As would Raffl's, or anybody's. That was my only point. If you play more minutes and play with better players, your offensive production will most likely increase.
- jmatchett383

see: brown, rob.

now post the definition of irony
- BulliesPhan87

i·ro·ny1
ˈīrənē,ˈiərnē/
noun
noun: irony
1. the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
synonyms: sarcasm, causticity, cynicism, mockery, satire, sardonicism

I felt sharing a personal thought would further illuminate the definition
- Jsaquella

You make my point -- my knowledge of Hockey has been proven time and time again!

As would Raffl's, or anybody's. That was my only point. If you play more minutes and play with better players, your offensive production will most likely increase.
- jmatchett383

It might, but with players that don't have the offensive ability, the increase might be negligible. And also have to look at it comparison ot the other player. So what do they want in that Center spot? Do they want a player who is better defensively, and in pressuring the puck. Or do they want to increase the offensive production of that line?

JSAQ brought up Berube being a player/coach yesterday.

Might be the best option! Hmmmmm... The cap ramifications......
- PLindbergh31

At least he could play a solid 4th line role without taking ridiculously dumb penalties

Maybe they finally caught and corrected his astigmatism?
- Tomahawk

Berube COTY

You make my point -- my knowledge of Hockey has been proven time and time again!
- Tomahawk

I'm always right. You just have to accept that you're wrong.

You might thinkt hat 1+1=2, because everyone else thinks so. But really, you need to look at the two one's and see that they fit better when they equal 3.

i·ro·ny1
ˈīrənē,ˈiərnē/
noun
noun: irony
1. the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.
synonyms: sarcasm, causticity, cynicism, mockery, satire, sardonicism
- jmatchett383

thank you, j "but goals" matchett

This is another situation where both the injury and playing out of position have to be taken into account. What has happened to his shot totals since being moved back to Center?
- MJL

He got 9-shots once recently, but other than that, it's been 1's and 2's.

And playing center full-time in Tampa last season yielded the same results.

see: brown, rob.
- hammarby31

Or Warren Young

thank you, j "but goals" matchett
- BulliesPhan87

That would be sarcasm, which is not a direct synonym of irony (although it was stated as much). I freely admit that I'm sarcastic as all get-out.

At least he could play a solid 4th line role without taking ridiculously dumb penalties
- Jsaquella

I keep forgetting Berube was on that 2000 team.
He's done a nice job as coach, but when I think about him preaching discipline with his 3000+ PIMS, I chuckle.

It might, but with players that don't have the offensive ability, the increase might be negligible. And also have to look at it comparison ot the other player. So what do they want in that Center spot? Do they want a player who is better defensively, and in pressuring the puck. Or do they want to increase the offensive production of that line?
- MJL

I think you're making too much of the center position. I just like the combo of Raffl with Simmonds and Schenn more than Vinny with Simmonds and Schenn.

I'm not sure if they plan on keeping Raffl at center. I'm sure they will for another game though.

I'm always right. You just have to accept that you're wrong.

You might thinkt hat 1+1=2, because everyone else thinks so. But really, you need to look at the two one's and see that they fit better when they equal 3.
- jmatchett383

The great Pete Townshend ladies & gentlemen

This I agree with.

Watch two linemen get into a shoving+shouting match after the play in the NFL, and we let out a collective groan. Watch two NBA players come to blows after a hard foul, and we lament the days of short shorts and peach baskets.

Watch the same poop happen hockey? If you don't take part in it, you're soft, a rube, a mark. While the guy with his stinky glove in your face, or slashing you on in the back of the leg is a warrior, a good Western Canadian boy.
- Tomahawk

Both teams should have to clear the crease immediately when they whistle is blown and the refs should be able to call penalties if they seem to be starting up some bull poop. It's pathetic what goes on during a hockey game. Respect the sport and the player respect will come.

That would be sarcasm, which is not a direct synonym of irony (although it was stated as much). I freely admit that I'm sarcastic as all get-out.
- jmatchett383

the irony is you (or a number of posters here) calling people smug, hth

I'm always right. You just have to accept that you're wrong.

You might thinkt hat 1+1=2, because everyone else thinks so. But really, you need to look at the two one's and see that they fit better when they equal 3.
- jmatchett383

This is my favorite one today

I keep forgetting Berube was on that 2000 team.
He's done a nice job as coach, but when I think about him preaching discipline with his 3000+ PIMS, I chuckle.
- PLindbergh31

Most of his PIM came from fighting, at least that doesn't put you down a man.

thank you, j "but goals" matchett
- BulliesPhan87

Whoa

Whoa
- PhillySportsGuy

shots fired

Most of his PIM came from fighting, at least that doesn't put you down a man.
- Jsaquella

That's a good point. I'm guessing Berube may be top 5 in League history in fighting majors.

He got 9-shots once recently, but other than that, it's been 1's and 2's.

And playing center full-time in Tampa last season yielded the same results.
- Tomahawk

And he scored at a near 60 point pace last year in Tampa. What is his shot total per game, playing on the 4th line since he has been moved back there? Also keep in mind that his shot totals are also likely to increase if he played on a line with better offensive talent. The bottom line is the ability is clearly still there with Lecavalier.

the irony is you (or a number of posters here) calling people smug, hth
- BulliesPhan87

Are you saying I come off as smug? Also, who did I call smug?

I think you're making too much of the center position. I just like the combo of Raffl with Simmonds and Schenn more than Vinny with Simmonds and Schenn.

I'm not sure if they plan on keeping Raffl at center. I'm sure they will for another game though.
- PhillySportsGuy

They've played how many games together? I'm willing to keep an open mind about it and see how it plays out. But I think it's asking a lot of Raffl at this point.

At least he could play a solid 4th line role without taking ridiculously dumb penalties
- Jsaquella

Rinaldo will be on a short leash if and when he returns....I see 3-4 games.....Can you trust him in playoffs? I like what he brings, BUT you can't hurt your team with dumb penalties.
Berube likes the kid....so he will get another chance....but there may come a time when the bad outweighs the good.
Berube also has to sense on some nights that the kid is just too wreckless....I mean he had 3 penalties last night before the goofy hit....I thought after the 2nd or 3rd one he should of sat and watched.