Wow, someone has a hard time understanding humor. Yeah, I really think AV has hockey buzz forums set to his homepage on his mobile lmao...
- xcheckmajor

You obviously missed the sarcasm in my post

Thats the problem with this years FA market for centers

Its pretty thin and Stastny is at the top of the list. Whoever lands him will need to pay him #1 money, and then in the aftermath, I think they will be disappointed with the value they get from him
- FourFeathers773

Thats true, but I look at team cap as an individual thing. Market value will be very high for Stastny, but on the Rangers, although MSL isn't producing right now, its hard to think he won't next year. MSL regularly produces like a $7.5M dollar player who we have signed at a huge discount (in production terms). So I would take the plunge on Stastny if we are addressing a serious need.

You obviously missed the sarcasm in my post
- MeltingPlastic

since AV hates miller maybe we could trade him for another prospect that needs a new team ( I mean grigorenko) I would even want to add a pick if we we're to land him

Thats a lot of coin for a #2. Then what do you pay Stepan when his time comes who isn't that far behind if he even is behind.
- Blueshirts4ever

I'm not try to discard anybody's opinion, but Paul Stastny is just a younger version of Brad Richards. He, Stastny that is, is never healthy. He last played an 82 game season when he was a rookie. He never been a ppg player. The 3years prior to this season he hasn't reached 60 points and might not do so again this year. His age and UFA status will dictate a team to severely over pay for him. Hopefully it's not the Rangers.

Thats true, but I look at team cap as an individual thing. Market value will be very high for Stastny, but on the Rangers, although MSL isn't producing right now, its hard to think he won't next year. MSL regularly produces like a $7.5M dollar player who we have signed at a huge discount (in production terms). So I would take the plunge on Stastny if we are addressing a serious need.
- xcheckmajor

I really don't think Stastny addresses our serious need though. He'd be in the same category as Stepan, a really good #2 center. The difference is, we'd be paying him Richards' type money and we'd be in the same predicament we're in now. Honestly, I'm ok with the centers we have now. We may not have a clear 1C, 2C, 3C combo, but they are all arguably #2C's on most teams. The problem with attaining a 1C is that we'd have to overpay a FA or move a bunch of good pieces in a trade, neither of which I'm comfortable doing. Can we be better down the middle? Sure! But I really don't think we're that bad there either.

since AV hates miller maybe we could trade him for another prospect that needs a new team ( I mean grigorenko) I would even want to add a pick if we we're to land him
- webleedblue

I would keep Miller, hope he fixes whatever off ice issues he has. He has shown he can play, he isn't going to cost much at all. I think he could possibly become the center to replace Richards,if they let him play there. Thought he played better with the more responsibility as the center, than the wing.

since AV hates miller maybe we could trade him for another prospect that needs a new team ( I mean grigorenko) I would even want to add a pick if we we're to land him
- webleedblue

I wouldn't give up on Miller just yet. AV just wants to see more from him. He's been good in the few games we've seen him in. Maybe AV is just trying to get him to that next level by throwing a little adversity at him. Make him work harder to be even better.

I would keep Miller, hope he fixes whatever off ice issues he has. He has shown he can play, he isn't going to cost much at all. I think he could possibly become the center to replace Richards,if they let him play there. Thought he played better with the more responsibility as the center, than the wing.
- mdw7413

I wouldn't get rid of Miller, but I would't hesitate including him in a trade this summer that made the team better.

I wouldn't get rid of Miller, but I would't hesitate including him in a trade this summer that made the team better.
- jimbro83

Yeah depends what that trade would be. Would you be willing to do a deal with Miller to get our 1st back from the Cally trade?

I wouldn't get rid of Miller, but I would't hesitate including him in a trade this summer that made the team better.
- jimbro83

He's definitely not untouchable. I can't even pretend to know what may happen with his future. It's going to be real interesting seeing what this team does over the summer. 11 FA's to resign or replace. We could potentially be looking at a very different roster next year.

Yeah depends what that trade would be. Would you be willing to do a deal with Miller to get our 1st back from the Cally trade?
- mdw7413

I wouldn't. With Miller, we know what we have and he's damn close to being a full time NHLer. We're likely drafting in the bottom half of the round. That means we likely get a guy who's a few years away from being ready for the big show and who may or may not develop. Given our track record with 1st rounders, I'd rather keep Miller and move on.

Yeah depends what that trade would be. Would you be willing to do a deal with Miller to get our 1st back from the Cally trade?
- mdw7413

Let's say that you can get a bottom-half of the 1st rounder for Miller. If you could do that, then you just traded for a player that probably won't help the team for a 2-3 years. With Miller, he has gone through the process, and he is closer to becoming an NHLer than anybody they would be able to draft in the bottom of the first round. The Rangers are going to need guys to be able to play as soon as next year.

Rangers are 7-2-1 in their last 10. Of the last 2 losses, one of them was a minute away from being a win in high altitude at the end of a west coast road trip missing our best player. The other one was a loss where we generated a lot of good chances but the other team capitalized and has often given us matchup issues in terms of play style.

