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Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Apr 5 @ 4:47 PM ET
Another game where the goalie bails out his team time and time again only to have the team in front of him NOT RESPOND. Emery deserved a better fate today as does Mason when he is in net. This team just does not play for their goalie.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 5 @ 4:48 PM ET
Buy out Vinny, use the savings to sign 1-2 top-9 LWs who can score goals at ES... seems a lot less risky than pulling the plug on B Schenn to me.
- Tomahawk


Why not do both? Schenn is an average at best player. If Luke didn't get thrown out of town they'd be the perfect maple leads.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 4:48 PM ET
Have been away all day, and didn't get to watch the game. But I see the exact tone of the board is exactly what I thought it would be. Flyers lost a game, and are in a little bit of slump. So the GM needs to go, players need to be bought out, the cap has been mismanaged, and on and on and on. Are they too slow again?
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 5 @ 4:51 PM ET
Have been away all day, and didn't get to watch the game. But I see the exact tone of the board is exactly what I thought it would be. Flyers lost a game, and are in a little bit of slump. So the GM needs to go, players need to be bought out, and on and on and on. Are they too slow again?
- MJL


Nah they're lightning fast out there. Fastest team in the league.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 5 @ 4:53 PM ET
They've chosen the wrong time to slump
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Apr 5 @ 4:54 PM ET
Have been away all day, and didn't get to watch the game. But I see the exact tone of the board is exactly what I thought it would be. Flyers lost a game, and are in a little bit of slump. So the GM needs to go, players need to be bought out, and on and on and on. Are they too slow again?
- MJL



2nd game in a row they were outplayed and out hustled by a team that wanted to win the game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
They've chosen the wrong time to slump
- Giroux_Is_God


I think slumping in the playoffs would be worse. This is just temporary. They will make the playoffs, and we'll see what happens.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
2nd game in a row they were outplayed and out hustled by a team that wanted to win the game.
- Daveflyers36


Yes, they've had two bad 3rd periods in a row. Time to regroup and get it going.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
Have been away all day, and didn't get to watch the game. But I see the exact tone of the board is exactly what I thought it would be. Flyers lost a game, and are in a little bit of slump. So the GM needs to go, players need to be bought out, and on and on and on. Are they too slow again?
- MJL

don't like the negativity here? turn on the post game show and listen to how all the players are happy about the effort and "staying with" the top teams......i really wish the team hated to lose as much as the fans hate it
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 5 @ 4:56 PM ET
don't like the negativity here? turn on the post game show and listen to how all the players are happy about the effort and "staying with" the top teams......i really wish the team hated to lose as much as the fans hate it
- hogweed


Lame. I think ready for a culture change.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 4:57 PM ET
don't like the negativity here? turn on the post game show and listen to how all the players are happy about the effort and "staying with" the top teams......i really wish the team hated to lose as much as the fans hate it
- hogweed


Well I don't think anyone on that team can be happy with the recent 3rd periods. They'll bounce back.
hogweed
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2013

Apr 5 @ 4:58 PM ET
Lame. I think ready for a culture change.
- Flyersgod

or another 7 goal game....they always seem to bounce back from them pretty well
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 5 @ 5:03 PM ET
What is their magic number? 4 after the Washington loss last night? So if Caps lose to Islanders tonight then it's down to 2 correct?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 5 @ 5:05 PM ET
I think slumping in the playoffs would be worse. This is just temporary. They will make the playoffs, and we'll see what happens.
- MJL

Point taken indeed.

