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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 7 @ 12:35 PM ET
Gus is 25... not exactly a spring chicken in prospect terms.
- Tomahawk


I think they'll keep him, but if they feel Ghost, Alt or Hagg are going to move past him very soon, they may move him during camp.

I still think he's a nice luxury to have as a 7th dman at a cheap price. The idea of going back to Lilja, Matt Walker or Gervais isn't appealing.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 7 @ 12:36 PM ET
If the Flyers aren't gonna use him, they may as well stunt his development so no one else can, either.
- tangent_man


mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Apr 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
I can't see them just letting him become a UFA. Its not like he's going to cost a ton. He's one of the better 7th dmen in the league. They won't be replacing him with a better, less expensive option.

I can see them trading him for a similar player. A guy who has fallen out of favor, but may be a better fit somewhere else.

- PhillySportsGuy


You are correct.

But who says Gus wants to come back? He could easily go play overseas if he doesn't think the Flyers, or another team for that matter, are going to give him a real shot.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
You are correct.

But who says Gus wants to come back? He could easily go play overseas if he doesn't think the Flyers, or another team for that matter, are going to give him a real shot.

- mochoson


I think a lot will depend on this offseason. If they come back with a solid top 6 with no room for competition, I can see him going overseas until he's 27.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
You are correct.

But who says Gus wants to come back? He could easily go play overseas if he doesn't think the Flyers, or another team for that matter, are going to give him a real shot.

- mochoson


He's 25 years old, so if he has any hopes of a professional hockey career in the NHL, he might be better served going to another organization or even playing overseas, simply to get more ice time and exposure.

I kinda thought Gus would get playing time just due to injuries, but the blueline has been uncannily healthy this year.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Apr 7 @ 12:39 PM ET
I think they'll keep him, but if they feel Ghost, Alt or Hagg are going to move past him very soon, they may move him during camp.

I still think he's a nice luxury to have as a 7th dman at a cheap price. The idea of going back to Lilja, Matt Walker or Gervais isn't appealing.

- PhillySportsGuy


It's crazy how much better Gus is than all 3 of those guys, and he's the smallest of the 3 and has nowhere near as much experience as any of them.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Apr 7 @ 12:42 PM ET
He's 25 years old, so if he has any hopes of a professional hockey career in the NHL, he might be better served going to another organization or even playing overseas, simply to get more ice time and exposure.

I kinda thought Gus would get playing time just due to injuries, but the blueline has been uncannily healthy this year.

- johndewar


Exactly. I'd love for him to stick around, personally. I think he's a more than capable 5-6 guy who could end up stepping into a top 4 role as a puck mover if he ever gets consistent ice time.

25 really isn't old, especially for dmen. They typically take (roughly) 300 games or so to really get comfortable at the NHL level, anyway.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 7 @ 12:43 PM ET
Ha! I don't know what the hell I did there -- it looks weird as hell, doesn't it? Did I type the letter instead of the number, by mistake?
- AllInForFlyers

I think so, looks like those emails I get about ch3ap ph4rmaceut1cals
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 12:44 PM ET
Sometimes I read the TSN comments and realize that, as bad as this board gets at times, it's still probably the best place to have somewhat rational hockey talk. Example:

ghostcod, YA, okay Iggy was upset that the refs got in between, ya Zac got a poke in Iggy was ready to continue. Lucic didn't have to catch him he was standing right in front of him Zac wanted no part of him Rinaldo is identical to Matt Cooke.hit and run. Like Lucic or not he hit and stand there. Who says 'oh please' hilarious you have to stop watching coronation street burnt brain. He didn't go after Ryan Miller crying Ryan came to him and he stood and fought Gaustad who is 2' taller next time they played and cleaned him by the way
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

Apr 7 @ 12:44 PM ET
The dumbest part was the timing of the hit. They were up 4-0 in the third. There is no need to try and lay someone out. He needs to better understand time and place.
- PhillySportsGuy