To put it in perspective, boston is 7-1-2 in their last 10, pitt is 5-5, philly is 4-4-2, st. Louis is 5-5, colorado is 6-2-2, chicago is 6-4, anaheim is 5-4-1, and san jose is 4-4-2. I guarantee all those stanley cup contenders outside of Boston lost to a team they "should've" beat.

Rangers are 7-2-1 in their last 10. Of the last 2 losses, one of them was a minute away from being a win in high altitude at the end of a west coast road trip missing our best player. The other one was a loss where we generated a lot of good chances but the other team capitalized and has often given us matchup issues in terms of play style.

To put it in perspective, boston is 7-1-2 in their last 10, pitt is 5-5, philly is 4-4-2, st. Louis is 5-5, colorado is 6-2-2, chicago is 6-4, anaheim is 5-4-1, and san jose is 4-4-2. I guarantee all those stanley cup contenders outside of Boston lost to a team they "should've" beat.
- rangerdanger94

well yeah, I really can't believe how negative it's been, well, I can, who am I kidding

well yeah, I really can't believe how negative it's been, well, I can, who am I kidding
- jimbro83

I think the bottom line is this, at the beginning of this ten game stretch, is there is a single person among us that wouldn't have taken 7-2-1? I realize the Ottawa game was frustrating, but if the Rangers beat Lehner to tie the game on one of their various chances, would it really have shown that they were much better prepared for the game. Lehner was good in the game. The Rangers didn't play great, but they certaintly could have won the game as well. I just think the reaction post-game was just way over the top.

But, I do understand what Old School said the next day. Sometimes its hard to separate frustrations with management from the team, but what's done is done, and at this point, we just need to root for the team we have, because it ain't changing, at least until the summer.

well yeah, I really can't believe how negative it's been, well, I can, who am I kidding
- jimbro83

Securing a berth is simply a formality at this point as someone said last week. If the rangers lose a playoff game in the final minute, then I'll freak out. Until then, I just wanna see the team playing well, hank playing focused, players staying healthy, and mcdonagh to return.

I'm not try to discard anybody's opinion, but Paul Stastny is just a younger version of Brad Richards. He, Stastny that is, is never healthy. He last played an 82 game season when he was a rookie. He never been a ppg player. The 3years prior to this season he hasn't reached 60 points and might not do so again this year. His age and UFA status will dictate a team to severely over pay for him. Hopefully it's not the Rangers.
- tomburton99

Thats why I'd stay away from him. When you stop to think about max players are should be far and few but markets drive up value.

Securing a berth is simply a formality at this point as someone said last week. If the rangers lose a playoff game in the final minute, then I'll freak out. Until then, I just wanna see the team playing well, hank playing focused, players staying healthy, and mcdonagh to return.
- rangerdanger94

Could happen as early as tonight. Go Flames

Could happen as early as tonight. Go Flames
- Blueshirts4ever

Need either NJ or Wash to only get 1 point, then we clinch. both need to win out the remainder of their 4 to knock us if we lost the remaining 3

Kreider is working out but not skating. Thats not really all that significant but just bored and wanted to share, also AV said McD is coming along. Those guys can't get back fast enough.

Let's say that you can get a bottom-half of the 1st rounder for Miller. If you could do that, then you just traded for a player that probably won't help the team for a 2-3 years. With Miller, he has gone through the process, and he is closer to becoming an NHLer than anybody they would be able to draft in the bottom of the first round. The Rangers are going to need guys to be able to play as soon as next year.
- Pete V

Yeah I'm in the camp of keeping Miller. But if he doesn't fix whatever it is that's bothering AV, and if it comes to a tipping point, was wondering what people would be willing to accept in a Miller trade. The 2015 draft, isn't that supposed to be one of the deeper drafts in recent years?

Thats why I'd stay away from him. When you stop to think about max players are should be far and few but markets drive up value.
- Blueshirts4ever

There isn't much of a second tier at center ice on this market. So, if they buy out Richards, that obvioiusly leaves a gap, which I think the Rangers will try to fill somehow. I agree with many here that I think Statsny would be a mistake, but I also think that the Rangers aren't going to let Brad Richards go without replacing him somehow (because I don't think they have the necessary confidence in Miller).

The Rangers simply don't have the organizational assets to acquire a high-end center through trade, so the options are limited at that position.

Option 1: Stay with what you have, and keep Richards.

Option 2: Buy-Out Richards, and leave that slot open for Miller or Lindberg.

Option 3: Buy-Out Richards, and throw bags full of cash at Statsny.

Option 4: Buy-Out Richards, and see if you can sign a second tier guy like Grabovski.

Which is the best of these options?

Need either NJ or Wash to only get 1 point, then we clinch. both need to win out the remainder of their 4 to knock us if we lost the remaining 3
- MeltingPlastic

Formality as RangerDanger pointed out earlier. Confident the 2-3 matchup is where they will finish, its just a matter of when the take the train to Philly, either Game 1 or 3.

Need either NJ or Wash to only get 1 point, then we clinch. both need to win out the remainder of their 4 to knock us if we lost the remaining 3
- MeltingPlastic

The Caps can't catch the Rangers. The best they can do is tie them in points, and the Rangers can't lose the tie breaker, because the caps only have like 4 ROWs the entire year.

The Devils are the only team that can catch the Rangers now.