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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 2:14 PM ET
Trade your #1 defenseman while in the playoff hunt? I'd like to see the GM with the balls to do that.
- PhillySportsGuy


I meant this past off season.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 7 @ 2:14 PM ET
The way they were winning was unsustainable.
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't disagree with that, but they could have found other ways to win and build on what they had done. Either way, I just don't think describing it as regression and a collapse are mutually exclusive.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 2:14 PM ET
They need a puck mover and mobility though. Where will they get it if Mac leaves?
- PhillySportsGuy


This Shea guy. Something like Webster or Weaver or something. I hear he's okay.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 2:15 PM ET
blech
- -davies-


He has the snow removed, the day before it starts snowing. That's how good he is.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 7 @ 2:17 PM ET
I don't disagree with that, but they could have found other ways to win and build on what they had done. Either way, I just don't think describing it as regression and a collapse are mutually exclusive.
- BulliesPhan87


When you play a certain way for 65 games, it's incredibly difficult to make a sudden change. When I watch them, I still see a team with huge gaps between defenseman and forwards.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 7 @ 2:17 PM ET
They need a puck mover and mobility though. Where will they get it if Mac leaves?
- PhillySportsGuy


Throw that money at Niskanen or Boyle... they're actually guys who can drive play.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 2:18 PM ET
I usually hate Ek's posts, and they'd never do it from a PR standpoint, but I really think the Caps should consider moving AO. I understand that he's an offensive beast, but I don't see them ever winning with him. It seems like they're a 1-trick pony and if you can shut him down in the playoffs, they don't have enough to win with the rest of their offense. Again, they'd never let it happen because he's the face of the franchise, but I think they may be a better team for it with the possible return.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 7 @ 2:19 PM ET
Throw that money at Niskanen or Boyle... they're actually guys who can drive play.
- Tomahawk


I'm ok with Niskanen. I'm not sure I want to pursue Boyle when we already have Streit. Thats a lot of old
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 2:19 PM ET
Throw that money at Niskanen or Boyle... they're actually guys who can drive play.
- Tomahawk


If you are going to overpay players, do it for true difference makers, not fringe guys. I'd rather pay in the 7-8 million range for a top pairing stud, then 5 for a borderline 3-4 guy. Problem is top dmen don't reach FA often.

Suter would have been perfect.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 7 @ 2:19 PM ET
I usually hate Ek's posts, and they'd never do it from a PR standpoint, but I really think the Caps should consider moving AO. I understand that he's an offensive beast, but I don't see them ever winning with him. It seems like they're a 1-trick pony and if you can shut him down in the playoffs, they don't have enough to win with the rest of their offense. Again, they'd never let it happen because he's the face of the franchise, but I think they may be a better team for it with the possible return.
- jmatchett383


I agree with this.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 2:20 PM ET
Throw that money at Niskanen or Boyle... they're actually guys who can drive play.
- Tomahawk


Boyle will want a Streit-esque contract and is 35+. Niskanen, I think, is having a career year. I'd rather explore all other options before throwing $$ at the big fish.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
If you are going to overpay players, do it for true difference makers, not fringe guys. I'd rather pay in the 7-8 million range for a top pairing stud, then 5 for a borderline 3-4 guy. Problem is top dmen don't reach FA often.

Suter would have been perfect.

- PLindbergh31


Suter or Weber would have. Problem was, Nashville wasn't letting Weber go, and Suter was going to Minnesota the second he reached UFA. You just can't get them (until the new "rare commodity" surfaces in 3-4 years).
Sms401
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kenmore , NY
Joined: 07.28.2011

Apr 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
Beat an ECHL team.
Rinaldo deserves whatever he gets.
Lecavalier will score 40 goals next year.

- jmatchett383

I didn't think zacs was bad at the game live but after reviewing it after game yeah he should have let up. Although I still think he wasn't trying to hit him hard at all. Club box seats I will be sitting in for now on. Greet seats
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 7 @ 2:22 PM ET
I usually hate Ek's posts, and they'd never do it from a PR standpoint, but I really think the Caps should consider moving AO. I understand that he's an offensive beast, but I don't see them ever winning with him. It seems like they're a 1-trick pony and if you can shut him down in the playoffs, they don't have enough to win with the rest of their offense. Again, they'd never let it happen because he's the face of the franchise, but I think they may be a better team for it with the possible return.
- jmatchett383


We all sure that George McPhee is a good general manager?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 7 @ 2:22 PM ET
If you are going to overpay players, do it for true difference makers, not fringe guys. I'd rather pay in the 7-8 million range for a top pairing stud, then 5 for a borderline 3-4 guy. Problem is top dmen don't reach FA often.

Suter would have been perfect.

- PLindbergh31


DING DING DING DING DING
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
We all sure that George McPhee is a good general manager?
- johndewar


Nope. Not sure of that at all, actually

I think he's Darcy Regier 2.0. In love with his picks and prospects until it's too late
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
I didn't think zacs was bad at the game live but after reviewing it after game yeah he should have let up. Although I still think he wasn't trying to hit him hard at all. Club box seats I will be sitting in for now on. Greet seats
- Sms401


Well, first of all, the timing of the hit was horrible. Given the circumstances of the game, no need for it. Secondly. he left his feet and went high. He'll probably get 3-5, and he has no one to blame but himself.

Come to think of it, didn't he miss a stretch of games after his other goal, some sort of leg injury?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
Suter or Weber would have. Problem was, Nashville wasn't letting Weber go, and Suter was going to Minnesota the second he reached UFA. You just can't get them (until the new "rare commodity" surfaces in 3-4 years).
- jmatchett383


I know. The best way to get a top pairing stud in this era, is to draft and develop one. Flyers have 47 years of history working against them in that regard.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
I'd hope they do. Holmgren keeps wanting to sit Grossmann, arguing his CORSI ratings and wants Gus to play, but Berube likes Grossmann's physical game and shot blocking ability. Mean while, Snider is pressuring Holmgren to sign Rosehill to a 4-year, $6M extension so that we never get pushed around.
- jmatchett383


i would love to see a series about the inner workings of the flyers organization, done like House of Cards. It would be (frank)ing awesome if done right.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
We all sure that George McPhee is a good general manager?
- johndewar


You're asking me if I think the guy who traded Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat is a good GM?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
I proposed the idea of B. Schenn for Josi. People seemed to be split on it.
- PhillySportsGuy


I'd make that deal
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 7 @ 2:25 PM ET
god i miss him
- -davies-




he's still doing great things in the world.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 7 @ 2:25 PM ET
You're asking me if I think the guy who traded Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat is a good GM?
- jmatchett383


He only likes Russians
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 2:26 PM ET
i would love to see a series about the inner workings of the flyers organization, done like House of Cards. It would be (frank)ing awesome if done right.
- hammarby31


I'd prefer Snider to be played by Christopher Walken.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 7 @ 2:26 PM ET
I usually hate Ek's posts, and they'd never do it from a PR standpoint, but I really think the Caps should consider moving AO. I understand that he's an offensive beast, but I don't see them ever winning with him. It seems like they're a 1-trick pony and if you can shut him down in the playoffs, they don't have enough to win with the rest of their offense. Again, they'd never let it happen because he's the face of the franchise, but I think they may be a better team for it with the possible return.
- jmatchett383



Their chances of winning seemed pretty good when they were the high-flying Caps of yesteryear... GMGM seemed to cave in to conventional wisdom and the identity is all mixed up now. Like Vancouver, their skill used to be extremely hard to match up against.... now they're just a second-rate team with a couple of first-rate players.
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