Exactly, if you guys were playing a good or even average team that 5 minute penalty could have cost you the game

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 12:45 PM ET
I think so, looks like those emails I get about ch3ap ph4rmaceut1cals
- BulliesPhan87


doOd Do YoU wAnT tO iNcReAsE yOuR sTaMiNa In BeD?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 7 @ 12:47 PM ET
Sometimes I read the TSN comments and realize that, as bad as this board gets at times, it's still probably the best place to have somewhat rational hockey talk. Example:

ghostcod, YA, okay Iggy was upset that the refs got in between, ya Zac got a poke in Iggy was ready to continue. Lucic didn't have to catch him he was standing right in front of him Zac wanted no part of him Rinaldo is identical to Matt Cooke.hit and run. Like Lucic or not he hit and stand there. Who says 'oh please' hilarious you have to stop watching coronation street burnt brain. He didn't go after Ryan Miller crying Ryan came to him and he stood and fought Gaustad who is 2' taller next time they played and cleaned him by the way

- jmatchett383


I think I'm 10% dumber for attempting to decipher what that person was saying.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Apr 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
Just wanted to say that I've been a supporter of Lecavalier as a player. I think the talk of his demise is short sighted. But I was wrong about one thing with Lecavalier. I thought he would be able to adjust to playing the Left side. I was wrong about that. It's clear that he can't play the LW spot effectively. He's a Center and he needs to be playing center. And I think he should be centering the 2nd line.
- MJL

Apology accepted.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 7 @ 12:49 PM ET
doOd Do YoU wAnT tO iNcReAsE yOuR sTaMiNa In BeD?
- jmatchett383

I checked my spam for the first time... well, ever recently. I was somehow surprised I still get these, and offers from Nigerian princes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 12:50 PM ET
I checked my spam for the first time... well, ever recently. I was somehow surprised I still get these, and offers from Nigerian princes.
- BulliesPhan87


Well I hope you help those Nigerian princes. I hear they pay you very well after your one-time $2000 payment.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:00 PM ET
If the Flyers aren't gonna use him, they may as well stunt his development so no one else can, either.
- tangent_man

You don't sit a 25 yr old in the stands for 50+ games in a season. Just pointing at his stats you can make an argument he's deserved a better lot this year. I'm sure he feels the same way. I can't imagine a situation where he returns for more of the same.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:05 PM ET
For those of you loving the Flyers Prospect suspension watch; the watch is on again. Laughton got thrown out of last night's playoff game against the Petes for butt ending.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Apr 7 @ 1:17 PM ET
For those of you loving the Flyers Prospect suspension watch; the watch is on again. Laughton got thrown out of last night's playoff game against the Petes for butt ending.
- mayorofangrytown



way to kill the thread bud
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
For those of you loving the Flyers Prospect suspension watch; the watch is on again. Laughton got thrown out of last night's playoff game against the Petes for butt ending.
- mayorofangrytown


He can't let Morin outdo him.

I'm very unimpressed with Leier, I don't think he's gotten suspended at all during his WHL career.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
nadda
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 7 @ 1:18 PM ET
Gaia Weiss

wouldja?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:19 PM ET
way to kill the thread bud
- -davies-

I didn't know. I didn't. Really...
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 7 @ 1:21 PM ET
He can't let Morin outdo him.

I'm very unimpressed with Leier, I don't think he's gotten suspended at all during his WHL career.

- jmatchett383

Goulbourne has been kinda quiet this year considering his reputation.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Apr 7 @ 1:23 PM ET
With the way things are going for Evander Kane in Winnipeg, would anyone make a play for him at the draft.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 7 @ 1:23 PM ET
Well, if Vinny was on a hot streak, why do you keep prorating his numbers for a short stretch.
- PhillySportsGuy



Very simple. To refute the comments made that the line and combination of players hasn't played well together this year, at any time. They have. And Lecavalier has played well at 2nd line center for a significant stretch of games.
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