?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
Would you rather have Mac at $4.5M, Niskanen at $6M, Boyle at $6M for 2 years or Markov at $6M for 3 years?
- PhillySportsGuy



If you put a gun to my head, I'd pick Markov.

Otherwise, I think those are all potential albatross contracts (assuming Niskanen gets 7-years).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
LWL confirms Emery will start tonight.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:19 PM ET
McGinn 4 goals in 12 games
Downie 3 goals in 50 games

- PLindbergh31

Jason Akeson 1 goal in 1 game in 12-13. 82 goal pace. Perennial Hart/Rocket/Vezina trophy winner.
Flyers_V88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Apr 10 @ 12:19 PM ET
The thing is the Flyers have beaten the Rangers the two games in Philly this year and outplayed them by a good margin in at least 4 of the 6 periods.

I have no clue why they can't compete at MSG. The Rangers aren't a particularly good team at home. 19-17-4. Pretty awful.

- PLindbergh31

No joke, it's the ice. Their PP is flat on the ice out there, and I think in turn, it doesn't allow them to exploit the Rangers via the PP, like they do to most teams. Their PP is their bread-and-butter for the most part. It creates momentum for them, it gives them confidence, and it keep the play in the offensive zone.

I notice in games where the Flyers PP is bad, or the team they're playing defends it really well, the whole game they look flat and have trouble generating good quality scoring chances. So, to tie this all back up, I think the ice factors HEAVILY into the Flyers' play at MSG. This is just a personal theory of mine, based on what we've seem from them over the past three years playing there.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:20 PM ET
Jason Akeson 1 goal in 1 game in 12-13. 82 goal pace. Perennial Hart/Rocket/Vezina trophy winner.
- jak521


Nah. He's the size of a Keebler elf, and his +/- blows.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:21 PM ET
No joke, it's the ice. Their PP is flat on the ice out there, and I think in turn, it doesn't allow them to exploit the Rangers via the PP, like they do to most teams. Their PP is their bread-and-butter for the most part. It creates momentum for them, it gives them confidence, and it keep the play in the offensive zone.

I notice in games where the Flyers PP is bad, or the team they're playing defends it really well, the whole game they look flat and have trouble generating good quality scoring chances. So, to tie this all back up, I think the ice factors HEAVILY into the Flyers' play at MSG. This is just a personal theory of mine, based on what we've seem from them over the past three years playing there.

- Flyers_V88


I agree that the Flyers rely heavily on their PP, but other teams are heavy PP teams as well, and they don't seem to have any issues winning at MSG. The Flyers have to break through and win a game there to get the place out of their heads.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
If you put a gun to my head, I'd pick Markov.

Otherwise, I think those are all potential albatross contracts (assuming Niskanen gets 7-years).

- Tomahawk


So what would you do this offseason? Make a trade?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:24 PM ET
If you put a gun to my head, I'd pick Markov.

Otherwise, I think those are all potential albatross contracts (assuming Niskanen gets 7-years).

- Tomahawk


I really hope there is some sort of plan in place to get a legit first pairing stud on board. Paying fringe guys between 4-5.5 range isn't working.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 10 @ 12:25 PM ET
I hope we win the cup before our country gets taken over.

I'm putting all my hopes and dreams into this team. So when they get swept in the first round, expect angry posts!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:25 PM ET
I thought they really rolled over in the last game.
- PhillySportsGuy

yup

rangers took it to them, awful
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 10 @ 12:26 PM ET
I really hope there is some sort of plan in place to get a legit first pairing stud on board. Paying fringe guys between 4-5.5 range isn't working.
- PLindbergh31


So, you don't want Matt Walker back?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 10 @ 12:26 PM ET
I really hope there is some sort of plan in place to get a legit first pairing stud on board. Paying fringe guys between 4-5.5 range isn't working.
- PLindbergh31

a legit guy playing now?

it would cost Couts and one or two first round picks
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
LWL confirms Emery will start tonight.
- PLindbergh31


Fantastic. All we need is a goalie controversy to start the playoffs.
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