Hopefully they round into form here...they only have a handful of gsmes left
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Apr 5 @ 5:06 PM ET
What is their magic number? 4 after the Washington loss last night? So if Caps lose to Islanders tonight then it's down to 2 correct?
- Flyers1218


Oh goodie!! We can lose our way into the playoffs.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 5 @ 5:09 PM ET
Buy out Vinny, use the savings to sign 1-2 top-9 LWs who can score goals at ES... seems a lot less risky than pulling the plug on B Schenn to me.
- Tomahawk


I don't love that because I'm not entirely certain that Vinny can't help, but at the same time, if we truly are married to Schenn on Line 2, then yeah, get him another winger -- preferably one with speed and playmaking ability, and do what you have to do to make that happen

At some point, you do have to stop coddling young players. But at the same time, it is fair to say that getting Schenn a LW who can do,something at ES is a necessity, beause we can't go into next season wondering what in the hell that line is going to do
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 5 @ 5:11 PM ET
I would try the following tomorrow:
Hartnell-G-Simmonds
Raffl-VL-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Downie or Rinaldo
Hall-Schenn-Rinaldo or Rosehill
Timonen-Coburn
AMac-Streit
Gus-Schenn

Thoughts?
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 5 @ 5:12 PM ET
Oh goodie!! We can lose our way into the playoffs.
- Daveflyers36

Who cares how you get in if you win the Cup.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 5 @ 5:13 PM ET
Well I don't think anyone on that team can be happy with the recent 3rd periods. They'll bounce back.
- MJL


You got your wish with Vinny back in the middle....lost the draw clean on the winning goal with six minutes left....I mean clean.....yup I had the same question....why is he taking a d zone face off with the game on the line anyways ?...he's played LW pretty much since Xmas.....
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 5 @ 5:13 PM ET
Have been away all day, and didn't get to watch the game. But I see the exact tone of the board is exactly what I thought it would be. Flyers lost a game, and are in a little bit of slump. So the GM needs to go, players need to be bought out, the cap has been mismanaged, and on and on and on. Are they too slow again?
- MJL


Honestly, I just think the lines could use a little shaking up and I would sit a noticeably hurting Grossmann for Gus.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 5 @ 5:17 PM ET
I don't love that because I'm not entirely certain that Vinny can't help, but at the same time, if we truly are married to Schenn on Line 2, then yeah, get him another winger -- preferably one with speed and playmaking ability, and do what you have to do to make that happen

At some point, you do have to stop coddling young players. But at the same time, it is fair to say that getting Schenn a LW who can do,something at ES is a necessity, beause we can't go into next season wondering what in the hell that line is going to do

- AllInForFlyers


Giroux needs a real top line lw too. Move Hartnell down with Schenn and Simmonds.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Apr 5 @ 5:18 PM ET
I would try the following tomorrow:
Hartnell-G-Simmonds
Raffl-VL-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Downie or Rinaldo
Hall-Schenn-Rinaldo or Rosehill
Timonen-Coburn
AMac-Streit
Gus-Schenn

Thoughts?

- BiggE


I like it.
Daveflyers36
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.20.2011

Apr 5 @ 5:19 PM ET
Who cares how you get in if you win the Cup.
- Flyers1218



Sorry but being a Flyers fan for 25 years and making the playoffs the majority of that time with not winning a cup, just making the playoffs is no longer good enough.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 5 @ 5:20 PM ET
Have been away all day, and didn't get to watch the game. But I see the exact tone of the board is exactly what I thought it would be. Flyers lost a game, and are in a little bit of slump. So the GM needs to go, players need to be bought out, the cap has been mismanaged, and on and on and on. Are they too slow again?
- MJL

Emery, Rinaldo, and Rosehill were the three best players today for the Flyers.

How many games are they going to win when that happens?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Apr 5 @ 5:21 PM ET
I would try the following tomorrow:
Hartnell-G-Simmonds
Raffl-VL-Voracek
Read-Couturier-Downie or Rinaldo
Hall-Schenn-Rinaldo or Rosehill
Timonen-Coburn
AMac-Streit
Gus-Schenn

Thoughts?

- BiggE


They have to do something to get Schenn and Simmonds going at even strength. Buffalo...look.

What you can't do is trick yourself into giving Rinaldo more minutes. 8-10 on the fourth line is great, and he has earned those minutes honestly.

If Downie can go, get him back in. If he can, you give Schenn one last chance to get himself and that second line going, giving him Raffl as the LW.

Vinny can center the fourth line one more time...but for me, tomorrow would be it. Either Schenn does something worthy of a Top 6 forward, or I gotta move him down for a few games...because right now, it isn't working for him
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