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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 10 @ 10:58 AM ET
Yeah, it's case by case, I just prefer if they erred on the conservative side.

Claude Giroux was more than ready to come up when he did. Other guys they deemed 'ready' like Sbisa, JvR, probably Pitkanen... all might have been better off with more tutelage and less instant pressure to produce/contribute. If Morin/Ghost/Hagg are in the lineup come October, I'm going to be concerned for them.

- Tomahawk


Sbisa and JVR are the classic cases. Sbisa needed it from a development standpoint and JVR needed it from a maturity standpoint.

I thought Pitkanen was alright until they asked too much of him in the NHL.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 10 @ 11:00 AM ET
Excellent points. The circumstances a lot of times are the reason why players are left in the minors longer sometimes. And sometimes it has nothing to do with the player, but due to other issues. Nyquist was recalled in November I believe. And he's produced ever since. Is anyone going to state that with the production level he put up this Season, he wasn't ready for the NHL in October? If anything, in this situation Detroit screwed up. Should've never sent him down in the first place.
- MJL


Those are the only points I make.

Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 10 @ 11:03 AM ET
I thought Pitkanen was alright until they asked too much of him in the NHL.
- PhillySportsGuy



Pitkanen, Richards, Carter... all had obvious maturity issues. The AHL allows for a lot more coaching, practice and one-on-one tutelage -- games usually only being on weekends and all.

Coaches just can't afford to devote that kind of hands-on guidance to single players at the next level -- guys are mostly just trusted to know how to handle themselves and prepare.

Edit: it's kind of like how colleges want 1st and 2nd year students staying on-campus, getting nannied by RA's and advisors while they taste autonomy for the first time. A few kids might not need it, but most probably do.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 10 @ 11:08 AM ET
Pitkanen, Richards, Carter... all had obvious maturity issues. The AHL allows for a lot more coaching, practice and one-on-one tutelage -- games usually only being on weekends and all.

Coaches just can't afford to devote that kind of hands-on guidance to single players at the next level -- guys are mostly just trusted to know how to handle themselves and prepare.

Edit: it's kind of like how colleges want 1st and 2nd year students staying on-campus, getting nannied by RA's and advisors while they taste autonomy for the first time. A few kids might not need it, but most probably do.

- Tomahawk


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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 10 @ 11:13 AM ET

- BulliesPhan87


Id give real money if he would just shut up....
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
Id give real money if he would just shut up....

- MBFlyerfan

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 10 @ 11:38 AM ET
Pitkanen, Richards, Carter... all had obvious maturity issues. The AHL allows for a lot more coaching, practice and one-on-one tutelage -- games usually only being on weekends and all.

Coaches just can't afford to devote that kind of hands-on guidance to single players at the next level -- guys are mostly just trusted to know how to handle themselves and prepare.

Edit: it's kind of like how colleges want 1st and 2nd year students staying on-campus, getting nannied by RA's and advisors while they taste autonomy for the first time. A few kids might not need it, but most probably do.

- Tomahawk



I disagree that Richards and Carter had obvious maturity issues.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 10 @ 11:38 AM ET


Yeah. I just think the rule makes it difficult. The AHL would have been the ideal spot for Drouin to start the season. Unfortunately, that wasn't possible. In order to give Drouin any AHL time, they would need to send him to Juniors again then send him to the AHL in 2015-16. Thats just not the best course for his development.

Getting Hagg to the AHL is great. I'm hoping Ghost and Vasiliev follow.

- PhillySportsGuy

how has he looked so far?
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